Replacement thread for Head Coach: updated poll

[magicfan4life88]

I'm really liking Nurse, also like Igor former Magic asisstant

Igor is regarded as an offense guru, just like Nurse.

Ill take igor if we can get this combo

When was Igor a Magic Assistant????

[Nemesis21]

Igor is regarded as an offense guru, just like Nurse.

Ill take igor if we can get this combo

When was Igor a Magic Assistant????

I think after JV was fired. When Borrego was IHC, he brought him on for the final two months of the season, IIRC.

[j-ragg]

I'd be thrilled if we got Igor (dunno how to spell his name) or Nurse. Really highly respected assistants in the league.

At this point if you're them though... you'd have to think they wait it out a little and see if better opportunities arise than us and the Knicks. Even if it meant sticking it out in Utah/Toronto another year until a something better comes up. Maybe I'm just too doomy and gloomy on here.

problem is, good jobs generally dont fire their coaches. They are going to go to a rough spot no matter what team it is

True but there's so much coaching turnover, it'll happen to a young team with good talent. Milwaukee will have a vacancy, Denver has been rumored to make a change, who knows about Gentry in NOLA all their fans seem to hate him, and there are always some wtf firings that no one seems coming. Just saying, I wouldn't blame those higher up assistants if they stayed patient for a decent opportunity.

And a few minutes later, Charlotte fires Clifford. Not that they're in a great position compared to us, but virtually everyone's is probably looked at as better.

[The Effect]

problem is, good jobs generally dont fire their coaches. They are going to go to a rough spot no matter what team it is

True but there's so much coaching turnover, it'll happen to a young team with good talent. Milwaukee will have a vacancy, Denver has been rumored to make a change, who knows about Gentry in NOLA all their fans seem to hate him, and there are always some wtf firings that no one seems coming. Just saying, I wouldn't blame those higher up assistants if they stayed patient for a decent opportunity.

And a few minutes later, Charlotte fires Clifford. Not that they're in a great position compared to us, but virtually everyone's is probably looked at as better.

Which is why we need to call stackhouse and nurse asap, cant wait for more openings
When you factor in Martins, our roster and our reputation, we probably have the least attractive position available

[drsd]

Becky Hammon with a late charge in this poll!

Jonathon Simmons, who left the Spurs last year, for the Orlando Magic, said in 2015 that Hammon is a “players’ coach.” He told me that he meant it literally: “She once was a player, so she understands, she relates.”

LINK

If former-GM Hennigan were still here, this is more plausible out of the San Antonio system. But I would think one of the two Toronto guys is the favorite.



Another O-Sen story on her:

Sentinel writer Josh Robbins wrote about Hammon from Vegas. That story reaffirmed a belief I have always had. I believe women are, in many ways, more qualified to be NBA coaches than men.



Let's face it, being an NBA coach isn't so much about X's and O's and out-scheming the other team. It's about gaining the respect of your players, massaging egos, establishing a culture, instilling discipline. As the late, great Chuck Daly once said, NBA players must "allow you" to coach them.
I don't know the exact percentages, but I do know this: Many NBA players come from single-parent homes where the mother was the sole breadwinner, authority figure, disciplinarian and mentor. From LeBron James on down, many NBA players have been raised with little fatherly guidance and a strong female presence in their lives. They have been programmed to believe that women will look out for their best interests whereas men -- not so much.

So why wouldn't that female admiration and respect convert to coaching success? Why wouldn't NBA players respond better to the demands and commands of a woman than a man? I'm saying they would.

O-Sen LINK

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[Kent]

Becky Hammon with a late charge in this poll!

Jonathon Simmons, who left the Spurs last year, for the Orlando Magic, said in 2015 that Hammon is a “players’ coach.” He told me that he meant it literally: “She once was a player, so she understands, she relates.”

LINK

If former-GM Hennigan were still here, this is more plausible out of the San Antonio system. But I would think one of the two Toronto guys is the favorite.



Another O-Sen story on her:

Sentinel writer Josh Robbins wrote about Hammon from Vegas. That story reaffirmed a belief I have always had. I believe women are, in many ways, more qualified to be NBA coaches than men.



Let's face it, being an NBA coach isn't so much about X's and O's and out-scheming the other team. It's about gaining the respect of your players, massaging egos, establishing a culture, instilling discipline. As the late, great Chuck Daly once said, NBA players must "allow you" to coach them.
I don't know the exact percentages, but I do know this: Many NBA players come from single-parent homes where the mother was the sole breadwinner, authority figure, disciplinarian and mentor. From LeBron James on down, many NBA players have been raised with little fatherly guidance and a strong female presence in their lives. They have been programmed to believe that women will look out for their best interests whereas men -- not so much.

So why wouldn't that female admiration and respect convert to coaching success? Why wouldn't NBA players respond better to the demands and commands of a woman than a man? I'm saying they would.

O-Sen LINK

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Hard to argue with this logic.

[Blue_and_Whte]

I'm still confused with Fizdale love in nba fans circles.
He got famous because of ranting after a game.
He had 43 win season last year on West, that would bring him 11# spot this year.
He was fired after he was benching Gasol for no good reason and after he lost 8 in a row.

