Bucks Keep 2018 Pick

BucksFanSD · Post #101 » by **BucksFanSD** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:13 pm

Keep the pick. Good draft. I would be surprised if we don't take a league consensus 17th overall player this year if we keep it. Also, if we trade it, future picks are typically worth less.

Chapter29 · Post #102 » by **Chapter29** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:27 pm

Don't care really. Either way. I selected keep the pick only because that would make things fun and interesting as a fan.

Isocleas2 · Post #103 » by **Isocleas2** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:01 pm

I don't trust the Bucks to pick an impact player at #16, much rather lose it this year.

emunney · Post #104 » by **emunney** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:24 pm

Chapter29 wrote:Don't care really. Either way. I selected keep the pick only because that would make things fun and interesting as a fan.

Sorry I have to consult the take algorithm

<bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt> NOTHING IS FUN AND FUN IS NOTHING. <bzzzrt>

oh yikes

SupremeHustle · Post #105 » by **SupremeHustle** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:27 pm

Keep the pick and trade it for a 2019 pick.

Plossum · Post #106 » by **Plossum** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:36 pm

I say no. If Giannis goes down next year (touch wood he doesn't) we'll likely be picking top 10. Worst case scenario is the pick falls just outside the protection and we're giving the 4th/5th pick. The pick has to convey at some point so I'd rather it be now. Conveying it at the 17th pick is probably the best outcome for us TBH.

Badgerlander · Post #107 » by **Badgerlander** » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:40 pm

Do I want to keep the pick? yes Do I want our current FO making that pick? nope

SkipperBud · Post #108 » by **SkipperBud** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:22 am

I want the pick. I think Horst is a diamond in the rough potentially. He may need a couple of years before he shines.

tydett · Post #109 » by **tydett** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:32 am

Three outcomes I foresee:

1st: Bucks keep the pick, draft a turd at 17, we lament next year about how we should've given up the pick because we drafted Joe DJ Grayson Allen Wilson Alexander this year instead of somebody better next year.
2nd: Bucks lose the pick, the Suns get a good player at 17, and PP people lose their minds over how if we had just been a little bit better this year, that player should have been ours (bonus points if it's the son of a former European player)
3rd: Bucks keep the pick, draft a stud, we all party like it's 1971.

So basically it'll be either 1 or 2

bizarro · Post #110 » by **bizarro** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:32 am

SkipperBud wrote:I want the pick. I think Horst is a diamond in the rough potentially. He may need a couple of years before he shines.

I think Horst is a lump of coal waiting to become a diamond.

By way of Emuney's GM Maker Machine, I found the following results:

<brzzzzzzzzt bzzzzzzt zapppppp>10,000 years until Horst is Diamond. DO NOT WAIT!!!<Zerbbbbb Zappppppp>

Post #111 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:15 am

SupremeHustle wrote:Keep the pick and trade it for a 2019 pick.

Legit great idea.

Coach Carter · Post #112 » by **Coach Carter** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:29 am

Just a run down on some players we missed out on the last 3 drafts

2017 john collins, allen, anunoby
2016 sabonis, prince
2015 portis, hollis-jefferson, nance jr

Do you trust these same people with another first rounder?

emunney · Post #113 » by **emunney** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:36 am

You guys are talking about firing the GM, not keeping the pick. Separate issue. If we're not smart enough to can a bad GM now, why are we smart enough to hire a good GM later? Why doesn't the fatalism extend to the next GM hire?

RiotPunch · Post #114 » by **RiotPunch** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:37 am

Coach Carter wrote:Just a run down on some players we missed out on the last 3 drafts

2017 john collins, allen, anunoby
2016 sabonis, prince
2015 portis, hollis-jefferson, nance jr

Do you trust these same people with another first rounder?

No, but if anything, this post shows how much value we could potentially luck into at 17.

DrWood · Post #115 » by **DrWood** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:54 am

Seems like the "give up the pick" camp is built upon one or more of the following: 1) don't give our idiot franchise a draft pick to use on the wrong player, or; 2) We'll pick higher if we draft in a later year than now.

Neither of those two seem sound. We aren't changing the GM before the bucks use the pick, regardless of whether it's this year or next or the next. IMO, the team has under-performed this year and I wouldn't bet on a worse record next year.

Am I missing something?

drone3 · Post #116 » by **drone3** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:14 am

Use the pick in a trade

FlagsFlyForever · Post #117 » by **FlagsFlyForever** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:09 am

Lose the pick this year and keep the pick next season. If the Bucks blow it up this offseason with a massive roster overhaul, there's just as good of a chance that the Bucks will be a top Eastern Conference team next season as there is that the Bucks don't make the playoffs.

BroncoBuck · Post #118 » by **BroncoBuck** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:22 am

RiotPunch wrote:
Coach Carter wrote:Just a run down on some players we missed out on the last 3 drafts

2017 john collins, allen, anunoby
2016 sabonis, prince
2015 portis, hollis-jefferson, nance jr

Do you trust these same people with another first rounder?

No, but if anything, this post shows how much value we could potentially luck into at 17.

Robert Williams and Jaylon Brunson are both high floor players at positions of need that should be available at 17.

Ron Swanson · Post #119 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:53 pm

Don't even think that Horst has been a bad GM. Just need a clean slate heading into the new arena.

Perishable517 · Post #120 » by **Perishable517** » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:05 pm

DrWood wrote:Seems like the "give up the pick" camp is built upon one or more of the following: 1) don't give our idiot franchise a draft pick to use on the wrong player, or; 2) We'll pick higher if we draft in a later year than now.

Neither of those two seem sound. We aren't changing the GM before the bucks use the pick, regardless of whether it's this year or next or the next. IMO, the team has under-performed this year and I wouldn't bet on a worse record next year.

Am I missing something?

Yes. Give up the pick this year to open up flexibility sooner in trading first round picks.

Do you want the draft pick this summer?