WCF: P4 | (1) Houston Rockets vs (2) Golden State Warriors | Tied 2-2

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Houston in 6
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Re: WCF: P4 | (1) Houston Rockets vs (2) Golden State Warriors | Tied 2-2 

Post#241 » by TheGOATRises007 » Fri May 25, 2018 12:32 am

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Not trying to attack you, but how has he been 'cute'? I think the gameplan has been fairly straightforward and devolved into iso-ball often, which isn't 'cute,' moreso fighting fire with fire. What's your recommendation here?


He needs to get Curry in more PnR actions and his rotations have to be better.

He overplayed Looney far too much in game 4 when he was offering nothing. He seems to stuck in his way to make some obvious changes.

If something isn't working, make the change. Make the adjustment.

He's a good coach, but the playoffs are a different animal and IMO he has coached poorly in them overall since his 1st title.

During the 2015 finals, the Cavs were in control and Kerr changes the series by inserting Iggy into the starting line-up. He went away from the routine and won the series. He keeps sticking to it now and it's failing.

The Rockets are a great team, but the Warriors losing to them with how talented they are would be a huge embarrassing blemish on Kerr again.


Yeh, Curry as the primary in a PnR for sure needs to happen more. He's not getting separation off ball. So that action turns into an iso anyway. Re: Looney, I really am at a loss for what you do there. Play Shaun more I guess, but our starters were already 40+ minutes each last game - do you want them to play even more, then throw an extra 27 minutes onto Shaun's workload?

One of Looney/Bell/Young will need to play big minutes with iguodala out. It's just realistic to say we can't avoid that happening.

Also to the point of him being inflexible, he's changed his starting lineup in every series this playoffs IIRC. He also went from an iso-heavy gameplan in 1+2 to a more fluid system in game 3. He coached the last few minutes last game poorly, yes, but you're cherry picking if you're trying to say he's been bad in the playoffs.


Bell played well in game 4. If he continues to play well, I'd ride him over Looney(assuming Looney does poorly again)

I don't think Livingston has been great this series, but he does pose some match-up problems offensively and he'll be flexible defensively.

The point isn't that I think Looney shouldn't see the floor, it's that Kerr to seems to impose too much trust on players when it's not going well and he takes too long to make obvious changes.

To say he coached the last few minutes poorly is an understatement. It was horrific coaching from Kerr. Cost them the game imo.

I don't think he's been bad in the playoffs, but he could be better.
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Post#242 » by TheGOATRises007 » Fri May 25, 2018 12:33 am

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Froob wrote:Lol Kerr getting **** for not winning this series in five games. These hot takes are great.


No one has said that, so I don't know why you're bringing it up....

I mean there’s a thread about Kerr being fired, it’s a 2-2 series, a lot of overreactions.


It was a question iirc.

I don't think the OP said he should be fired.
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Post#243 » by Froob » Fri May 25, 2018 12:33 am

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Post#244 » by TheGOATRises007 » Fri May 25, 2018 12:34 am

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More like awesome work by Kerr to get brownie points with his players :lol:

But honestly, I really dont give 2 craps about that stuff. To steal from another poster, sports are an entertainment business. They don't play the national anthem before Movies and concerts, do we really need it before a game?


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Post#245 » by xfactor » Fri May 25, 2018 12:34 am

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Eddy_JukeZ wrote:No excuses for Kerr anymore tonight.

He's tried being cute all series and it's failed him.

If he doesn't get Curry(with KD) in more pick and roll action, he should be ashamed of himself. He's literally throwing this series away with how he's coaching the offense and his horrific rotations.


Houston is just the better team. It's not that complicated. They deserve their respect.

Yeah just stop lol u warrior fans are something else.


Sorry, but I can't stop telling the obvious truth. What do you want me to do? Lie? :lol:
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Post#246 » by TheGOATRises007 » Fri May 25, 2018 12:35 am

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Tigersrule wrote:
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Houston is just the better team. It's not that complicated. They deserve their respect.