Only reason why he is still relevant, for somebody who has 50-51 win record is fact that he is buddy with Lebron and Wade, both "outraged "with him being fired on twitter and that's how story picked up in first place.


Blatt was undercut in Cavs by LeGM to hire his puppet .

Kevin Ollie is interesting name to me.

Darvin Ham,who works for Atlanta,worked with Kobe and Gasol as development coach.


Monty is interesting name, he kind a overachived with Pelicans given how trully terrible roster he had.

Nurse was coaching scrubish British basketball league , i guess D league is where he made name for himself, not gonna lie i don't know much about him.

Ettore Messina is still biggest coaching name outside NBA that never coached.

Personally, from Europe i really like Lithuanian legend Jasikevičius, during 2017 Popovich himself called him to Spurs summer league, but he declined due other duties.

if Ollie cant succeed in College, why do you think he would succeed in the NBA?
Ham worked with the Lakers from 2011-2013. I think Kobe and Gasol were pretty developed by then. not something i would hang my hat on,

They were only “outraged” because Fizdale is black. They aren’t buddies. Apparently Vogel being fired after just two years doesn’t deserve the same “outrage”... wonder why.

I don’t even see why people want the guy personally. I’d take Steve Clifford or Nurse over Fizdale easily.


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[DiplomaticMagic]

They were only “outraged” because Fizdale is black. They aren’t buddies. Apparently Vogel being fired after just two years doesn’t deserve the same “outrage”... wonder why.

[fendilim]

I'm still confused with Fizdale love in nba fans circles.
He got famous because of ranting after a game.
He had 43 win season last year on West, that would bring him 11# spot this year.
He was fired after he was benching Gasol for no good reason and after he lost 8 in a row.

Only reason why he is still relevant, for somebody who has 50-51 win record is fact that he is buddy with Lebron and Wade, both "outraged "with him being fired on twitter and that's how story picked up in first place.


Blatt was undercut in Cavs by LeGM to hire his puppet .

Kevin Ollie is interesting name to me.

Darvin Ham,who works for Atlanta,worked with Kobe and Gasol as development coach.


Monty is interesting name, he kind a overachived with Pelicans given how trully terrible roster he had.

Nurse was coaching scrubish British basketball league , i guess D league is where he made name for himself, not gonna lie i don't know much about him.

Ettore Messina is still biggest coaching name outside NBA that never coached.

Personally, from Europe i really like Lithuanian legend Jasikevičius, during 2017 Popovich himself called him to Spurs summer league, but he declined due other duties.

if Ollie cant succeed in College, why do you think he would succeed in the NBA?
Ham worked with the Lakers from 2011-2013. I think Kobe and Gasol were pretty developed by then. not something i would hang my hat on,

They were only “outraged” because Fizdale is black. They aren’t buddies. Apparently Vogel being fired after just two years doesn’t deserve the same “outrage”... wonder why.

I don’t even see why people want the guy personally. I’d take Steve Clifford or Nurse over Fizdale easily.


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apparently, the problem is Fiz was brought in to establish a change in culture. Unfortunately for him, the Grizzlies, lead by Marc and Conley, has long established the foundation and the identity of the Grizzlies franchise. And he went directly to the head.

Its like a bee (Fizdale) trying to sting a wall.

Also, given the circumstance that the Memphis’ roster is probably worse than ours and they are playing out west, to have a 50-51 record is actually great and respectable. Not saying he is trash or a championship coach by any means, but i think its really decent.

[Jameerthefear]

I'm still confused with Fizdale love in nba fans circles.
He got famous because of ranting after a game.
He had 43 win season last year on West, that would bring him 11# spot this year.
He was fired after he was benching Gasol for no good reason and after he lost 8 in a row.

Only reason why he is still relevant, for somebody who has 50-51 win record is fact that he is buddy with Lebron and Wade, both "outraged "with him being fired on twitter and that's how story picked up in first place.


Blatt was undercut in Cavs by LeGM to hire his puppet .

Kevin Ollie is interesting name to me.

Darvin Ham,who works for Atlanta,worked with Kobe and Gasol as development coach.


Monty is interesting name, he kind a overachived with Pelicans given how trully terrible roster he had.

Nurse was coaching scrubish British basketball league , i guess D league is where he made name for himself, not gonna lie i don't know much about him.

Ettore Messina is still biggest coaching name outside NBA that never coached.

Personally, from Europe i really like Lithuanian legend Jasikevičius, during 2017 Popovich himself called him to Spurs summer league, but he declined due other duties.

if Ollie cant succeed in College, why do you think he would succeed in the NBA?
Ham worked with the Lakers from 2011-2013. I think Kobe and Gasol were pretty developed by then. not something i would hang my hat on,

They were only “outraged” because Fizdale is black. They aren’t buddies. Apparently Vogel being fired after just two years doesn’t deserve the same “outrage”... wonder why.

I don’t even see why people want the guy personally. I’d take Steve Clifford or Nurse over Fizdale easily.


