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It’s funny to see Rachel Nichols say this because earlier in the season she was questioning if Booker was even all that good. And now all of a sudden she’s treating him like a star player so she can bash the Suns for more clicks.
If she wasn’t hot, I’d hate her. After the whole Roger Goodell & Floyd Mayweather stuff she pulled, she’s basically become the most popular woman figure for ESPN.
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I have to say im actually surprised with the results from this poll on Bright Side Of The Sun, but totally agree with it!


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Kerrsed wrote:I have to say im actually surprised with the results from this poll on Bright Side Of The Sun, but totally agree with it!
I love Leonard but that'd be huge overpay, especially for a disgruntled player that wants out.
Future star, young player with potential (and you know the Spurs would realize it) and 3 picks? No. Thank. You.
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Well, i said a team would sign Brooks to a nice new guaranteed contract in the offseason, looks like it happened even quicker than i expected!


After scoring 70 points over three games in his 10-day contract, guard MarShon Brooks has agreed to a two-year deal with the Memphis Grizzlies, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
Brooks will sign for the remainder of the season, including a fully guaranteed salary for 2018-19, league sources said. Multiple playoff-contending teams inquired about Brooks over the past day because of the end of his first 10-day contract on Thursday, sources said, but he and the Grizzlies finalized a deal Thursday night. Memphis had part of its midlevel exception remaining to use toward signing Brooks.
Brooks is averaging 23.3 points and 3.7 assists in 25.2 minutes per game in three games for the Grizzlies.
Brooks, 29, has made his return to the NBA after spending the past four seasons starring in the Chinese Basketball Association and in Europe. The 2011 first-round draft pick signed in the Euroleague in 2014 and then played for Jiangsu in China from 2015-18 – revitalizing his professional career and preparation to become an improved player in the NBA.
Brooks was highly touted after a standout collegiate career at Providence and went No. 25 overall to the Nets in 2011 as part of a draft-night trade.
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Kerrsed wrote:I have to say im actually surprised with the results from this poll on Bright Side Of The Sun, but totally agree with it!
Replace Jackson with Warren and I’d do it. None of those draft picks are guaranteed being a top 6-7 player in the league that’s elite on both ends of the court and in his prime.
Only reason I wouldn’t include Jackson is because we haven’t seen if Kawhi’s quad injury is something he can recover completely from or not.
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Kerrsed wrote:I have to say im actually surprised with the results from this poll on Bright Side Of The Sun, but totally agree with it!
I doubt those fans are considering the contract situation. If he’s willing to sign an extension you do whatever it takes to pair Leonard and Booker together for 5-6 years.
fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.
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I am not trading both Jackson and our 2018 1st for Kawhi. I'd imagine they'd want Jackson more since he's shown a ton of potential this year, I'd give him up along with the 2021 Miami Pick. If another team is offering more, than so be it, I'm not going into a bidding war. I especially don't want to negotiate a contract after the fact, for all I know Popavich will do some kind of voodoo magic on Kawhi, and after a trade happens Kawhi signs back with the Spurs.
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One big that comes in my mind who would be really cheap and has potential is Ante Žižić. He is playing(or isn't
) with the Cavs. He doesn't get minutes, but I think he deserves them. He really knows how to move around the basket,he has great rebounding instincts, and he is a great roller(just what Booker and Doncic need
). I think that he will end up as a better version of Nurkić
And I wanna say I'm sorry becouse I'm only bringing up the guys from ex-yugoslavia, but since I live here I spend most time scouting/watching/reading about those guys
P.S. here are some of his highlights


And I wanna say I'm sorry becouse I'm only bringing up the guys from ex-yugoslavia, but since I live here I spend most time scouting/watching/reading about those guys
P.S. here are some of his highlights
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Kerrsed wrote:Anyone else think its stupid to NOW be glad the Irving trade didnt go through because of the injury?
I mean an injury is kinda random, its not like it was already injured and just playing ball caused it to manifest, like if he was here playing it would have happened the same way.
That would be like, Im glad we didnt trade for Porzingis because got injured too!
What a stupid reason to all of a sudden now be all against that trade
No, this is stupid. If you're surprised by Irving's knee injury, then you weren't paying attention to his college or NBA career. I'm stupidfounded by your take here.
I'm guessing you were for this terrible, terrible, silly, awful, terrible idea?
bwgood wrote:Yeah, that is stupid.
On another note it's a bit disconcerting that Gambo and Bordow have both now mentioned Kidd. Not that I think either of them know anything, but it's still bothersome.
