Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric

[Chris76]

Teams game plan on JJ but also guards Saric.
Teams attack Jj and Saric on D.

Horford was a bad matchup for Dario and others. Curious to see if he does well against Kevin Love and the Cavs.
Hopefully, Dario can learn from this experience and improve his defense.

Dario's improved shooting has been impressive. His work ethic is very underrated and should help to win games in the future.

[bobbeaver]

The Celtics gameplan involved denying Redick getting the ball and completely smothering him when he did. They welcomed the Saric postups. Saying that Saric shot better isn't a great argument because the degree of difficulty of their attempts wasn't comparable.

Ben was definitely garbage though.

Well im just saying what Brad said. Both about him as a player and about his D schemes. And well it says something that Saric still was producing in volume last 2 games at 50% clip after he adapted (granted 2 games too late). Redick got smothered and couldnt produce at all. It does say something atleast about Sarices versatility. Although he got also same 3s at a high rate aswell while being smothered aswell.
And sure degree of attempts was different. But players made them different because of the Offensive tools they can use in their arsenal.
Im not saying he s perfect. Noone on Sixers was. But in that settings sixers were in he was the second fiddle.

Redick getting smothered was mostly because of how ineffective Simmons was. The effectiveness of Redick, Covington, and Belinelli are going to be linked to the effectiveness of Simmons. They need him to give them space and to get them quality shots. Saric is slightly less dependent than they are because he can get his own shots on occasion, though he obviously also suffers from Ben's struggles. Hopefully in a year or two, Simmons will either have enough of a shot to be threatening or have figured out ways to be more effective without a shot.

Yeah i agree about all you said. Although TJ did a good job n helped out Saric and others with getting the ball in ok positions. I think Simmons developing a shot is key. If he does he can draw his defender to open space, or even draw away other ppls defenders if he drives due to open space.

[bobbeaver]

Teams game plan to take out Redick. Teams don't even guard Saric.

Teams dont guard a 40% 3 pt shooter, guy with 16 pts average and 4 assists pg. Right. I guess other teams are masochists and like loosing.
Just cause they wanted to neutralize one weapon doesnt mean they let others be, not in Cs playbook or Miamis. I guess they love it when he drops 25 and 27 points on them at a 50% .
Im sure you think since Saric is bottom of the barrel player he was worse than Covington?

Offensively Covington is worse than Saric. Defensively, Saric isn't on the same planet as Covington (or Simmons).

Cov is a very good team defender. 1 v 1 he is not that great. Go look at games again and you ll see infact Cov getting blown past or scored on on a regular basis. Saric had plenty of steals and stops. Horford is a bad matchup for any sixer, Saric did a decent job, better than cov on Tatum. This is atleast in PO settings.
And if we are to compare like that Cov and Saric. There is a far bigger gap between their offensive skills than defensive skills.

[LloydFree]

Teams dont guard a 40% 3 pt shooter, guy with 16 pts average and 4 assists pg. Right. I guess other teams are masochists and like loosing.
Just cause they wanted to neutralize one weapon doesnt mean they let others be, not in Cs playbook or Miamis. I guess they love it when he drops 25 and 27 points on them at a 50% .
Im sure you think since Saric is bottom of the barrel player he was worse than Covington?

Offensively Covington is worse than Saric. Defensively, Saric isn't on the same planet as Covington (or Simmons).

Cov is a very good team defender. 1 v 1 he is not that great. Go look at games again and you ll see infact Cov getting blown past or scored on on a regular basis. Saric had plenty of steals and stops. Horford is a bad matchup for any sixer, Saric did a decent job, better than cov on Tatum. This is atleast in PO settings.
And if we are to compare like that Cov and Saric. There is a far bigger gap between their offensive skills than defensive skills.

Just staaaap. Covington is 6'9 and guards the opposing teams' best player and the opposing teams PG in the guts of the game. Saric is a focal point of the opposing teams' attack, every single game. Saric being anywhere close to Covington defensively, is absurd.

[bobbeaver]

Offensively Covington is worse than Saric. Defensively, Saric isn't on the same planet as Covington (or Simmons).

Cov is a very good team defender. 1 v 1 he is not that great. Go look at games again and you ll see infact Cov getting blown past or scored on on a regular basis. Saric had plenty of steals and stops. Horford is a bad matchup for any sixer, Saric did a decent job, better than cov on Tatum. This is atleast in PO settings.
And if we are to compare like that Cov and Saric. There is a far bigger gap between their offensive skills than defensive skills.

Just staaaap. Covington is 6'9 and guards the opposing teams' best player and the opposing teams PG in the guts of the game. Saric is a focal point of the opposing teams' attack, every single game. Saric being anywhere close to Covington defensively, is absurd.

Oh Covington guarded Horford? I didnt know that. Because that is their best player. Oh right he guarded the rookie that put 20 pts on him each game .
Not to mention how many boneheaded decisions Cov did in transition or passing during halfcourt offense. And you still think overall he is a better player than Saric. You got jokes man.

[Black Mage]

Offensively Covington is worse than Saric. Defensively, Saric isn't on the same planet as Covington (or Simmons).

Cov is a very good team defender. 1 v 1 he is not that great. Go look at games again and you ll see infact Cov getting blown past or scored on on a regular basis. Saric had plenty of steals and stops. Horford is a bad matchup for any sixer, Saric did a decent job, better than cov on Tatum. This is atleast in PO settings.
And if we are to compare like that Cov and Saric. There is a far bigger gap between their offensive skills than defensive skills.

Just staaaap. Covington is 6'9 and guards the opposing teams' best player and the opposing teams PG in the guts of the game. Saric is a focal point of the opposing teams' attack, every single game. Saric being anywhere close to Covington defensively, is absurd.

