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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#321 » by aHealthy3 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:46 pm

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aHealthy3 wrote:Random but does anyone remember the Embiid montage video with this song: ?

It was either on here or floating around Twitter somewhere...looked all over and can't find it! Thanks

I remember it on twitter around all star voting this year.

Yeah, I should've said does anyone have the link!
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Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#322 » by Ericb5 » Thu May 3, 2018 12:00 am

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eagereyez wrote:Embiid will likely be wearing the goggles and mask for the remainder of the playoffs. This is why I thought it would be silly to hold him out even after he was ready. He needs to learn how to play with that getup. That means allowing him to make mistakes and learn from them. He'll figure it out eventually.

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I believe I saw he wears the goggles to protect a detached retina. I saw online they take about 4 weeks to fully heal. So maybe he could lose the goggles at some point.....the mask has traditionally been worn for the remainder of the season by previous players.


He said 6 weeks today. That would be the conference finals/potentially a game 7 in this series. Who knows though.


Does that mean 6 weeks from surgery, or six weeks from when he returned to the games with the mask?

I wish that this was clarified.


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Embiid is getting off too easy 

Post#323 » by brannigan73 » Sun May 6, 2018 7:31 pm

All I hear is people killing Ben Simmons (rightly in this case) the coach (rightly in this case) and the roleplayers (exaggrerated as they are roleplayers you cant count on all of them to come through and its stars that win games) but Embiid has not been close to dominant in this series. Boston is an elite defense the Sixers are just not going to get great looks at threes they need to be able to grind it out in the half court and that means a healthy dose of Embiid. He has responded by shooting 37% in games 2 and 3 many of them bad mid range j's and 3's. He is also whining about the foul calls again. If he did what he did in game 1 in either of those two other games we would have a win and still be alive in this series. I love Joel and his confidence but I hope he takes this as a learning experience he still has a ways to go as a player. He is not at the level of a guy like Anthony Davis even though he would tell you he is. To be the man you have to come through in just about every game. 1 game out of 3 is not going to cut it. You cant have Aaron Baynes throwing you off your game of all people.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#324 » by Kobblehead » Sun May 6, 2018 7:40 pm

Embiid definitely needs to do away with the 3 point shot.

He shot 30% all year and now 30% in the postseason. Just because you can make a three once in a while doesn't mean you should shoot them regularly. Ditch the shot and establish deep post positioning more frequently, instead.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#325 » by Mik317 » Sun May 6, 2018 8:15 pm

Its difficult to truly evaluate his performance due to the mask and the lost weight from sitting out. He also is doing too much as our offense stalls. Him parking at the 3 point line is all because of spacing for Ben and to set screens for our shooters (mainly JJ).
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#326 » by FireMorey » Sun May 6, 2018 8:29 pm

Embiid is and will be better than the 30% indicates from downtown. This season will most assuredly prove to be an anomaly. I think he will be a career 37%er or so. With that said, yes, he needs to be in the post more. And for once in his life, he should actually have an entire summer to practice. Last summer he missed recovering from knee surgery. He needs to spend the entire summer working on handling the post, double teams, etc.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#327 » by typhaon1212 » Sun May 6, 2018 8:34 pm

This isn't a knock on Embiid's future - but his offense hasn't been terribly productive in this series.

Through 3 games... while he certainly has more impressive dunks... 73 points on 69 shots with 8 turnovers... isn't great offensive production.

By comparison... Horford has 52 points on 33 shots and 5 turnovers... while even Baynes has 18 points on 17 shots and 2 turnovers.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#328 » by Bum Adebayo » Sun May 6, 2018 8:41 pm

Embiid deserves some criticism too, he is not a top 10 player yet, he is too unrefined, but his weaknesses seem more easy to fix than Simmons shot, so there is that. We need to see what a healthy offseason for the first time can do to his game and his body.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#329 » by Mik317 » Sun May 6, 2018 9:16 pm

he probably will have surgery on his hand so I doubt he has anymore time for practicing this offseason either lol
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#330 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sun May 6, 2018 9:38 pm

My main quibble with Embiid has been his decision making. He makes mistakes similar to Wide Receivers in football where they start to run or make a football move before actually securing the ball. Embiid is guilty of the basketball version of that at times. I'd like to see some added control to his game. Less recklessness, less threes, more mid range, more low post dominance, smarter decisions on defense. He's right there, and as long as he can stay healthy, he'll figure it out.

Speaking of health and physicality, I'm not fitness expert, but he seems like he could really benefit from some added core training, and lower leg workouts. Better core, stronger legs I think will lead to better balance for him. He's got balance issues that need to be worked out. Despite having incredible footwork, his landings tend to scare years off my life and cause me to sprout gray hair. Like I said (correct me if i'm wrong) but I definitely think he's got some room to improve from a physical and cardio standpoint. I really hope he takes this offseason seriously and hammers down on building the body to be strong. I have no doubt that JoJo is a worker, and the only thing holding Joel Embiid back is Joel Embiid. We all want Hakeem Olajuwon 2.0, but that is ultimately up to him.
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Post#331 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sun May 6, 2018 9:41 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Embiid definitely needs to do away with the 3 point shot.

