2018 Trade Ideas thread

Chuck-Cheese · Post #801 » by **Chuck-Cheese** » Fri May 18, 2018 11:46 pm

TheRealKaboom wrote:
Dloading99 wrote:Taytum Mithcell those guys are stars. and Yeah everybody is saying how great Taytum is and he's great and how we should've taken him.

Tatum averaged 13.9/5/1.6 on the season. Those numbers are pathetic given all the minutes and opportunity he was handed. How does that make him a star?

not sure he's a star but his numbers are better than Ingrams were in his rookie season. I wouldn't say either were pathetic. I mean Tatum had to defer to some veterans for most of the year. I would think that Ingram was given a better opportunity in his first year and put up lesser numbers.

Dloading99 · Post #802 » by **Dloading99** » Sat May 19, 2018 12:29 am

Pythagoras

Man I agree with you. please say that more in here.

I don't understand why this regime is all about the star chasing and not team building. I understand Paul George he said he wanted to come here.

But once again I point at the Celtics all the guys they drafted Jayson Taytum Jaylon Brown Terry Rozier Marcus Smart Blue prints to what they are now.

We were in the finals with them and look how they rebuilt it. it just puzzles me. Danny Ainge did it the right way. Keeping his young players and not trading them not making them available.

Our team can't develop because Magic Continues and Rob continues to put this out that guys aren't untouchable when you have that kind of narrative.

guys get nervous they talk to their agents. who are they talking about? Why aren't they committed. and it's an issue with this front office that this stuff keeps getting out that guys are not untouchable.

So we have to sit here all season with Brandon Ingram Balling thinking? is he gonna be traded for Kawaii. will San Antonio move him. it's like let these guys have a good off season. How can guys be all in with this team when this stuff continues to come out?

it's not professional basically they put the writing on that wall that Julius could talk to other teams. and now the reports come out that he's looking for a contender.

I just wish this team would commit to their development of their squad. Rob said Young guys are winning in the playoffs. Why can't you build around Kyle Kuzma Brandon Ingram Lonzo Ball Julius Randle and Thomas Bryant.

TheRealKaboom · Post #803 » by **TheRealKaboom** » Sat May 19, 2018 4:12 am

Chuck-Cheese wrote:
TheRealKaboom wrote:
Dloading99 wrote:Taytum Mithcell those guys are stars. and Yeah everybody is saying how great Taytum is and he's great and how we should've taken him.

Tatum averaged 13.9/5/1.6 on the season. Those numbers are pathetic given all the minutes and opportunity he was handed. How does that make him a star?
not sure he's a star but his numbers are better than Ingrams were in his rookie season. I wouldn't say either were pathetic. I mean Tatum had to defer to some veterans for most of the year. I would think that Ingram was given a better opportunity in his first year and put up lesser numbers.

Tatum had a higher usage rate than Al Horford. He was deferring to no one, especially after Irving went down. Or was it Gordon Hayward he was deferring to all year?

And what does Brandon Ingram have to do with Jayson Tatum? They're six months apart in age, btw.

Anyway, I'll see you over on the Celtics board, where I'll be doing there what you're doing here. Except in reverse.

DNP-Old · Post #804 » by **DNP-Old** » Sat May 19, 2018 1:38 pm

Dloading99 wrote:Pythagoras

Man I agree with you. please say that more in here.

I don't understand why this regime is all about the star chasing and not team building. I understand Paul George he said he wanted to come here.

But once again I point at the Celtics all the guys they drafted Jayson Taytum Jaylon Brown Terry Rozier Marcus Smart Blue prints to what they are now.

We were in the finals with them and look how they rebuilt it. it just puzzles me. Danny Ainge did it the right way. Keeping his young players and not trading them not making them available.

Our team can't develop because Magic Continues and Rob continues to put this out that guys aren't untouchable when you have that kind of narrative.

guys get nervous they talk to their agents. who are they talking about? Why aren't they committed. and it's an issue with this front office that this stuff keeps getting out that guys are not untouchable.

So we have to sit here all season with Brandon Ingram Balling thinking? is he gonna be traded for Kawaii. will San Antonio move him. it's like let these guys have a good off season. How can guys be all in with this team when this stuff continues to come out?

it's not professional basically they put the writing on that wall that Julius could talk to other teams. and now the reports come out that he's looking for a contender.

I just wish this team would commit to their development of their squad. Rob said Young guys are winning in the playoffs. Why can't you build around Kyle Kuzma Brandon Ingram Lonzo Ball Julius Randle and Thomas Bryant.

