Almost off-season discussion! Trades/Free Agency Ep. 9

MrMiyagi · Post #61 » by **MrMiyagi** » Wed May 16, 2018 10:35 am

N.O.R.E. wrote:What do you guys think of Derrick Favors? I like him for you guys whether you go with Ayton or Doncic (contrats BTW )

He's.... fine? I'm not exactly champing at the bit for free agency so the Suns can sign... Derrick Favors...

Post #62 » by **Qwigglez** » Wed May 16, 2018 10:41 am

Some reason this video showed up in my Youtube feed. Found the beginning pretty funny.

Watch on YouTube

thamadkant · Post #63 » by **thamadkant** » Wed May 16, 2018 10:57 am

Marcus Smart is AMAZING defender and energy guy... he is an X-factor for sure.

Wonder if McD would make a move for him

Post #64 » by **Qwigglez** » Wed May 16, 2018 11:02 am

What does everyone think about Zach Lavine? Would you be comfortable enough to give him a 4 year $80 million deal? That should be enough for the Bulls to not match, a bit of an overpay, but I like the fit with Booker, Jackson, Bender, and Ayton. We'd have that free flowing kind of offense IMO, with everyone being able to hit the three (minus Jackson). Lavine/Ayton PnR would be devastating with Bender and Booker on the three point line. Obviously Booker/Ayton would be the same IMO, however Lavine/Ayton is more athletic. Defensively, I'd be worried, however we'd have the length in our starting five.

Watch on YouTube

Watching him relentlessly attack the basket, I could see Jackson cutting backdoor for a slam. He has the ability to shoot threes off the dribble, which is rare IMO. His stats are deflated this season because he was coming back from an injury, however I could see him getting back to shooting 46% overall with our roster. Could see Booker/Lavine combining for 8-10 threes made a game.

Moochthemonkey · Post #65 » by **Moochthemonkey** » Wed May 16, 2018 12:27 pm

Qwigglez wrote:What does everyone think about Zach Lavine? Would you be comfortable enough to give him a 4 year $80 million deal?

very uncomfortable. Seems like a Brandon Knight raise

King_Supreme · Post #66 » by **King_Supreme** » Wed May 16, 2018 2:16 pm

Qwigglez wrote:What does everyone think about Zach Lavine? Would you be comfortable enough to give him a 4 year $80 million deal? That should be enough for the Bulls to not match, a bit of an overpay, but I like the fit with Booker, Jackson, Bender, and Ayton. We'd have that free flowing kind of offense IMO, with everyone being able to hit the three (minus Jackson). Lavine/Ayton PnR would be devastating with Bender and Booker on the three point line. Obviously Booker/Ayton would be the same IMO, however Lavine/Ayton is more athletic. Defensively, I'd be worried, however we'd have the length in our starting five.

Watch on YouTube

Watching him relentlessly attack the basket, I could see Jackson cutting backdoor for a slam. He has the ability to shoot threes off the dribble, which is rare IMO. His stats are deflated this season because he was coming back from an injury, however I could see him getting back to shooting 46% overall with our roster. Could see Booker/Lavine combining for 8-10 threes made a game.

Suns should pass on handing out any long term deals. The plan should be build around Booker; JJ, #1 pick, overpay vets for 1-2 year deals(think JJ Reddick type contracts), and to maintain cap flexibility 2-3 years from now when Booker and JJ presumably receive max contracts.

FadedCrown · Post #67 » by **FadedCrown** » Wed May 16, 2018 3:14 pm

Trade for Schroder?

King4Day · Post #68 » by **King4Day** » Wed May 16, 2018 3:19 pm

FadedCrown wrote:Trade for Schroder?

I don't care for his attitude. Playing wise, I don't know much about him though.

King4Day · Post #69 » by **King4Day** » Wed May 16, 2018 3:20 pm

thamadkant wrote:Marcus Smart is AMAZING defender and energy guy... he is an X-factor for sure.

