Tell Me Why Kelly Olynyk Isn't A Top 10 Center

PierceFan4ever · Post #21 » by **PierceFan4ever** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:29 pm

Olynyk is starting to get underrated these last 2 years. Highly skilled but a bit inconsistent. Never really wanted the Celtics to let go of him but they had to for Hayward and he was going to get paid. He’s a good solid player who makes things easier on offense for teams. Glad to see him balling for Miami.

TheBonzaiEffect · Post #22 » by **TheBonzaiEffect** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:29 pm

Not top 10, but the guy is crazy underrated. Thought about starting a thread of what his ceiling is. He can shoot the 3, he can drive, he can post, solid rebounder, really good creator/passer which most people overlook. He has a number of 5+ assist games. When he's good, he's all-star caliber. For whatever reason, he just seems to lack consistency. I know he's been more consistent with Miami, but still it isn't quite there. He's definitely one of the most skilled players no one talks about.

Pukovnik · Post #23 » by **Pukovnik** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:31 pm

Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:1.Cousins
2.Embiid
3.Jokic
4.Gobert
5.Kat
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He has easily been the Heat's most important player this season. Consider these numbers:

6th among centers in RPM(#3 in offensive RPM)
Has a BPM score of 3(the impact of a star)
The Heat with KO on the floor outscore opponents by 7.4 points per 100 possessions.

Also, in the month of March he's averaging 13.5 PPG 6.4 REB 4.7 AST to 1.6 TO a game.

Yes, and you forgot the FER, DST, BPS, TBF, RST and FET stats, those don't go his way.

Downtown · Post #24 » by **Downtown** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:31 pm

I would have thought Nurkic would be on the list ahead of him. I know I would take him over Olynyk.

PistolPeteJR · Post #25 » by **PistolPeteJR** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:34 pm

Cousins
Embiid
Jokic
Gobert
Kat
Drummond
Whiteside
Adams
Horford
Capela

All guys I would take ahead of Olynyk.

RCM88x · Post #26 » by **RCM88x** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:35 pm

What now.

lakerz12 · Post #27 » by **lakerz12** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:39 pm

PistolPeteJR wrote:Cousins
Embiid
Jokic
Gobert
Kat
Drummond
Whiteside
Adams
Horford
Capela

All guys I would take ahead of Olynyk.

Since Olynyk plays some 4 I think we can include AD, P. Gasol, Aldridge, and K. Love as well.

3Diamantidis · Post #28 » by **3Diamantidis** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:43 pm

I would take Adebayo instead. Let alone whiteside.
He deserves credit though.
The Heat rotation at C is impressive at least.

ISayshowmee · Post #29 » by **ISayshowmee** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:44 pm

He is a center ? I mean Embiid will make a mockery of this guy.

SeattleJazzFan · Post #30 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:46 pm

because he plays 23 minutes a game.

kodo · Post #31 » by **kodo** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:51 pm

Because you're justifying it with on/off, RPM stats which do not measure individual performance. Data is only good as its source, and the source for on/off stats are team based. Trying to tease out influence of the other 4 players on the floor is debatable at very best.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/year/2014/sort/RPM

By RPM, the best players of 2014.

1. Lebron James
5. Dirk Nowitzki
6. Steph Curry
7. Nick Collision
8. Manu Ginobili
9. Tim Duncan

The only thing +/- stats tell you is that an individual was part of a 5 man unit that performed well...not that Nick Collision caused his lineups to perform well. It's correlation vs causation.

Wallace_Wallace · Post #32 » by **Wallace_Wallace** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:55 pm

Wow, I know he's been irrelevant for a while, but Kelly Olynyk over Dwight Howard? :noway:

Andre Drummond, Nurkic, Whiteside, Steven Adams, DeAndre Jordan.....even the PF/C combos like Porzingis, Hortford, KAT, AD, Blake Griffin (I'm sure there are some more).

Bologna Smasher · Post #33 » by **Bologna Smasher** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:08 pm

As everyone else has already said, consistency is an issue for him. Another problem he has, although it's not as bad as his first few years, is foul trouble. He plays with a lot of energy, so he gets into foul trouble quite frequently. Anyway, glad to see he's doing well with the Heat. As I said in another thread a while back, he's one of the guys I wanted to see get thrown into a bigger role to see how much better he can be.

Dominator83 · Post #34 » by **Dominator83** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:15 pm

Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
Dominater wrote:Consistency my friend. Consistency

Too many times throughout his career he'll look like a stud one night, then a scrub the next

He's been very consistent for the Heat.

Recently yes. But hes had his share of stinkers earlier in the season

PhilBlackson · Post #35 » by **PhilBlackson** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:16 pm

He's the 3rd best C on his team.

LibertyPrime · Post #36 » by **LibertyPrime** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:22 pm

He's a victim of his own unforgivable hairstyles.

dorkestra · Post #37 » by **dorkestra** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:30 pm

I would take Vucevic over him as well so with Whiteside and Bam, that makes him the fourth best professional basketball center in the state of Florida.

Still a good player, but top ten no way. Not even top fifteen.

jptremblay · Post #38 » by **jptremblay** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:37 pm

Gary Cokeman wrote:
jptremblay wrote:
Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:
Capela is a system player and DJ is one-dimensional.

Oh yeah, because Olynyk does a lot of things more besides shooting long 2s and 3s...

Gonna And-1 you, so you can hang em' up.

Thanks mate. You will be remembered in my induction at the HOF.

Zasterror · Post #39 » by **Zasterror** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:54 pm

Inconsistency is always a problem with him but he is finally hitting a stride and I feel he will be even better once he undergoes a full Heat off-season training season. He has all of the skills to be an All-Star but he is not athletic or physically imposing which are the things you need to be at that level.

Stillwater · Post #40 » by **Stillwater** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:55 pm

with as many fouls he gets away with it's a wonder he isn't an all star :crazy: