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Post#41 » by kingjawn100 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:38 am

Any chance the team that drafts MPJ gives him a 'redshirt year' to get fully healthy? (especially if he slips to a decent team that doesn't need him as much right away). I'm no back expert so i'm not sure if more inactivity would do more harm than good.
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Post#42 » by doordoor123 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:22 am

Players confirmed for combine so far:
-some are alternates, but I think odds are the alternates will participate

PG
DeVonte Graham
Aaron Holiday
Jalen Brunson
De’Anthony Melton
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Trevon Duval

SG
Jaylen Barford
Malik Newman
Tyus Battle
Gary Trent Jr
LaGerald Vick
Josh Okogie
Donte DiVicenzo
Anfernee Simons
Greyson Allen
Jerome Robinson

SF
Rawle Alkins
Brian Bowen
Sviatoslav Mykhuiliuk
Melvin Frazier
Zhaire Smith
Troy Brown Jr
Gary Clark
Devon Hall
Jacob Evans
Mikal Bridges
Kevin Knox
Caleb Martin
Hamidou Diallo

PF
Billy Preston
Kenrich Williams
Moritz Wagner
Chimezie Metu
Marvin Bagley

C
Udoka Azubuike
Mitchell Robinson
Omari Spellman
Wendell Carter Jr
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Post#43 » by baldur » Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:25 am

kingjawn100 wrote:Any chance the team that drafts MPJ gives him a 'redshirt year' to get fully healthy? (especially if he slips to a decent team that doesn't need him as much right away). I'm no back expert so i'm not sure if more inactivity would do more harm than good.


wasnt he fully healthy to play in the ncaa tournament? i would say it would be an overkill. not to mention he can get way better until november anyway.
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Post#44 » by kingjawn100 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:22 am

baldur wrote:
kingjawn100 wrote:Any chance the team that drafts MPJ gives him a 'redshirt year' to get fully healthy? (especially if he slips to a decent team that doesn't need him as much right away). I'm no back expert so i'm not sure if more inactivity would do more harm than good.


wasnt he fully healthy to play in the ncaa tournament? i would say it would be an overkill. not to mention he can get way better until november anyway.


Sac red-shirted Harry Giles after he played a seemingly healthy, full college season (26 games). Seems like an approach more and more teams are willing to take with players not too far removed from a major injury.
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Post#45 » by sipclip » Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:35 am

Giles definitely wasn't healthy in college and his injuries were more serious than Porters.

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Post#46 » by Upperclass » Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:06 am

with his build and lack of NBA moves.. I almost guarantee that MPJ will be redshirted with phantom injuries his first year to save face.. it happened this year with Lonzo too lowkey
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Post#47 » by Chuck Everett » Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:57 am

Porter Jr will probably play in summer league. If he looks terrible there, a team might do it, but his season ended in early March and summer league doesn't begin until July. He will have had a lot of time to get back into true basketball shape.
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Post#48 » by armin-x » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:36 pm

Penava's wingspan is apparantley 7'5. I hope he gets combine invite..
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Post#49 » by Pinkyring » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:47 pm

kingjawn100 wrote:
baldur wrote:
kingjawn100 wrote:Any chance the team that drafts MPJ gives him a 'redshirt year' to get fully healthy? (especially if he slips to a decent team that doesn't need him as much right away). I'm no back expert so i'm not sure if more inactivity would do more harm than good.


wasnt he fully healthy to play in the ncaa tournament? i would say it would be an overkill. not to mention he can get way better until november anyway.


Sac red-shirted Harry Giles after he played a seemingly healthy, full college season (26 games). Seems like an approach more and more teams are willing to take with players not too far removed from a major injury.

If we(dallas) draft mpj I'd be ok with him sitting
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Post#50 » by shakes0 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:53 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:So Ive been going back and watching a lot video of these guys and unless something drastic changes, this will probably be my final big board for this draft.

1. Bagley
2. Bamba
3. Ayton
4. MPJ
5. Carter
6. JJJ
7. Mikal
8. Robert Williams
9. Knox
10. Trevon Duval

I expect my top 10 is going to be drastically different then everyone else's. I'll break down a few things that I think people will have the most questions on. Bagley has been my #1 all year and the combo of size/athleticism/motor/skill foundation is just too hard for me to pass up. Bamba and Ayton are a toss up for me but Im settling on Bamba as my #2. Definitely some recency bias with how Gobert has looked in these playoffs, but ya Bamba over Ayton. Ayton has the highest ceiling in my opinion that motor is still worrisome to me.

Carter over JJJ was very close as well. But the more I watched JJJ the more I began to question his functional athleticism. Offensively I think hes going to never be a guy that creates his own shot and I think hes going to be a really good shot blocker, but not a great overall defender. With that said still high on him at 6, so its not like I think hes going to be junk.