His point that the gap in offensive skills outweighs the gap defensively. I agree with that. Covie can be a complete zero or worse a negative on offense. I will take Saric and his offensive skills, BBIQ, intangibles and defensive limitations over Covie 100/100 times.

[Arsenal]

No Saric is not better than Covington overall. At least not yet. Covington's advantage on D is superior to Saric's advantage on O.

However Saric was most definitely better than Covington against the Celtics due to matchups and the Celtics defensive scheme.

Same with TJ and Ben. In no universe is TJ better than Ben overall. However TJ was absolutely WAY better than Ben vs. the Celtics.

[bobbeaver]

Teams game plan on JJ but also guards Saric.
Teams attack Jj and Saric on D.

Horford was a bad matchup for Dario and others. Curious to see if he does well against Kevin Love and the Cavs.
Hopefully, Dario can learn from this experience and improve his defense.

Dario's improved shooting has been impressive. His work ethic is very underrated and should help to win games in the future.

Well so far Horford is killing the Cavs. 20/4/6 . So Sarics D doesnt seam so bad. Atleast compared to this game. And Morris went 21 /10. And he was offesive trash when Saric was guarding him.

[septahex]

Saric shot 50.1/39.3/86 scoring 14.6pts on 11.4FGA with 2 OREBs per game and he's still on his rookie contract improving year on year. Very underrated player.

[Stribor]

In croatia there was just a premiere of documentary about saric family "uvik isto" - always the same.

https://m.sibenik.in/sibenik/sarici-uvik-isto-publika-se-40-minuta-smijala-uz-dokumentarac-o-najkosarkaskijoj-sibenskoj-obitelji/96280.html

They show dario unloading trucks on vacation. Loud table family arguments and family playing 2 vs 2 basketball (they are all ot they eere profesional basketball plyers- sister has the best shoot). Supposedly during 40 mins of movie the audience was constantly laughing without rest. Title says the philosophy of the family that money or succes should never change you

Looking forward to see it!

[thenbaman]

Saric is way better than covington right now,dose anybody watch the games.

[the_process]

I’m kinda dreading what Dario’s 2nd contract is going to look like.

[LloydFree]

I’m kinda dreading what Dario’s 2nd contract is going to look like.

Oh, it's going to be an Albatross. Dario's value is tied up in being on a Rookie contract.

The only hope is that whoever the new GM becomes, channels his inner Danny Ainge, and forces Saric to go get a contract in Restricted Free agency before offering him anything. That should keep his salary reasonable. If they don't foolishly try to extend him early, he probably gets a Mason Plumlee or Jusuf Nurkic type deal. 13 million per, is too much for him, but it isn't crippling.

[Wilfried]

Oh, it's going to be an Albatross. Dario's value is tied up in being on a Rookie contract.

The only hope is that whoever the new GM becomes, channels his inner Danny Ainge, and forces Saric to go get a contract in Restricted Free agency before offering him anything. That should keep his salary reasonable. If they don't foolishly try to extend him early, he probably gets a Mason Plumlee or Jusuf Nurkic type deal. 13 million per, is too much for him, but it isn't crippling.

13 million is not an albatross.

I think it's more going to be 80 million for 5 years. A bit too much for us to be good, but he's worth it if he keeps improving like he did last season's.

He's probably very valued around the league too I guess.

[kingofthecourt67]

13 mil for Dario is a steal. I'd be ecstatic if we could keep him for that.

[sixerswillrule]

13 mil for Dario is a steal. I'd be ecstatic if we could keep him for that.

Yup, his salary wouldn't even be in the top 100.

[Ericb5]

13 mil for Dario is a steal. I'd be ecstatic if we could keep him for that.

Yup, his salary wouldn't even be in the top 100.

Plus we have two more seasons of potential improvement to see what his value really is at that point. We also will be capped out then with no prospect of salary cap space for the foreseeable future so the impact of a high salary is much lower.

The biggest thing that we don’t want is to have to pay anyone before we have our last max window, which is next summer. After next summer the contracts given to role players are of much lesser importance. Not saying that it won’t matter, but it would be lessened significantly.


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[Chris76]

13 mil for Dario is a steal. I'd be ecstatic if we could keep him for that.

Yup, his salary wouldn't even be in the top 100.

Plus we have two more seasons of potential improvement to see what his value really is at that point. We also will be capped out then with no prospect of salary cap space for the foreseeable future so the impact of a high salary is much lower.

The biggest thing that we don’t want is to have to pay anyone before we have our last max window, which is next summer. After next summer the contracts given to role players are of much lesser importance. Not saying that it won’t matter, but it would be lessened significantly.


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Dario and Ben were forced to defend perimeter players. 2 strong PFs that probably never seen such schemes and athletic players, before. The potential for improvement from the experience should be very helpful for quicker rotations and better positioning.

Dario's new contract could be difficult to negotiate, if he continues to improve his shooting (40% from 3) and better defense.

His fit with Simmons and Embiid has been good. His athleticism will always be a concern, but incorporating tricks, like the Illy flop helps lessen the lack of rim protection.

[Stribor]

I think dario loves philly and want to play for championships. I bet he eould take less then 10 mils with no trade clause. He was born in a traditional sporting family and he will always value rings more than money.

[76ciology]

I think dario loves philly and want to play for championships. I bet he eould take less then 10 mils with no trade clause. He was born in a traditional sporting family and he will always value rings more than money.

I COULD BE WRONG but there was a rumor that he won’t come to the NBA unless he was drafted by lakers.

I find euros usually are more inclined to winning rings than money because they dont need that much money and they are comfortable in living at small cities. Ersan is a good example. I think Ersan still has house in Milwaukee.