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Fizdale literally coached both Wade and LeBron on the Heat lol

[Optimus_Steel]

Got a feeling former Magic assistant Steve Clifford.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Got a feeling former Magic assistant Steve Clifford.

if so then that would be a Martins hire and Weltman would be lying to all of us saying he is the one making the hire.

[The Effect]

I'm still confused with Fizdale love in nba fans circles.
He got famous because of ranting after a game.
He had 43 win season last year on West, that would bring him 11# spot this year.
He was fired after he was benching Gasol for no good reason and after he lost 8 in a row.

Only reason why he is still relevant, for somebody who has 50-51 win record is fact that he is buddy with Lebron and Wade, both "outraged "with him being fired on twitter and that's how story picked up in first place.


Blatt was undercut in Cavs by LeGM to hire his puppet .

Kevin Ollie is interesting name to me.

Darvin Ham,who works for Atlanta,worked with Kobe and Gasol as development coach.


Monty is interesting name, he kind a overachived with Pelicans given how trully terrible roster he had.

Nurse was coaching scrubish British basketball league , i guess D league is where he made name for himself, not gonna lie i don't know much about him.

Ettore Messina is still biggest coaching name outside NBA that never coached.

Personally, from Europe i really like Lithuanian legend Jasikevičius, during 2017 Popovich himself called him to Spurs summer league, but he declined due other duties.

if Ollie cant succeed in College, why do you think he would succeed in the NBA?
Ham worked with the Lakers from 2011-2013. I think Kobe and Gasol were pretty developed by then. not something i would hang my hat on,

Ollie won 62% of his games in college and........

[tiderulz]

I'm still confused with Fizdale love in nba fans circles.
He got famous because of ranting after a game.
He had 43 win season last year on West, that would bring him 11# spot this year.
He was fired after he was benching Gasol for no good reason and after he lost 8 in a row.

Only reason why he is still relevant, for somebody who has 50-51 win record is fact that he is buddy with Lebron and Wade, both "outraged "with him being fired on twitter and that's how story picked up in first place.


Blatt was undercut in Cavs by LeGM to hire his puppet .

Kevin Ollie is interesting name to me.

Darvin Ham,who works for Atlanta,worked with Kobe and Gasol as development coach.


Monty is interesting name, he kind a overachived with Pelicans given how trully terrible roster he had.

Nurse was coaching scrubish British basketball league , i guess D league is where he made name for himself, not gonna lie i don't know much about him.

Ettore Messina is still biggest coaching name outside NBA that never coached.

Personally, from Europe i really like Lithuanian legend Jasikevičius, during 2017 Popovich himself called him to Spurs summer league, but he declined due other duties.

if Ollie cant succeed in College, why do you think he would succeed in the NBA?
Ham worked with the Lakers from 2011-2013. I think Kobe and Gasol were pretty developed by then. not something i would hang my hat on,

Ollie won 62% of his games in college and........

as i said, won a title first year with Calhoun's players and then got worse every single year since

Swizter won a superbowl, was he a good NFL coach? or just benefitted from what Jimmy Johnson built?

[UCF]

Hammon has shown she deserves a legit shot at the job. If she can work well with our management I would be happy to see her lead our team.

[Nemesis21]

I'm still confused with Fizdale love in nba fans circles.
He got famous because of ranting after a game.
He had 43 win season last year on West, that would bring him 11# spot this year.
He was fired after he was benching Gasol for no good reason and after he lost 8 in a row.

Only reason why he is still relevant, for somebody who has 50-51 win record is fact that he is buddy with Lebron and Wade, both "outraged "with him being fired on twitter and that's how story picked up in first place.


Blatt was undercut in Cavs by LeGM to hire his puppet .

Kevin Ollie is interesting name to me.

Darvin Ham,who works for Atlanta,worked with Kobe and Gasol as development coach.


Monty is interesting name, he kind a overachived with Pelicans given how trully terrible roster he had.

Nurse was coaching scrubish British basketball league , i guess D league is where he made name for himself, not gonna lie i don't know much about him.

Ettore Messina is still biggest coaching name outside NBA that never coached.

Personally, from Europe i really like Lithuanian legend Jasikevičius, during 2017 Popovich himself called him to Spurs summer league, but he declined due other duties.

if Ollie cant succeed in College, why do you think he would succeed in the NBA?
Ham worked with the Lakers from 2011-2013. I think Kobe and Gasol were pretty developed by then. not something i would hang my hat on,

Ollie won 62% of his games in college and........

That may be true, but as tiderulz mentioned, that championship he won at UConn was with Calhoun's guys. The next 4 years after that championship season, once Ollie had his own guys, it didn't go well those 4 years.

[JF5]

I'm interested in Clifford...

[SOUL]

Cliff ain't coming. Basically the opposite of what the guys sound like they want.

[darthmerrick]

Cliff ain't coming. Basically the opposite of what the guys sound like they want.

My coach predictions:
Suns to hire Budenholzer, Clifford to Hawks, Knicks get Fizdale, Grizzlies retain Bickerstaff, Hornets get Monty Williams and Magic hire Nick Nurse with Stackhouse becoming an lead assistant.

[Optimus_Steel]

Why would Budz go to PHX?