My last 3 probably are a surprise for how high they are. I got them this high because of their potential. I flat out love Williams size, athleticism and ability to rebound and defend. Dont think hes ever going to be all that much offensively, but I think he can be that ultimate glue guy. Knox I think he has very functional athleticism, I like the form on his jumper and I think he has the chance to be more than just a 3&D guy, with a great chance to at minimum becoming a 3&D guy. Duval is probably my biggest reach, I thought he was misused at Duke. He is phenomenal running the PnR and rarely got the chance to run it at Duke. His size/handle/athleticism is all top notch, I also think hes going to be a stud defender as well. I dont think he ever becomes a knock down shooter, but Ive been following his progression as a shooter for a few years now and I really love his progression. The 2nd half of the season he shot 37% from 3 on 3 attempts a game. I think in a few years that jumper will be at least serviceable and with the space and pace of the NBA, I think its really going to open up his game.

Edit: forgot to mention this is just the guys from college


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Post#51 » by doordoor123 » Tue May 1, 2018 1:22 am

Players invited to combine so far:
(“-“ means they aren’t showing up because they player is a high pick)

PG
DeVonte Graham
Aaron Holiday
Jalen Brunson
De’Anthony Melton
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Trevon Duval
Trae Young -
Elie Okobo
Landry Shamet

SG
Jaylen Barford
Malik Newman
Tyus Battle
Gary Trent Jr
LaGerald Vick
Josh Okogie
Donte DiVicenzo
Anfernee Simons
Grayson Allen
Jerome Robinson

SF
Rawle Alkins
Brian Bowen
Sviatoslav Mykhuiliuk
Melvin Frazier
Zhaire Smith
Troy Brown Jr
Gary Clark
Devon Hall
Jacob Evans
Mikal Bridges
Kevin Knox
Caleb Martin
Hamidou Diallo
Michael Porter Jr
Luka Doncic-

PF
Billy Preston
Kenrich Williams
Moritz Wagner
Chimezie Metu
Marvin Bagley-
Wenyen Gabriel
Jarred Vanderbilt
PJ Washington

C
Udoka Azubuike
Mitchell Robinson
Omari Spellman
Wendell Carter Jr
Jontay Porter
Jaren Jackson-
DeAndre Ayton-
Sagaba Konate



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Post#52 » by sipclip » Tue May 1, 2018 1:57 am

Upperclass wrote:with his build and lack of NBA moves.. I almost guarantee that MPJ will be redshirted with phantom injuries his first year to save face.. it happened this year with Lonzo too lowkey


I don't understand this post at all. Porter is ripped and already has plenty of nba moves.
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Post#53 » by doordoor123 » Tue May 1, 2018 9:41 pm

This may be all of the combine invites minus maybe 3 to 5 more including Robert Williams.

PG
DeVonte Graham
Aaron Holiday
Jalen Brunson
De’Anthony Melton
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Trevon Duval
Trae Young -
Elie Okobo
Landry Shamet
Jevon Carter
Collin Sexton

SG
Jaylen Barford
Malik Newman
Tyus Battle
Gary Trent Jr
LaGerald Vick
Josh Okogie
Donte DiVicenzo
Anfernee Simons
Greyson Allen
Jerome Robinson
Shake Milton
Jalen Hudson
Bruce Brown

SF
Rawle Alkins
Brian Bowen
Sviatoslav Mykhuiliuk
Melvin Frazier
Zhaire Smith
Troy Brown Jr
Gary Clark
Devon Hall
Jacob Evans
Mikal Bridges
Kevin Knox
Caleb Martin
Hamidou Diallo
Michael Porter Jr
Luka Doncic-
Charles Matthews
Chandler Hutchison
Kris Wilkes
George King

PF
Billy Preston
Kenrich Williams
Moritz Wagner
Chimezie Metu
Marvin Bagley-
Wenyen Gabriel
Jarred Vanderbilt
PJ Washington
Alize Johnson
Keita Bates-Diop

C
Udoka Azubuike
Mitchell Robinson
Omari Spellman
Wendell Carter Jr
Jontay Porter
Jaren Jackson-
DeAndre Ayton-
Sagaba Konate
Brandon McCoy
Austin Wiley


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Post#54 » by doordoor123 » Thu May 3, 2018 2:12 am

I think this is the final combine list

PG
DeVonte Graham
Aaron Holiday
Jalen Brunson
De’Anthony Melton
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Trevon Duval
Trae Young -
Elie Okobo
Landry Shamet
Jevon Carter
Collin Sexton
Tony Carr
Jaylen Hands
George Hill (Colorado)
Jaylen Adams (alternate)