You, also, were not worried about Kyrie's injury history? It's not like we were talking about trading for Damian Lillard, here!

The Jackson/1st/Bender/++ for Kawhi idea is also terrible, awful, disgusting. Though I have no similar worry about Kawhi's quad as I did about Kyrie's legs, Jackson is well on his way to being of Kawhi's caliber on his own. An All-NBA talent will likely be available where we pick. And valuing Chriss/Bender at nothing or near-nothing is also ridiculous... Glad to see only roughly a third of the Suns fan base has lost their minds.
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Listening to NBA radio this morning, it sounds like the C's knew this type of surgery was going to eventually happen. I get the feeling he would have had the surgery as soon as the season ended regardless.
Sounds like the surgery isn't the problem. It's that when you take the screws out, the risk is there for a re-fracture until it heals (having 2 holes in your knee now).
Assuming it heals correctly, it doesn't sound like a big deal when it comes to the long term of his career.
That all being said, with how it appears Jackson has turned the corner, I'm still glad we didn't make the trade. We'd be treadmilling right now. Sure, early this season I was starting to regret it, but Jackson has proven he was worth the spot we picked him and that it was best to hang onto him.
Sounds like the surgery isn't the problem. It's that when you take the screws out, the risk is there for a re-fracture until it heals (having 2 holes in your knee now).
Assuming it heals correctly, it doesn't sound like a big deal when it comes to the long term of his career.
That all being said, with how it appears Jackson has turned the corner, I'm still glad we didn't make the trade. We'd be treadmilling right now. Sure, early this season I was starting to regret it, but Jackson has proven he was worth the spot we picked him and that it was best to hang onto him.
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Revived wrote:
It’s funny to see Rachel Nichols say this because earlier in the season she was questioning if Booker was even all that good. And now all of a sudden she’s treating him like a star player so she can bash the Suns for more clicks.
If she wasn’t hot, I’d hate her. After the whole Roger Goodell & Floyd Mayweather stuff she pulled, she’s basically become the most popular woman figure for ESPN.
Never put women ... Pretty women on the pedestal for being pretty. If they annoy you let them know and treat them accordingly. No matter how nice you are to them you ain't scoring...
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ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:Kerrsed wrote:Anyone else think its stupid to NOW be glad the Irving trade didnt go through because of the injury?
I mean an injury is kinda random, its not like it was already injured and just playing ball caused it to manifest, like if he was here playing it would have happened the same way.
That would be like, Im glad we didnt trade for Porzingis because got injured too!
What a stupid reason to all of a sudden now be all against that trade
No, this is stupid. If you're surprised by Irving's knee injury, then you weren't paying attention to his college or NBA career. I'm stupidfounded by your take here.
I'm guessing you were for this terrible, terrible, silly, awful, terrible idea?bwgood wrote:Yeah, that is stupid.
On another note it's a bit disconcerting that Gambo and Bordow have both now mentioned Kidd. Not that I think either of them know anything, but it's still bothersome.
You, also, were not worried about Kyrie's injury history? It's not like we were talking about trading for Damian Lillard, here!
The Jackson/1st/Bender/++ for Kawhi idea is also terrible, awful, disgusting. Though I have no similar worry about Kawhi's quad as I did about Kyrie's legs, Jackson is well on his way to being of Kawhi's caliber on his own. An All-NBA talent will likely be available where we pick. And valuing Chriss/Bender at nothing or near-nothing is also ridiculous... Glad to see only roughly a third of the Suns fan base has lost their minds.
No way I make that trade. JJ cannot be traded.
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1UPZ wrote:Revived wrote:
It’s funny to see Rachel Nichols say this because earlier in the season she was questioning if Booker was even all that good. And now all of a sudden she’s treating him like a star player so she can bash the Suns for more clicks.
If she wasn’t hot, I’d hate her. After the whole Roger Goodell & Floyd Mayweather stuff she pulled, she’s basically become the most popular woman figure for ESPN.
Never put women ... Pretty women on the pedestal for being pretty. If they annoy you let them know and treat them accordingly. No matter how nice you are to them you ain't scoring...
Amin ElhASSan is also on that show sometimes. A Suns hater - which doesn't represent him well to me. I get the dislike of Sarver - we all know he has been horrible. But if other teams see the way he talks about the Suns - they aren't going to hire hi
As for Nichols, Windbag - -- well GSW sucked for a long time, Cleveland sucked for a long time - easy to as bashthe Suns now. Clippers were a joke; Cleveland now its the Suns.