Wonder if McD would make a move for him

I'd love him here but he'd be another non-shooter. We really need a strong 3pt shooter on the floor.
I think making a play for Rozier would be worth a look at the very least. Dunno if Boston will move him and if they do, what they'll demand.

Walt_Uoob · Post #70 » by **Walt_Uoob** » Wed May 16, 2018 3:36 pm

I wonder what the price would be for Memphis's pick now that they dropped to #4. Would you do Warren and #16 for Parsons and #4?

Parsons is dead weight and a huge cap hit for two more years, but we'd be building around a core of Young/Booker/Jackson/Bender/Ayton or Doncic/Booker/Jackson/Bender/JJJ or Doncic/Booker/Jackson/Bender/Carter or Doncic/Booker/Jackson/Porter/Bender, so we could just continue to develop mostly organically and then strike in free agency or trade later on. And we'd still be better next year than we were this year.

I don't know if Memphis does it though. That's a big drop in the draft and I'd also have to check if that even frees up enough cap space for them to do anything with.

Frank Lee · Post #71 » by **Frank Lee** » Wed May 16, 2018 3:56 pm

I would not be surprised if McDoubleDown makes a hard attempt to move up in this draft for Young.

He nets both Ayton and Young then goes max to Gordon

Young/Booker/Jackson/Gordon/Ayton

????

Could you get behind that group?

May be the FA play is Capela and moving Ayton to PF part time ???

WeekapaugGroove · Post #72 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Wed May 16, 2018 3:59 pm

My pure speculation wild offseason prediction. Suns draft Ayton and swing a draft day trade for John Wall. They send 16 plus another 1st rounder plus expiring contracts for that huge Wall contract.

Book1Nation · Post #73 » by **Book1Nation** » Wed May 16, 2018 4:27 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:My pure speculation wild offseason prediction. Suns draft Ayton and swing a draft day trade for John Wall. They send 16 plus another 1st rounder plus expiring contracts for that huge Wall contract.

Would prefer Kyle Lowry or really any PG that can shoot.

Frank Lee · Post #74 » by **Frank Lee** » Wed May 16, 2018 4:30 pm

Wall would be the window crack for Boogie

Talent wise huge plus
Boy, but that salary. It’s a splashy gutsy move that doesn’t guarantee a playoff spot though. Would we have enough room and training staff confidence for a 1-2 yr deal for DMC ... Achilles and all ?

WalterBenjamin · Post #75 » by **WalterBenjamin** » Wed May 16, 2018 4:43 pm

I like Bradley for you if you go with Doncic and him and Booker as the main ballhandlers.
On a good contract off course.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #76 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Wed May 16, 2018 4:43 pm

Golanator wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:My pure speculation wild offseason prediction. Suns draft Ayton and swing a draft day trade for John Wall. They send 16 plus another 1st rounder plus expiring contracts for that huge Wall contract.

Would prefer Kyle Lowry or really any PG that can shoot.

Yeah I agree on the shooting piece. Wall wouldn't be my first choice I just have a gut feeling hes the 'star' they end up trading for this summer.

bwoolf2 · Post #77 » by **bwoolf2** » Wed May 16, 2018 4:48 pm

I think Brandon Knight is going to surprise a lot of people next year i think the year off changed the way he sees the game, or i could be completely wrong.

saintEscaton · Post #78 » by **saintEscaton** » Wed May 16, 2018 6:28 pm

Rozier for the right price would be beastly. But of course Ainge will try to fleece whoever he's dealing with, so might as well not even make the call

Post #79 » by **Qwigglez** » Wed May 16, 2018 6:45 pm

Let’s just get Boogie and run the whole twin towers thing.

TeamTragic · Post #80 » by **TeamTragic** » Wed May 16, 2018 7:08 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:My pure speculation wild offseason prediction. Suns draft Ayton and swing a draft day trade for John Wall. They send 16 plus another 1st rounder plus expiring contracts for that huge Wall contract.

Pass on that horrendous contract. Wall just came off an injury and doesn't care about basketball.