Yeah just stop lol u warrior fans are something else.


Sorry, but I can't stop telling the obvious truth. What do you want me to do? Lie? :lol:


You thought the Pelicans had a great chance vs the Warriors and that was apparently the obvious truth too.

I have to admit, if you're not trolling, you're the most unusual fan on realgm :lol:
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Post#247 » by 510TWSS » Fri May 25, 2018 12:39 am

Let’s see which Kerr trust tonight as the 5th guy. I can’t imagine playing big minutes to Young or West, atm.

Maybe give Looney early run and switch Bell in? Shaun going to have to play in control too, no more 4 to games.

Can’t wait for it to start tonight. Let’s hope for a close non injury game going down to the stretch.
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Post#248 » by Dominator83 » Fri May 25, 2018 12:40 am

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Tigersrule wrote:Yeah just stop lol u warrior fans are something else.


Sorry, but I can't stop telling the obvious truth. What do you want me to do? Lie? :lol:


You thought the Pelicans had a great chance vs the Warriors and that was apparently the obvious truth too.

I have to admit, if you're not trolling, you're the most unusual fan on realgm :lol:


Lots of fans here get way too caught up in the moment. Lots of posters here were wowed by how easily the Pelicans dismantled a good Portland team, and were thinking Curry not being 100% would give the Pels an edge.

Now i never bought into that, but look at all the hot take threads that get started right after each game ends. Hell, the other night we got a CP3 > Curry thread after CP3 had a better 1st half :lol:
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Post#249 » by xfactor » Fri May 25, 2018 12:41 am

Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
xfactor wrote:
Tigersrule wrote:Yeah just stop lol u warrior fans are something else.


Sorry, but I can't stop telling the obvious truth. What do you want me to do? Lie? :lol:


You thought the Pelicans had a great chance vs the Warriors and that was apparently the obvious truth too.

I have to admit, if you're not trolling, you're the most unusual fan on realgm :lol:


Perhaps separating ones heart from their head is unusual. In that case, thanks for the compliment. :D

And the Pels did have a chance. I'm just relieved that they didn't play as well as they could have, and Steph returned to at least bring back the proper spacing.
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Post#250 » by and1GS » Fri May 25, 2018 12:45 am

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and1GS wrote:
Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
He needs to get Curry in more PnR actions and his rotations have to be better.

He overplayed Looney far too much in game 4 when he was offering nothing. He seems to stuck in his way to make some obvious changes.

If something isn't working, make the change. Make the adjustment.

He's a good coach, but the playoffs are a different animal and IMO he has coached poorly in them overall since his 1st title.

During the 2015 finals, the Cavs were in control and Kerr changes the series by inserting Iggy into the starting line-up. He went away from the routine and won the series. He keeps sticking to it now and it's failing.

The Rockets are a great team, but the Warriors losing to them with how talented they are would be a huge embarrassing blemish on Kerr again.


Yeh, Curry as the primary in a PnR for sure needs to happen more. He's not getting separation off ball. So that action turns into an iso anyway. Re: Looney, I really am at a loss for what you do there. Play Shaun more I guess, but our starters were already 40+ minutes each last game - do you want them to play even more, then throw an extra 27 minutes onto Shaun's workload?

One of Looney/Bell/Young will need to play big minutes with iguodala out. It's just realistic to say we can't avoid that happening.

Also to the point of him being inflexible, he's changed his starting lineup in every series this playoffs IIRC. He also went from an iso-heavy gameplan in 1+2 to a more fluid system in game 3. He coached the last few minutes last game poorly, yes, but you're cherry picking if you're trying to say he's been bad in the playoffs.


Bell played well in game 4. If he continues to play well, I'd ride him over Looney(assuming Looney does poorly again)

I don't think Livingston has been great this series, but he does pose some match-up problems offensively and he'll be flexible defensively.