Yes, Ainge did do it the right way. This included signing two max free agents and trading for a disgruntled star.

larry14r · Post #805 » by **larry14r** » Sat May 19, 2018 2:39 pm

BBBKobe wrote:http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-pelinka-20180518-story.html

I can see Johnson trading Ingram for Kawhi.

We best trade Ball before we Ingram.

Well San Antonio have no need for Ball because they already have a young guard, and they need a SF to replace Kawhi and Ingram is it.

Pythagoras · Post #806 » by **Pythagoras** » Sat May 19, 2018 2:52 pm

DNP-Old wrote:
Dloading99 wrote:Pythagoras

Man I agree with you. please say that more in here.

I don't understand why this regime is all about the star chasing and not team building. I understand Paul George he said he wanted to come here.

But once again I point at the Celtics all the guys they drafted Jayson Taytum Jaylon Brown Terry Rozier Marcus Smart Blue prints to what they are now.

We were in the finals with them and look how they rebuilt it. it just puzzles me. Danny Ainge did it the right way. Keeping his young players and not trading them not making them available.

Our team can't develop because Magic Continues and Rob continues to put this out that guys aren't untouchable when you have that kind of narrative.

guys get nervous they talk to their agents. who are they talking about? Why aren't they committed. and it's an issue with this front office that this stuff keeps getting out that guys are not untouchable.

So we have to sit here all season with Brandon Ingram Balling thinking? is he gonna be traded for Kawaii. will San Antonio move him. it's like let these guys have a good off season. How can guys be all in with this team when this stuff continues to come out?

it's not professional basically they put the writing on that wall that Julius could talk to other teams. and now the reports come out that he's looking for a contender.

I just wish this team would commit to their development of their squad. Rob said Young guys are winning in the playoffs. Why can't you build around Kyle Kuzma Brandon Ingram Lonzo Ball Julius Randle and Thomas Bryant.

Yes, Ainge did do it the right way. This included signing two max free agents and trading for a disgruntled star.

Only of those three players you just mentioned is currently contributing to their playoff run. Furthermore, their two max guys are Hayward and Horford. We''ve consistently thumbed our nose at signing guys like that in Laker land. The disgruntled star they traded for? They stockpiled assets to acquire, including first trading for IT, who was a major part of that package. IT is another type of player this organization has thumbed their nose at acquiring.

I would also point out that all of the guys the Cs have drafted during the same time frame as us, Smart, Brown, Rozier, Tatum, are still there and helping with this charge. NONE of them have been dangled so the Cs could star chase.

BBBKobe · Post #807 » by **BBBKobe** » Sat May 19, 2018 3:20 pm

larry14r wrote:
BBBKobe wrote:http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-pelinka-20180518-story.html

I can see Johnson trading Ingram for Kawhi.

We best trade Ball before we Ingram.

Well San Antonio have no need for Ball because they already have a young guard, and they need a SF to replace Kawhi and Ingram is it.

Yeah, let’s trade a 21 year old for a 27 year old injured player who can’t even show up to support his team in the playoffs.

Sounds smart.

larry14r · Post #808 » by **larry14r** » Sat May 19, 2018 5:42 pm

BBBKobe wrote:
larry14r wrote:
BBBKobe wrote:http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-pelinka-20180518-story.html

I can see Johnson trading Ingram for Kawhi.

We best trade Ball before we Ingram.

Well San Antonio have no need for Ball because they already have a young guard, and they need a SF to replace Kawhi and Ingram is it.

Yeah, let’s trade a 21 year old for a 27 year old injured player who can’t even show up to support his team in the playoffs.

Sounds smart.

Well the Spurs don't give a F about us or what we want. It's Ingram or no deal.

IcyVeins · Post #809 » by **IcyVeins** » Sat May 19, 2018 6:31 pm

Think he gets traded to the Celtics...

Maybe Hayward + Celtics first round picks.

Don't think the Spurs will take the best package, just the best package from the east.

larry14r · Post #810 » by **larry14r** » Sat May 19, 2018 8:26 pm

IcyVeins wrote:Think he gets traded to the Celtics...

Maybe Hayward + Celtics first round picks.

Don't think the Spurs will take the best package, just the best package from the east.

Bingo.

Sushisensei26 · Post #811 » by **Sushisensei26** » Sat May 19, 2018 8:58 pm

So Towns is on the board as well. Wow....... summer gonna be lit. I am glad we have so much flexibility that we can enter any conversation with any team. It's time for us to get back to relevance. Do your thing Maginka.