He shot 30% all year and now 30% in the postseason. Just because you can make a three once in a while doesn't mean you should shoot them regularly. Ditch the shot and establish deep post positioning more frequently, instead.


Thank you! That is what i've been screaming for as well! Remember when we had Barkley and he started shooting threes? It's basically the same thing. Barkley was basically dead last in the league in terms of volume three point shooters back in the day. His threes were atrocious, but at times.....they did go in. I get the same feeling watching Embiid shoot threes. He's our star player, some of them are going to go in, some are going to go in when you absolutely need them to, but they don't need to be a staple to his game. He needs to use that shot sparingly. It seems as though whenever he misses one, it leads to a fastbreak for the other team.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#332 » by Kobblehead » Sun May 6, 2018 9:43 pm

Everyone keeps filling his head with this "unicorn" nonsense. He's not as skilled as Towns or Porzingis. He shouldn't be shooting threes.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#333 » by XDevilBoiX » Sun May 6, 2018 9:46 pm

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Kobblehead wrote:Embiid definitely needs to do away with the 3 point shot.

He shot 30% all year and now 30% in the postseason. Just because you can make a three once in a while doesn't mean you should shoot them regularly. Ditch the shot and establish deep post positioning more frequently, instead.


Thank you! That is what i've been screaming for as well! Remember when we had Barkley and he started shooting threes? It's basically the same thing. Barkley was basically dead last in the league in terms of volume three point shooters back in the day. His threes were atrocious, but at times.....they did go in. I get the same feeling watching Embiid shoot threes. He's our star player, some of them are going to go in, some are going to go in when you absolutely need them to, but they don't need to be a staple to his game. He needs to use that shot sparingly. It seems as though whenever he misses one, it leads to a fastbreak for the other team.

But that is Brett’s offense tho, everyone has the green light to shoot even if you are shooting 0/8, you need to shoot yourself out of the slump. We rarely see Brett call up a post play for Embiid or any play for that matter.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#334 » by Gordon » Sun May 6, 2018 9:48 pm

He needs to trust his teammates to make shots, his reluctance to pass out of double teams is disturbing.

Also, i thought he lost the game for us last night when he forced Bretts hand and checked himself back in, despite running on empty and being liability on both ends of the floor. That is the part of learing experience i guess.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#335 » by Negrodamus » Sun May 6, 2018 9:55 pm

He'd probably do good in a PnR setting. I know we are very averse to running that, but we have the ideal pieces to do so.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#336 » by Bum Adebayo » Sun May 6, 2018 10:57 pm

Coach Brown said Embiid needs to shoot more threes, so it seems our genius coach doesn't agree with us.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#337 » by eyeatoma » Mon May 7, 2018 2:29 am

I brought this up in a thread about 2-3 months ago. I said that Brown has wanted Embiid shooting more threes, and I 100% believe this is because of Simmons inability to shoot. It's the only way to open up the offense. As I've said before, I guarantee you, Embiid's inefficiency has a lot to do with Simmons. We don't see PnR and Embiid has to really work hard for his offense, unlike other big men. I do agree that he needs to work on his conditioning. But I think the idea about 3's is coming from Brett and not Jojo. I also think we will see a different Jojo if Ben learns how to shoot and can extend to 3 point range.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#338 » by 76ciology » Mon May 7, 2018 2:31 am

Sir Jojo..

Until you learn how to finish with your left (because Baynes and Horford knows you just fake going left and always finish right) and shoot mid range at 45% like Dirk, I’d rather you play PnR and just go 1on1 after we create mismatch.

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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#339 » by Fencer reregistered » Mon May 7, 2018 9:40 am

Gordon wrote:He needs to trust his teammates to make shots, his reluctance to pass out of double teams is disturbing.



This. Post scorers who don't freely kick the ball back out are obsolete.
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Post#340 » by kuclas » Mon May 7, 2018 1:05 pm

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Gordon wrote:He needs to trust his teammates to make shots, his reluctance to pass out of double teams is disturbing.



This. Post scorers who don't freely kick the ball back out are obsolete.


Joel is expending too much energy on both offense and defense. He may better off just using the occasional max energy on offense once in a while and be a decoy 80% of the time. Save his energy for end of the game. Focus on offensive rebounds and defensive.

U see the way Al Horford is conserving energy. He’s roaming around on defense. And on offense. Horford rarely post-up if it’s embiid defending him. He will post up when it’s smaller defender.

Joel just needs to pick and choose his spots when to attack on offense. Let’s face it. Baynes and other 7 foot defenders are there to wear down embiid and collect fouls. Embiid is not playing smart when his bully ball tactics aren’t working. He’s just wasting energy.

Be smart. Go to the low post. Make one move. If it’s not there. Kick it out. Conserve your energy Joel. Joel is too tired by the time Horford is on him. Cause he’s wasted so much energy on bully ball tactics with baynes.

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