The point isn't that I think Looney shouldn't see the floor, it's that Kerr to seems to impose too much trust on players when it's not going well and he takes too long to make obvious changes.

To say he coached the last few minutes poorly is an understatement. It was horrific coaching from Kerr. Cost them the game imo.

I don't think he's been bad in the playoffs, but he could be better.


I mean, you just said 'I think he's coached poorly in [the playoffs] overall since the first title' and now are saying 'i don't think he's been bad in the playoffs' so I'm not too sure where you stand man ha, but you're making cogent points so no worries.

I like Bell more as well, but he's very jittery. I think Looney gives you a higher floor and Bell a higher ceiling on D. Bell had two very dumb fouls on Harden that he had been explicitly coached to not commit. Looney doesn't do that. If they're both getting beat 70% of the time I can see the thinking to take the safer bet, but yes Looney **** the bed in big minutes. You're right in that I'd swap their minutes and throw caution to the wind.

Again, the reality is Jordan played a ton for his role (18) Looney played slightly more (25) Nick Young took a **** on the floor for a while (12) Shaun played his normal minutes (15) - and yet we STILL had our 4 main guys basically playing 40+. The real issue is that Andre was getting 30 mpg this series, and now that 30 disappears then falls across the full roster. We can play roulette with the bench as much as we want, but Looney/Bell are going to get beat and Nick Young has been largely horrid while Shaun's falls off a cliff once he hits 25 minutes. Can't paper over that.

Rockets are able to make it work with a short rotation because they have a couple great 3 and D guys that are net positives no matter what. We don't have that without Iggy.
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Post#251 » by NxtGr8MagicCntr » Fri May 25, 2018 12:48 am

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Post#252 » by xfactor » Fri May 25, 2018 12:49 am

and1GS wrote:
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Yeh, Curry as the primary in a PnR for sure needs to happen more. He's not getting separation off ball. So that action turns into an iso anyway. Re: Looney, I really am at a loss for what you do there. Play Shaun more I guess, but our starters were already 40+ minutes each last game - do you want them to play even more, then throw an extra 27 minutes onto Shaun's workload?

One of Looney/Bell/Young will need to play big minutes with iguodala out. It's just realistic to say we can't avoid that happening.

Also to the point of him being inflexible, he's changed his starting lineup in every series this playoffs IIRC. He also went from an iso-heavy gameplan in 1+2 to a more fluid system in game 3. He coached the last few minutes last game poorly, yes, but you're cherry picking if you're trying to say he's been bad in the playoffs.


Bell played well in game 4. If he continues to play well, I'd ride him over Looney(assuming Looney does poorly again)

I don't think Livingston has been great this series, but he does pose some match-up problems offensively and he'll be flexible defensively.

The point isn't that I think Looney shouldn't see the floor, it's that Kerr to seems to impose too much trust on players when it's not going well and he takes too long to make obvious changes.

To say he coached the last few minutes poorly is an understatement. It was horrific coaching from Kerr. Cost them the game imo.

I don't think he's been bad in the playoffs, but he could be better.


I mean, you just said 'I think he's coached poorly in [the playoffs] overall since the first title' and now are saying 'i don't think he's been bad in the playoffs' so I'm not too sure where you stand man ha, but you're making cogent points so no worries.

I like Bell more as well, but he's very jittery. I think Looney gives you a higher floor and Bell a higher ceiling on D. Bell had two very dumb fouls on Harden that he had been explicitly coached to not commit. Looney doesn't do that. If they're both getting beat 70% of the time I can see the thinking to take the safer bet, but yes Looney **** the bed in big minutes. You're right in that I'd swap their minutes and throw caution to the wind.

Again, the reality is Jordan played a ton for his role (18) Looney played slightly more (25) Nick Young took a **** on the floor for a while (12) Shaun played his normal minutes (15) - and yet we STILL had our 4 main guys basically playing 40+. The real issue is that Andre was getting 30 mpg this series, and now that 30 disappears then falls across the full roster. We can play roulette with the bench as much as we want, but Looney/Bell are going to get beat and Nick Young has been largely horrid while Shaun's falls off a cliff once he hits 25 minutes. Can't paper over that.

