Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018

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Re: Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018 

Post#741 » by zero24gravity » Fri Jun 1, 2018 4:03 pm

GobertReport wrote:I am not watching any of the Finals games.


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Honestly, watching the Warriors is like torture to me. I can't stand them, but I try to put that aside for the Finals, cause well, it's the Finals!

Still, if the only thing that the NBA cares about it rating/money, then it's a huge turn-off to the non-Cav/Warrior fans to have to sit through that kind of garbage officiating. Honestly, I may not even watch any more Finals games. A (earned) game 1 win for the Cavs would have kept this thing interesting. Now, I simply care a lot less.
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Re: Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018 

Post#742 » by AingesBurner » Fri Jun 1, 2018 4:36 pm

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GobertReport wrote:I am not watching any of the Finals games.


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Honestly, watching the Warriors is like torture to me. I can't stand them, but I try to put that aside for the Finals, cause well, it's the Finals!

Still, if the only thing that the NBA cares about it rating/money, then it's a huge turn-off to the non-Cav/Warrior fans to have to sit through that kind of garbage officiating. Honestly, I may not even watch any more Finals games. A (earned) game 1 win for the Cavs would have kept this thing interesting. Now, I simply care a lot less.


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Post#743 » by KqWIN » Fri Jun 1, 2018 5:07 pm

They are extra annoying because somehow, someway they always seem to catch a huge break. Whenever they look like they are in trouble the other team loses a star player, or the officiating helps them out, or both.

It’s ridiculous.
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Post#744 » by SoCalJazzFan » Fri Jun 1, 2018 5:16 pm

As the commentators were gushing about LeBron's accomplishments and legacy, I couldn't help but think that Durant pretty much gave up any legacy to be on the Warriors. Unfortunate, as I really liked him before that decision. In fact, I wouldn't have a problem with the Warriors without Durant as they were "home grown" up until that point.
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Post#745 » by KqWIN » Fri Jun 1, 2018 6:00 pm

SoCalJazzFan wrote:As the commentators were gushing about LeBron's accomplishments and legacy, I couldn't help but think that Durant pretty much gave up any legacy to be on the Warriors. Unfortunate, as I really liked him before that decision. In fact, I wouldn't have a problem with the Warriors without Durant as they were "home grown" up until that point.


It’s true. I think Curry and Durant have capped their legacies because championships won’t add to it. They are expected to win, and it’s not impressive anymore.

Maybe that’ll end up what turns the tide. One of the reasons the best players became so fixated on championships is because of how much it impacted their legacy. The first thing people talk about when comparing all time greats is how many rings they have.

LeBron is changing that. Even if this series is a sweep, LeBron will have done more for his legacy than Curry or Durant. People are giving so much him so much more respect and praise, deservedly so. KD and Curry will never get there until they take the hard road.

No matter how many rings KD wins with the Warriors, his legacy won’t be the great player he was. Instead, people will remember how he punked out. I’m sure KD will realize this if he hasn’t already being as sensitive as he is.
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Re: Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018 

Post#746 » by AingesBurner » Fri Jun 1, 2018 6:07 pm

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SoCalJazzFan wrote:As the commentators were gushing about LeBron's accomplishments and legacy, I couldn't help but think that Durant pretty much gave up any legacy to be on the Warriors. Unfortunate, as I really liked him before that decision. In fact, I wouldn't have a problem with the Warriors without Durant as they were "home grown" up until that point.


It’s true. I think Curry and Durant have capped their legacies because championships won’t add to it. They are expected to win, and it’s not impressive anymore.

Maybe that’ll end up what turns the tide. One of the reasons the best players became so fixated on championships is because of how much it impacted their legacy. The first thing people talk about when comparing all time greats is how many rings they have.

LeBron is changing that. Even if this series is a sweep, LeBron will have done more for his legacy than Curry or Durant. People are giving so much him so much more respect and praise, deservedly so. KD and Curry will never get there until they take the hard road.

No matter how many rings KD wins with the Warriors, his legacy won’t be the great player he was. Instead, people will remember how he punked out. I’m sure KD will realize this if he hasn’t already being as sensitive as he is.


Barkley, Malone, Stockton, etc have a better legacy than KD and they never won a ring.
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Post#747 » by AingesBurner » Fri Jun 1, 2018 6:42 pm

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Post#748 » by MTJazzv3 » Fri Jun 1, 2018 9:40 pm

I agree with everything above about the Warriors, Durant and LeBron. LBJ is clearly the final four MVP already. And, first opening finals game I didn't watch in decades. Which is a bummer, because it had a legendary LBJ performance.
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Post#749 » by zero24gravity » Fri Jun 1, 2018 10:35 pm

I'd also like to formally & publicly congratulate myself for not trolling the Warriors forum, where they have spent all day bi****ng about Love not getting suspended, when their team was handed the win on silver platter.
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Post#750 » by KqWIN » Fri Jun 1, 2018 10:39 pm

MTJazzv3 wrote:I agree with everything above about the Warriors, Durant and LeBron. LBJ is clearly the final four MVP already. And, first opening finals game I didn't watch in decades. Which is a bummer, because it had a legendary LBJ performance.


