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Almost off-season discussion! Trades/Free Agency Ep. 9

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Re: Almost off-season discussion! Trades/Free Agency Ep. 9 

Post#1141 » by LukasBMW » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:35 am

thamadkant wrote:
BoomShakaLuka wrote:Tyson Chandler, Jared Dudley to the Rockets for: Ryan Anderson, Nene.

Suns get a starting caliber stretch 4 in Anderson. Rockets do this deal as a salary dump to land LeBron.





Someone ban this guy


He's on to something.

-Lebron to Houston

-Chandler/Dudley/someone else to Cleveland

-Anderson/Gordon to the Suns

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycnyvygv

The kicker is the Cavs send us #8 in the draft. We send back #16 and a future pick (Could be the Bucks pick, the Miami pick, or our own pick). Houston also sends them 3 first rounders.

So the Cavs turn Lebron and #8 into #16 + 4 more first rounders and cap relief.

The Rockets get Lebron.

We get a starting caliber stretch 4 and a Combo Guard that bring the D'Antoni system in as well as a winning Culture. Plus we get #8.

Your 2018-2019 Suns

Gordon/Trae Young (#8)/Ulis
Booker/Daniels
JJ/TJ
Anderson/Bender/Chriss
Ayton (#1)/Sauce

We keep our young guys add two more youngsters, and add two vets who can play at the cost of #16 and a future pick.

To get the Cavs to bite, it might have to be our own lightly protected 2019 first rounder, but it might be worth it.

Top 5 protected in 2019
Top 3 protected in 2020
Top 1 protected in 2021 or they then get the Miami pick.

Meanwhile the Rockets roll into 2019 with

Chris Paul
James Harden
PJ Tucker
Lebron James
Clint Capela
+ ring chasers
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Re: Almost off-season discussion! Trades/Free Agency Ep. 9 

Post#1142 » by LukasBMW » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:36 am

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thamadkant wrote:I would take Eric Gordon to the Suns for sure, can play a bit of PG/SG, he can play combo guard for sure.

But he is SO valuable next to Harden and Paul... he's like the Draymond Green for them IMO... he just hits shots and make key steals so often


Didn't he used to play for NO and we recruited him hard as a FA? As I remember it, he rejected the Suns, perhaps publicly, saying (or implying or tweeting or something) that he didn't want to come here?


We signed him to a deal as a restricted free agent. He WANTED to play here. NO matched.
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Re: Almost off-season discussion! Trades/Free Agency Ep. 9 

Post#1143 » by denial » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:38 am

LukasBMW wrote:
denial wrote:
thamadkant wrote:I would take Eric Gordon to the Suns for sure, can play a bit of PG/SG, he can play combo guard for sure.

But he is SO valuable next to Harden and Paul... he's like the Draymond Green for them IMO... he just hits shots and make key steals so often


Didn't he used to play for NO and we recruited him hard as a FA? As I remember it, he rejected the Suns, perhaps publicly, saying (or implying or tweeting or something) that he didn't want to come here?


We signed him to a deal as a restricted free agent. He WANTED to play here. NO matched.


Ok my mistake; that bodes much better for him coming here. I haven't watched him much, but my people in Louisiana say they loved him when he was there.
Edit: I definitely want an elite playmaker/PG on the Suns, but I might be outdated in my basketball philosophies. And I have no idea if that's what EG is. But I think we need a pass-first PG. I really like CP. Yes he can score with the best of them. But to me, what makes him special (besides his killer instinct), is his playmaking. I also like Rubio and Rondo. But I think all of these guys are too old and unavailable. But I like them.
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Re: Almost off-season discussion! Trades/Free Agency Ep. 9 

Post#1144 » by thamadkant » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:01 am

LukasBMW wrote:
thamadkant wrote:
BoomShakaLuka wrote:Tyson Chandler, Jared Dudley to the Rockets for: Ryan Anderson, Nene.

Suns get a starting caliber stretch 4 in Anderson. Rockets do this deal as a salary dump to land LeBron.





Someone ban this guy


He's on to something.

-Lebron to Houston

-Chandler/Dudley/someone else to Cleveland

-Anderson/Gordon to the Suns

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycnyvygv

The kicker is the Cavs send us #8 in the draft. We send back #16 and a future pick (Could be the Bucks pick, the Miami pick, or our own pick). Houston also sends them 3 first rounders.

So the Cavs turn Lebron and #8 into #16 + 4 more first rounders and cap relief.

The Rockets get Lebron.

We get a starting caliber stretch 4 and a Combo Guard that bring the D'Antoni system in as well as a winning Culture. Plus we get #8.

Your 2018-2019 Suns

Gordon/Trae Young (#8)/Ulis
Booker/Daniels
JJ/TJ
Anderson/Bender/Chriss
Ayton (#1)/Sauce

We keep our young guys add two more youngsters, and add two vets who can play at the cost of #16 and a future pick.

To get the Cavs to bite, it might have to be our own lightly protected 2019 first rounder, but it might be worth it.

Top 5 protected in 2019
Top 3 protected in 2020
Top 1 protected in 2021 or they then get the Miami pick.