IcyVeins · Post #812 » by **IcyVeins** » Sat May 19, 2018 9:16 pm

Crazy thing is that Booker is probably vouching for both Towns + DLO to join the SUns.....

With the 1st pick, 16th pick, 31st and 59th this season.

Another first round pick + potential the Buck's first round pick in 2019...

Suns have the assets to get them.

Chuck-Cheese · Post #813 » by **Chuck-Cheese** » Sat May 19, 2018 10:05 pm

TheRealKaboom wrote:
Chuck-Cheese wrote:
TheRealKaboom wrote:Tatum averaged 13.9/5/1.6 on the season. Those numbers are pathetic given all the minutes and opportunity he was handed. How does that make him a star?
not sure he's a star but his numbers are better than Ingrams were in his rookie season. I wouldn't say either were pathetic. I mean Tatum had to defer to some veterans for most of the year. I would think that Ingram was given a better opportunity in his first year and put up lesser numbers.

Tatum had a higher usage rate than Al Horford. He was deferring to no one, especially after Irving went down. Or was it Gordon Hayward he was deferring to all year?

And what does Brandon Ingram have to do with Jayson Tatum? They're six months apart in age, btw.

Anyway, I'll see you over on the Celtics board, where I'll be doing there what you're doing here. Except in reverse.

ha - who ever it was I think everyone would agree that they were a lot better than the players Ingram deferred to last year.

Chuck-Cheese · Post #814 » by **Chuck-Cheese** » Sat May 19, 2018 10:25 pm

TheRealKaboom wrote:
Chuck-Cheese wrote:
TheRealKaboom wrote:Tatum averaged 13.9/5/1.6 on the season. Those numbers are pathetic given all the minutes and opportunity he was handed. How does that make him a star?
not sure he's a star but his numbers are better than Ingrams were in his rookie season. I wouldn't say either were pathetic. I mean Tatum had to defer to some veterans for most of the year. I would think that Ingram was given a better opportunity in his first year and put up lesser numbers.

Tatum had a higher usage rate than Al Horford. He was deferring to no one, especially after Irving went down. Or was it Gordon Hayward he was deferring to all year?

And what does Brandon Ingram have to do with Jayson Tatum? They're six months apart in age, btw.

Anyway, I'll see you over on the Celtics board, where I'll be doing there what you're doing here. Except in reverse.

by the way, I was surprised he had a higher usage rate than Hortford but you were correct. I was even more surprised that he was tied with smart in terms of usage and behind 5 other players who played 50 or more games. Nice try...

Dloading99 · Post #815 » by **Dloading99** » Sun May 20, 2018 6:24 am

Booker doing everything to get Towns.

That gets it done 1st pick 16th pick and Josh Jackson. Suns get Towns with Booker or instead of Jackson TJ Warren.

Wolves can draft their towns replacement in Ayton. that Deal makes sense for both sides.

Still think the Lakers should stand pat develop their young players and sign Lebron and Paul George. Lebron is signing here.

LAKESHOW · Post #816 » by **LAKESHOW** » Sun May 20, 2018 7:26 am

Top player in draft is better than Towns. Phoenix has #1 pick. No need for Towns.

Spens1 · Post #817 » by **Spens1** » Sun May 20, 2018 7:59 am

LAKESHOW wrote:Top player in draft is better than Towns. Phoenix has #1 pick. No need for Towns.

Ayton is not better than Towns now, lets be honest. Towns is a 20/10 guy already and is ridiculously young. Ayton is fantastic and all but Towns has already proven he is a franchise type player.

Mirjalovic · Post #818 » by **Mirjalovic** » Sun May 20, 2018 8:34 am

No its not ayton

Its Bamba better than Town. Bamba is a generational center

ak7 · Post #819 » by **ak7** » Sun May 20, 2018 10:56 am

Mirjalovic wrote:No its not ayton

Its Bamba better than Town. Bamba is a generational center

If Bamba is a generational center, Ayton has the potential to be the best player ever to play the game. Comparatively speaking. Ayton has a much better skillset for today's game.

Mirjalovic · Post #820 » by **Mirjalovic** » Sun May 20, 2018 11:49 am

ak7 wrote:
Mirjalovic wrote:No its not ayton

Its Bamba better than Town. Bamba is a generational center

If Bamba is a generational center, Ayton has the potential to be the best player ever to play the game. Comparatively speaking. Ayton has a much better skillset for today's game.

Well some players are raw and late bloomer.