The only thing that could salvage the situation at this point would be LeBron winning the MVP despite losing the series. He's clearly the best and most valuable player in the series anyways. Might as well make it official and stop giving the Warriors empty calorie accolades.
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Re: Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018 

Post#751 » by vryadli » Sat Jun 2, 2018 2:12 am

GobertReport wrote:
KqWIN wrote:
SoCalJazzFan wrote:As the commentators were gushing about LeBron's accomplishments and legacy, I couldn't help but think that Durant pretty much gave up any legacy to be on the Warriors. Unfortunate, as I really liked him before that decision. In fact, I wouldn't have a problem with the Warriors without Durant as they were "home grown" up until that point.


It’s true. I think Curry and Durant have capped their legacies because championships won’t add to it. They are expected to win, and it’s not impressive anymore.

Maybe that’ll end up what turns the tide. One of the reasons the best players became so fixated on championships is because of how much it impacted their legacy. The first thing people talk about when comparing all time greats is how many rings they have.

LeBron is changing that. Even if this series is a sweep, LeBron will have done more for his legacy than Curry or Durant. People are giving so much him so much more respect and praise, deservedly so. KD and Curry will never get there until they take the hard road.

No matter how many rings KD wins with the Warriors, his legacy won’t be the great player he was. Instead, people will remember how he punked out. I’m sure KD will realize this if he hasn’t already being as sensitive as he is.


Barkley, Malone, Stockton, etc have a better legacy than KD and they never won a ring.



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Post#754 » by Inigo Montoya » Sat Jun 2, 2018 7:32 am

What's the difference between LeBron going to Miami to form a super team with Wade and Bosh, and Durant going to the Warriors? I don't get the argument about Durant damaging his legacy because he went to the Warriors, unless we say that LeBron damaged his legacy in the same way by going to Miami.
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Post#755 » by AingesBurner » Sat Jun 2, 2018 7:34 am

Inigo Montoya wrote:What's the difference between LeBron going to Miami to form a super team with Wade and Bosh, and Durant going to the Warriors? I don't get the argument about Durant damaging his legacy because he went to the Warriors, unless we say that LeBron damaged his legacy in the same way by going to Miami.


When he brought a championship to Cleveland he instantly repaired it.


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Post#756 » by stitches » Sat Jun 2, 2018 7:35 am

Inigo Montoya wrote:What's the difference between LeBron going to Miami to form a super team with Wade and Bosh, and Durant going to the Warriors? I don't get the argument about Durant damaging his legacy because he went to the Warriors, unless we say that LeBron damaged his legacy in the same way by going to Miami.

it's similar and I had similar negative reaction to it, but what Durant did was much worse. What LeBron did was go to Miami to create a new powerhouse with Bosh and Wade. What Durant did was he joined an already established powerhouse that people were already saying is the best team ever... a team that won 73 games the season before he joined them.
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Post#757 » by vryadli » Sat Jun 2, 2018 2:12 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:What's the difference between LeBron going to Miami to form a super team with Wade and Bosh, and Durant going to the Warriors? I don't get the argument about Durant damaging his legacy because he went to the Warriors, unless we say that LeBron damaged his legacy in the same way by going to Miami.


Difference is huge. Durant didn't FORM superteam, he joined one which he think he can't beat. And yes, LeBron then brought the championship to Cleveland - not small thing for consider.
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Re: Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018 

Post#758 » by Daddy 801 » Sat Jun 2, 2018 2:46 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:What's the difference between LeBron going to Miami to form a super team with Wade and Bosh, and Durant going to the Warriors? I don't get the argument about Durant damaging his legacy because he went to the Warriors, unless we say that LeBron damaged his legacy in the same way by going to Miami.


The Heat weren’t already a championship team. The Heat weren’t eliminating LeBron’s team. I don’t see them as comparable at all. One was getting two free agents and forming a team. The other was riding the success of a championship team. One was starting a business from scratch and making it successful. The other was joining Google and then dominating the market.


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Re: Around the NBA, Season 2017-2018 

Post#759 » by Inigo Montoya » Sat Jun 2, 2018 7:40 pm

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Inigo Montoya wrote:What's the difference between LeBron going to Miami to form a super team with Wade and Bosh, and Durant going to the Warriors? I don't get the argument about Durant damaging his legacy because he went to the Warriors, unless we say that LeBron damaged his legacy in the same way by going to Miami.


The Heat weren’t already a championship team. The Heat weren’t eliminating LeBron’s team. I don’t see them as comparable at all. One was getting two free agents and forming a team. The other was riding the success of a championship team. One was starting a business from scratch and making it successful. The other was joining Google and then dominating the market.


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The Warriors didn't win the championship when he joined, though. They lost to the Cavs that year and then KD signed.
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Post#760 » by sipclip » Sun Jun 3, 2018 2:23 pm

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Daddy 801 wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:What's the difference between LeBron going to Miami to form a super team with Wade and Bosh, and Durant going to the Warriors? I don't get the argument about Durant damaging his legacy because he went to the Warriors, unless we say that LeBron damaged his legacy in the same way by going to Miami.


The Heat weren’t already a championship team. The Heat weren’t eliminating LeBron’s team. I don’t see them as comparable at all. One was getting two free agents and forming a team. The other was riding the success of a championship team. One was starting a business from scratch and making it successful. The other was joining Google and then dominating the market.


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The Warriors didn't win the championship when he joined, though. They lost to the Cavs that year and then KD signed.

They won 73 freaking games and won the championship the year before. There is no comparison between LeBron building a team and Durant ring chasing.

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