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sunsbum wrote:ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:Kerrsed wrote:Anyone else think its stupid to NOW be glad the Irving trade didnt go through because of the injury?
I mean an injury is kinda random, its not like it was already injured and just playing ball caused it to manifest, like if he was here playing it would have happened the same way.
That would be like, Im glad we didnt trade for Porzingis because got injured too!
What a stupid reason to all of a sudden now be all against that trade
No, this is stupid. If you're surprised by Irving's knee injury, then you weren't paying attention to his college or NBA career. I'm stupidfounded by your take here.
I'm guessing you were for this terrible, terrible, silly, awful, terrible idea?bwgood wrote:Yeah, that is stupid.
On another note it's a bit disconcerting that Gambo and Bordow have both now mentioned Kidd. Not that I think either of them know anything, but it's still bothersome.
You, also, were not worried about Kyrie's injury history? It's not like we were talking about trading for Damian Lillard, here!
The Jackson/1st/Bender/++ for Kawhi idea is also terrible, awful, disgusting. Though I have no similar worry about Kawhi's quad as I did about Kyrie's legs, Jackson is well on his way to being of Kawhi's caliber on his own. An All-NBA talent will likely be available where we pick. And valuing Chriss/Bender at nothing or near-nothing is also ridiculous... Glad to see only roughly a third of the Suns fan base has lost their minds.
No way I make that trade. JJ cannot be traded.
I think I would rather have JJ, Doncic/Ayton and Bender over Kawhi
I am on the Doncic train. In fact, if the Suns get the 1st pick and say the Hawks get the 2nd, would be willing to do a flip with them if they would take Chandler - meaning Suns draft Ayton, Hawks take Doncic and they flip - that is if Atlanta would want Ayton for their rebuild. And my guess, they would.
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ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:Kerrsed wrote:Anyone else think its stupid to NOW be glad the Irving trade didnt go through because of the injury?
I mean an injury is kinda random, its not like it was already injured and just playing ball caused it to manifest, like if he was here playing it would have happened the same way.
That would be like, Im glad we didnt trade for Porzingis because got injured too!
What a stupid reason to all of a sudden now be all against that trade
No, this is stupid. If you're surprised by Irving's knee injury, then you weren't paying attention to his college or NBA career. I'm stupidfounded by your take here.
I'm guessing you were for this terrible, terrible, silly, awful, terrible idea?bwgood wrote:Yeah, that is stupid.
On another note it's a bit disconcerting that Gambo and Bordow have both now mentioned Kidd. Not that I think either of them know anything, but it's still bothersome.
You, also, were not worried about Kyrie's injury history? It's not like we were talking about trading for Damian Lillard, here!
I don't know what you are saying. I didn't want to do the Kyrie trade for a number of reasons. For Gambo to be all for the trade whining about us not doing it all season and now saying he's glad we didn't do it is kind of stupid considering Kyrie was injured all through college and has had various issues. That wasn't even my biggest concern with the trade. I never thought he'd re-sign anyway or be happy to be traded to a team not on his list but didn't want to trade our pick for him anyway. If we did we'd get a little better for a couple of years and then get worse and have no Jackson and just get worse again.
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bwgood77 wrote:ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:Kerrsed wrote:Anyone else think its stupid to NOW be glad the Irving trade didnt go through because of the injury?
I mean an injury is kinda random, its not like it was already injured and just playing ball caused it to manifest, like if he was here playing it would have happened the same way.
That would be like, Im glad we didnt trade for Porzingis because got injured too!
What a stupid reason to all of a sudden now be all against that trade
No, this is stupid. If you're surprised by Irving's knee injury, then you weren't paying attention to his college or NBA career. I'm stupidfounded by your take here.
I'm guessing you were for this terrible, terrible, silly, awful, terrible idea?bwgood wrote:Yeah, that is stupid.
On another note it's a bit disconcerting that Gambo and Bordow have both now mentioned Kidd. Not that I think either of them know anything, but it's still bothersome.
You, also, were not worried about Kyrie's injury history? It's not like we were talking about trading for Damian Lillard, here!
I don't know what you are saying. I didn't want to do the Kyrie trade for a number of reasons. For Gambo to be all for the trade whining about us not doing it all season and now saying he's glad we didn't do it is kind of stupid considering Kyrie was injured all through college and has had various issues. That wasn't even my biggest concern with the trade. I never thought he'd re-sign anyway or be happy to be traded to a team not on his list but didn't want to trade our pick for him anyway. If we did we'd get a little better for a couple of years and then get worse and have no Jackson and just get worse again.