SG
Jaylen Barford
Malik Newman
Tyus Battle
Gary Trent Jr
LaGerald Vick
Josh Okogie
Donte DiVicenzo
Anfernee Simons
Greyson Allen
Jerome Robinson
Shake Milton
Jalen Hudson
Bruce Brown
Lonnie Walker
Khyri Thomas

SF
Rawle Alkins
Brian Bowen
Sviatoslav Mykhuiliuk
Melvin Frazier
Zhaire Smith
Troy Brown Jr
Gary Clark
Devon Hall
Jacob Evans
Mikal Bridges-
Kevin Knox
Caleb Martin
Hamidou Diallo
Michael Porter Jr
Luka Doncic-
Charles Matthews
Chandler Hutchison
Kris Wilkes
George King
Miles Bridges
Dzanan Musa

PF
Billy Preston
Kenrich Williams
Moritz Wagner
Chimezie Metu
Marvin Bagley-
Wenyen Gabriel
Jarred Vanderbilt
PJ Washington
Alize Johnson
Keita Bates-Diop
Kevin Hervey
Yante Maten


C
Udoka Azubuike
Mitchell Robinson
Omari Spellman
Wendell Carter Jr
Jontay Porter
Jaren Jackson-
DeAndre Ayton-
Sagaba Konate
Brandon McCoy
Austin Wiley
Robert Williams
Goga Bitadze


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Post#55 » by Donka_fan » Sat May 5, 2018 7:16 pm

It's ridiculous you have Doncic listed at SF. The guy plays PG for Real Madrid. So until someone changes his position, he should be listed at PG.
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Post#56 » by Duke4life831 » Sat May 5, 2018 7:53 pm

Ayton and Robert Williams are skipping the combine. Bagley says hes going, but Im curious if hes going to do the workouts and measurements, or just go there for the interviews. Said it last year and I'll say it again this year, I know it means very little, but I love the idea of a guy going to the combine and doing everything and trying to win that #1 spot. Not saying guys that skip it get a negative view by me, just the top guys that go and workout get a positive point for me.
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Post#57 » by Duke4life831 » Sat May 5, 2018 7:54 pm

shakes0 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:So Ive been going back and watching a lot video of these guys and unless something drastic changes, this will probably be my final big board for this draft.

1. Bagley
2. Bamba
3. Ayton
4. MPJ
5. Carter
6. JJJ
7. Mikal
8. Robert Williams
9. Knox
10. Trevon Duval

I expect my top 10 is going to be drastically different then everyone else's. I'll break down a few things that I think people will have the most questions on. Bagley has been my #1 all year and the combo of size/athleticism/motor/skill foundation is just too hard for me to pass up. Bamba and Ayton are a toss up for me but Im settling on Bamba as my #2. Definitely some recency bias with how Gobert has looked in these playoffs, but ya Bamba over Ayton. Ayton has the highest ceiling in my opinion that motor is still worrisome to me.

Carter over JJJ was very close as well. But the more I watched JJJ the more I began to question his functional athleticism. Offensively I think hes going to never be a guy that creates his own shot and I think hes going to be a really good shot blocker, but not a great overall defender. With that said still high on him at 6, so its not like I think hes going to be junk.

My last 3 probably are a surprise for how high they are. I got them this high because of their potential. I flat out love Williams size, athleticism and ability to rebound and defend. Dont think hes ever going to be all that much offensively, but I think he can be that ultimate glue guy. Knox I think he has very functional athleticism, I like the form on his jumper and I think he has the chance to be more than just a 3&D guy, with a great chance to at minimum becoming a 3&D guy. Duval is probably my biggest reach, I thought he was misused at Duke. He is phenomenal running the PnR and rarely got the chance to run it at Duke. His size/handle/athleticism is all top notch, I also think hes going to be a stud defender as well. I dont think he ever becomes a knock down shooter, but Ive been following his progression as a shooter for a few years now and I really love his progression. The 2nd half of the season he shot 37% from 3 on 3 attempts a game. I think in a few years that jumper will be at least serviceable and with the space and pace of the NBA, I think its really going to open up his game.

Edit: forgot to mention this is just the guys from college


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Post#58 » by GimmeDat » Sat May 5, 2018 11:00 pm

Donka_fan wrote:It's ridiculous you have Doncic listed at SF. The guy plays PG for Real Madrid. So until someone changes his position, he should be listed at PG.


Running the offense or not, he's going to be defending NBA wings, not NBA PG's.
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Post#59 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sun May 6, 2018 12:11 am

Al Horford is setting a good example for Wendell Carter.
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Post#60 » by RipCity71252 » Sun May 6, 2018 3:02 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Al Horford is setting a good example for Wendell Carter.

Wendell has some skill advantages at the same age but Al was a more versatile athlete, particularly in space and off one foot.

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