Rockets are able to make it work with a short rotation because they have a couple great 3 and D guys that are net positives no matter what. We don't have that without Iggy
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Post#253 » by TheGOATRises007 » Fri May 25, 2018 12:49 am

and1GS wrote:
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Yeh, Curry as the primary in a PnR for sure needs to happen more. He's not getting separation off ball. So that action turns into an iso anyway. Re: Looney, I really am at a loss for what you do there. Play Shaun more I guess, but our starters were already 40+ minutes each last game - do you want them to play even more, then throw an extra 27 minutes onto Shaun's workload?

One of Looney/Bell/Young will need to play big minutes with iguodala out. It's just realistic to say we can't avoid that happening.

Also to the point of him being inflexible, he's changed his starting lineup in every series this playoffs IIRC. He also went from an iso-heavy gameplan in 1+2 to a more fluid system in game 3. He coached the last few minutes last game poorly, yes, but you're cherry picking if you're trying to say he's been bad in the playoffs.


Bell played well in game 4. If he continues to play well, I'd ride him over Looney(assuming Looney does poorly again)

I don't think Livingston has been great this series, but he does pose some match-up problems offensively and he'll be flexible defensively.

The point isn't that I think Looney shouldn't see the floor, it's that Kerr to seems to impose too much trust on players when it's not going well and he takes too long to make obvious changes.

To say he coached the last few minutes poorly is an understatement. It was horrific coaching from Kerr. Cost them the game imo.

I don't think he's been bad in the playoffs, but he could be better.


I mean, you just said 'I think he's coached poorly in [the playoffs] overall since the first title' and now are saying 'i don't think he's been bad in the playoffs' so I'm not too sure where you stand man ha, but you're making cogent points so no worries.

I like Bell more as well, but he's very jittery. I think Looney gives you a higher floor and Bell a higher ceiling on D. Bell had two very dumb fouls on Harden that he had been explicitly coached to not commit. Looney doesn't do that. If they're both getting beat 70% of the time I can see the thinking to take the safer bet, but yes Looney **** the bed in big minutes. You're right in that I'd swap their minutes and throw caution to the wind.

Again, the reality is Jordan played a ton for his role (18) Looney played slightly more (25) Nick Young took a **** on the floor for a while (12) Shaun played his normal minutes (15) - and yet we STILL had our 4 main guys basically playing 40+. The real issue is that Andre was getting 30 mpg this series, and now that 30 disappears then falls across the full roster. We can play roulette with the bench as much as we want, but Looney/Bell are going to get beat and Nick Young has been largely horrid while Shaun's falls off a cliff once he hits 25 minutes. Can't paper over that.

Rockets are able to make it work with a short rotation because they have a couple great 3 and D guys that are net positives no matter what. We don't have that without Iggy.
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Since his 1st title, I think Kerr has coached poorly overall in the playoffs considering the talent as his disposal.

I'm still not sure he gets the best out of Curry either.

Your last paragraph is true no doubt. The Warriors need to sign 1-2 3 and D guys in the off-season.
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Post#256 » by Tigersrule » Fri May 25, 2018 1:01 am

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Post#257 » by Froob » Fri May 25, 2018 1:01 am

Think Warriors will snag these next two..
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Post#258 » by Froob » Fri May 25, 2018 1:02 am

Man Warriors again in the white jerseys? Laaaame.
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Post#259 » by Hindenburg » Fri May 25, 2018 1:03 am

Is this Marv Albert last year commentating? I really hope it is.
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Post#260 » by Lazy Faizy » Fri May 25, 2018 1:03 am

Is this the worst broadcast crew? I cringe every time I hear Chris Webber and Reggie Miller speak. And Marv Albert has lost his mind. All around terrible crew imo.

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