I agree with you. My reaction is against the bolded portion, which seems absurd to me. A Kyrie injury should surprise no one, and that's the point.
I agree that the injury itself doesn't change the calculus, in retrospect, because it isn't surprising. And while the injury was not the biggest part of that calculus (for me, it had more to do with the consideration we would have had to tender than the consideration received), it certainly was a big factor in that calculus. Knowing that the injury concern was not overblown, in hindsight, should be some confirmation that the decision not to do the trade was sensible at the time. But of course even more relevant to the retrospective analysis is how well JJ has played.
I was thinking more along the lines of - look at JJ now, and look at Kyrie now. How foolish would we feel today, given how things have turned out, had we made that move?
That #4/Bledsoe for Kyrie rumor shook me. I hated it. I hate reading stories about how we might have done it. It would have turned me against McDonough.
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ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:bwgood77 wrote:ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
No, this is stupid. If you're surprised by Irving's knee injury, then you weren't paying attention to his college or NBA career. I'm stupidfounded by your take here.
I'm guessing you were for this terrible, terrible, silly, awful, terrible idea?
You, also, were not worried about Kyrie's injury history? It's not like we were talking about trading for Damian Lillard, here!
I don't know what you are saying. I didn't want to do the Kyrie trade for a number of reasons. For Gambo to be all for the trade whining about us not doing it all season and now saying he's glad we didn't do it is kind of stupid considering Kyrie was injured all through college and has had various issues. That wasn't even my biggest concern with the trade. I never thought he'd re-sign anyway or be happy to be traded to a team not on his list but didn't want to trade our pick for him anyway. If we did we'd get a little better for a couple of years and then get worse and have no Jackson and just get worse again.
I agree with you. My reaction is against the bolded portion, which seems absurd to me. A Kyrie injury should surprise no one, and that's the point.
I agree that the injury itself doesn't change the calculus, in retrospect, because it isn't surprising. And while the injury was not the biggest part of that calculus (for me, it had more to do with the consideration we would have had to tender than the consideration received), it certainly was a big factor in that calculus. Knowing that the injury concern was not overblown, in hindsight, should be some confirmation that the decision not to do the trade was sensible at the time. But of course even more relevant to the retrospective analysis is how well JJ has played.
I was thinking more along the lines of - look at JJ now, and look at Kyrie now. How foolish would we feel today, given how things have turned out, had we made that move?
That #4/Bledsoe for Kyrie rumor shook me. I hated it. I hate reading stories about how we might have done it. It would have turned me against McDonough.
what shakes me - hearing Jason Kidd attached to the Phoenix job. Hasn't Hornacek, Hunter and Watson proven that former players with limited experience may not be the best coaches. And Kidd got the Nets, got traded and they fired him - doesn't that tell you all you need to know about the guy. So I hope its Kidd pushing the talk and not the Suns
please Ryan - you tried for Stevens - try again for the college guy Wright. Fizdale . Keep Triano Mike Brown even. Do not hire Jason Kidd.
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I really might do the Jackson/our 2018 first/#15/Bender or Chriss for Kawhi. Of course ONLY if we get an extension as part of the deal.
I really might.... that would be painful, but if we could pair Devin/Kawhi for the next 5 years, you can build around that. I love JJ, but there's tiny chance he ever becomes the all-around player at both ends Kawhi is, and the same would be true for any draft pick.
Kawhi is a legit superstar, one of the best players in basketball, in his prime. The league is all about stars, do what you can to get them.
If the price dropped to Jackson or our 2018 first/another pick/Bender or chriss. I would do that in a SECOND and sleep like a baby, as much as I love Josh Jackson, he's not going to be the reason I don't trade for Kawhi Leonard.
I really might.... that would be painful, but if we could pair Devin/Kawhi for the next 5 years, you can build around that. I love JJ, but there's tiny chance he ever becomes the all-around player at both ends Kawhi is, and the same would be true for any draft pick.
Kawhi is a legit superstar, one of the best players in basketball, in his prime. The league is all about stars, do what you can to get them.
If the price dropped to Jackson or our 2018 first/another pick/Bender or chriss. I would do that in a SECOND and sleep like a baby, as much as I love Josh Jackson, he's not going to be the reason I don't trade for Kawhi Leonard.
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To put it another way; when you potentially get the chance to get a guy like Kawhi, you move mountains to do it and figure the rest out later. Only Booker would be off-limits for me and Kawhi is better than Booker, but at that point you'd just be exchanging stars and paying more money/getting older to do it.