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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#21 » by No-Man » Wed May 16, 2018 8:36 pm

Catchall wrote: I think he's a Willie Cauley-Stein-caliber big and he's very likely to go in the top 14 - 17.

these two things don't make sense together
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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#22 » by yoyoboy » Wed May 16, 2018 10:40 pm

Trae Young is going to go top 5 and a lot of people are going to act like it's some huge reach and he should be picked in the back end of the lottery.

I can see Porter Jr (injury concerns), Mikal (teams thinking he's not as high potential), and Sexton (a lot of teams don't need PGs) sliding.
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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#23 » by Justwar » Thu May 17, 2018 1:59 pm

Fischella wrote:I think Bamba and Carter are gonna slide big

How about Carter evolving into a current horford? Bambas athleticism is overrated imo. If he gets stronger and develops a decent j he can be useful. College relies on shot blockers more in my opinion because the lane and the lack of defensive 3 seconds make them more valuable. Can't really think of a guy with a immense length playing with only average athleticism
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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#24 » by Justwar » Thu May 17, 2018 2:01 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I predict Robert Williams and Troy Brown to jump, and Collin Sexton and Michael Porter to drop a decent amount.

Since I think porter is the best player in the draft, if he goes past 4, he's a steal. Sexton is gonna be better in the nba but can see him slide
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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#25 » by Justwar » Thu May 17, 2018 2:03 pm

doordoor123 wrote:All centers are going to slide. Hard to tell who jumps. I think Shai Gilgeous-Alexander jumps into the top 10 and I think there’s a chance Magic take him there.

Zhaire Smith, Dzanan Musa and Kevin Knox Are lottery picks I think. Wendell Carter probably also a lottery pick, but I can see him sliding just outside the lottery. Mitchell Robinson is already sliding. Teams see him as a project. I think Robert Williams also slides out of the lottery.

Lots of guys slide just because of poor reps that are untrue. I don't understand Shai moving up but I had more eye test then most
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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#26 » by Justwar » Thu May 17, 2018 2:07 pm

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doordoor123 wrote:All centers are going to slide. Hard to tell who jumps. I think Shai Gilgeous-Alexander jumps into the top 10 and I think there’s a chance Magic take him there.

Zhaire Smith, Dzanan Musa and Kevin Knox Are lottery picks I think. Wendell Carter probably also a lottery pick, but I can see him sliding just outside the lottery. Mitchell Robinson is already sliding. Teams see him as a project. I think Robert Williams also slides out of the lottery.


How do you feel about the eversopopular Bamba to Gobert comparison? I think it will be quite difficult for Bamba to ever reach that, but curious what others think and how that relates to him potentially sliding given today's game.


I see that comparison and I don’t think Gobert is skilled enough to say Bamba can’t reach that. A lot of what Gobert does is with his size and quickness. But I also see how Gobert was an issue in the playoffs because his offense was lacking. In the NBA you need defense, but when guys are running all over you you need to be able to take advantage of the mismatch on the other end. Gobert wasn’t skilled enough offensively to do that.

Bamba is more of a average athlete. Gobert is a pretty athletic
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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#27 » by Negrodamus » Thu May 17, 2018 2:11 pm

Justwar wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:I predict Robert Williams and Troy Brown to jump, and Collin Sexton and Michael Porter to drop a decent amount.

Since I think porter is the best player in the draft, if he goes past 4, he's a steal. Sexton is gonna be better in the nba but can see him slide


Porter does very little for me.
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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#28 » by Justwar » Thu May 17, 2018 2:22 pm

How much is wcs as much as poor defensive power forwards. In college he was often asked to guard the best player other than pgs. I remember him making Fenton I believe who was a good scorer I think at providence life hell. He switched everything. Zach Randolph doesn't help you look better on D
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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#29 » by Justwar » Thu May 17, 2018 2:23 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
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Negrodamus wrote:I predict Robert Williams and Troy Brown to jump, and Collin Sexton and Michael Porter to drop a decent amount.

Since I think porter is the best player in the draft, if he goes past 4, he's a steal. Sexton is gonna be better in the nba but can see him slide


Porter does very little for me.

Watch hs as a Sr he was heads and shoulders the best. His comeback hurt him
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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#30 » by Negrodamus » Thu May 17, 2018 2:31 pm

Justwar wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Justwar wrote:Since I think porter is the best player in the draft, if he goes past 4, he's a steal. Sexton is gonna be better in the nba but can see him slide


Porter does very little for me.

Watch hs as a Sr he was heads and shoulders the best. His comeback hurt him


I've watched some of them. Just a quick swing through right now, here he is annihilating children:



I'll be more convinced when he's dominating people with similar physical build.
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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#31 » by Justwar » Thu May 17, 2018 2:45 pm

I think he would of annilated college a efficient 20 pt scorer and a very solid defensive tools decent rebounder. He's more of a stretch 4 because big wings tend to play that now
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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#32 » by PhilBlackson » Thu May 17, 2018 3:04 pm

Fischella wrote:I think Bamba and Carter are gonna slide big


I personally don't see either sliding too much but especially not Bamba.

After the combine when some GMs start falling in love with his physical gifts and also once he gets to show off some shooting n offensive moves he's been working on, if anything it won't shock me if gets him name in the convo to go 2-5. Carter maybe, because he got overshadowed by Bagley and Jackson might nudge his way in front of him but I really don't see him falling out of the lottery.

The top candidates imo will be either Bridges. If Colangelo falls in love with another prospect over Mikal, I could see him sliding a little because teams might gamble a bit more on "upside" and Miles really looks like an undersized PF that it wouldn't surprise me if he slide into the mid to late 1st.

With MP Jr, I just can't see the teams b/w 8-12 not picking him up.
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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#33 » by King Ken » Thu May 17, 2018 7:06 pm

Slide- Young, Sexton, Z. Smith, J. Brunson
Move up- Miles Bridges, Porter Jr, K. Thomas, SGA. All of the 1st and 2nd tier centers will be off the board by the 13th pick.

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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#34 » by King Ken » Thu May 17, 2018 7:11 pm

The depth of PGs in the quality backup range will have a serious run between 27-40.

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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#35 » by LofJ » Thu May 17, 2018 7:30 pm

I just want Shai Gilgeous-Alexander to make it to 11. But I expect he's a strong candidate to get drafted by the Magic because the exact prototype that their GM looks for.

As for surprising slides I definitely think Sexton will be picked later than where he's being mocked, the same for Kevin Knox. Troy Brown will be a player that will rise, I wouldn't be shocked if he's taken in the late lottery by either the Clippers or the Nuggets.
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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#36 » by dukes_wild » Thu May 17, 2018 9:20 pm

Basing this off NBADraft.net's current mock

Jump: Troy Brown (4-9 spots), Tony Carr (5-8 spots)

Slide: Wendell Carter (2-4 spots), Robert Williams (3-5 spots)
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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#37 » by Stillwater » Thu May 17, 2018 10:12 pm

I have him higher than most mocks in the late first, but I think Milton will go a lot higher than people thought myself included.
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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#38 » by Stillwater » Thu May 17, 2018 10:15 pm

yoyoboy wrote:Trae Young is going to go top 5 and a lot of people are going to act like it's some huge reach and he should be picked in the back end of the lottery.

I can see Porter Jr (injury concerns), Mikal (teams thinking he's not as high potential), and Sexton (a lot of teams don't need PGs) sliding.

well if teams feel his skillset is enough to overcome his deficiencies athletically and pedestrian length etc you could be right, but I just don't see somebody right now regardless of skill that is worth more than Bamba,Bagly,Doncic,Jackson or Ayton to anyone in that range including Orlando at 6th. What stands out to me about him more than anything is the low release and that would scare me before 12th to LAC
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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#39 » by Forte IV » Thu May 17, 2018 10:32 pm

Lonnie Walker will be a lotto pick. 6'5 and a 6'10 wingspan
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Re: Most surprising pick or slide? 

Post#40 » by Justwar » Fri May 18, 2018 12:07 am

LofJ wrote:I just want Shai Gilgeous-Alexander to make it to 11. But I expect he's a strong candidate to get drafted by the Magic because the exact prototype that their GM looks for.

As for surprising slides I definitely think Sexton will be picked later than where he's being mocked, the same for Kevin Knox. Troy Brown will be a player that will rise, I wouldn't be shocked if he's taken in the late lottery by either the Clippers or the Nuggets.


I would like sexton over Shai. Sexton will be a better defender.

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