Meanwhile the Rockets roll into 2019 with

Chris Paul
James Harden
PJ Tucker
Lebron James
Clint Capela
+ ring chasers


No isn't ... He wanted to dump Ryan Anderson... No Gordon in the deal because he is key for them
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Re: Almost off-season discussion! Trades/Free Agency Ep. 9 

Post#1145 » by LukasBMW » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:07 am

If trading up for another top 10 pick is too expensive and/or Lebron just signs ourright with another team, plan B should be to go after Kevin Love.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9h7k8rr

Suns send Dudley/Chandler (expiring) and #16 + the Bucks pick.

The Cavs buy out both Dudley and Chandler. Tyson signs with GSW for the min. Dudley retires and joins us as a coach.

We resign Elf and let Len walk.

Payton/Knight/Ulis
Booker/Daniels
JJ/TJ
Love/Chriss/Bender
Ayton/Sauce

No defense at all, but that gives our point guards total floor spacing and plenty of targets. If Knight can't hit open shots and move the ball and/or Elf can't find his shot, then we can make a move midseason for an upgrade.
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Re: Almost off-season discussion! Trades/Free Agency Ep. 9 

Post#1146 » by LukasBMW » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:10 am

thamadkant wrote:
LukasBMW wrote:
thamadkant wrote:



Someone ban this guy


He's on to something.

-Lebron to Houston

-Chandler/Dudley/someone else to Cleveland

-Anderson/Gordon to the Suns

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycnyvygv

The kicker is the Cavs send us #8 in the draft. We send back #16 and a future pick (Could be the Bucks pick, the Miami pick, or our own pick). Houston also sends them 3 first rounders.

So the Cavs turn Lebron and #8 into #16 + 4 more first rounders and cap relief.

The Rockets get Lebron.

We get a starting caliber stretch 4 and a Combo Guard that bring the D'Antoni system in as well as a winning Culture. Plus we get #8.

Your 2018-2019 Suns

Gordon/Trae Young (#8)/Ulis
Booker/Daniels
JJ/TJ
Anderson/Bender/Chriss
Ayton (#1)/Sauce

We keep our young guys add two more youngsters, and add two vets who can play at the cost of #16 and a future pick.

To get the Cavs to bite, it might have to be our own lightly protected 2019 first rounder, but it might be worth it.

Top 5 protected in 2019
Top 3 protected in 2020
Top 1 protected in 2021 or they then get the Miami pick.

Meanwhile the Rockets roll into 2019 with

Chris Paul
James Harden
PJ Tucker
Lebron James
Clint Capela
+ ring chasers


No isn't ... He wanted to dump Ryan Anderson... No Gordon in the deal because he is key for them


If Lebron wants to get PAID and go to Houston, they need to trade for him and it will half to include Anderson and either Gordon OR PJ+Nene to work under the cap.
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Post#1147 » by Kjdills13 » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:47 am

Celtics-chandler, 16, 2019 1st rounder via suns, 2021 Miami 1st
Suns-Hayward, Irving
Bulls-knight, 31st pick

Celtics- sign lebron and have the same team as last year in the playoffs except have lebron; also get 3 first rounders; sounds like a sweet deal for them

Suns- Irving,booker,Jackson,Hayward,ayton, this team could be a force quickly

Bulls- basically take the 2 year so left on knights contract for the 31pick. They are a ways away from brewing good so this doesn’t hurt them
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Post#1148 » by asudevil » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:12 am

Some of these trades are not only unrealistic but don't even meet cba requirements

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Post#1149 » by BobbieL » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:14 am

LukasBMW wrote:
thamadkant wrote:
LukasBMW wrote:
He's on to something.

-Lebron to Houston

-Chandler/Dudley/someone else to Cleveland

-Anderson/Gordon to the Suns

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycnyvygv

The kicker is the Cavs send us #8 in the draft. We send back #16 and a future pick (Could be the Bucks pick, the Miami pick, or our own pick). Houston also sends them 3 first rounders.

So the Cavs turn Lebron and #8 into #16 + 4 more first rounders and cap relief.

The Rockets get Lebron.

We get a starting caliber stretch 4 and a Combo Guard that bring the D'Antoni system in as well as a winning Culture. Plus we get #8.

Your 2018-2019 Suns

Gordon/Trae Young (#8)/Ulis
Booker/Daniels
JJ/TJ
Anderson/Bender/Chriss
Ayton (#1)/Sauce

We keep our young guys add two more youngsters, and add two vets who can play at the cost of #16 and a future pick.

To get the Cavs to bite, it might have to be our own lightly protected 2019 first rounder, but it might be worth it.

Top 5 protected in 2019
Top 3 protected in 2020
Top 1 protected in 2021 or they then get the Miami pick.

Meanwhile the Rockets roll into 2019 with

Chris Paul
James Harden
PJ Tucker
Lebron James
Clint Capela
+ ring chasers


No isn't ... He wanted to dump Ryan Anderson... No Gordon in the deal because he is key for them


If Lebron wants to get PAID and go to Houston, they need to trade for him and it will half to include Anderson and either Gordon OR PJ+Nene to work under the cap.



What needs to happen - messing around with the trade machine - and I came within like $200k of getting something done was somehow move salaries to the Rockets - -for Cleveland to take on Ryan Anderson but no other salary that is guaranteed. I got close with

Houston: LeBron and Tyson Chandler
Cleveland: Ryan Anderson and Alan Williams and Tyler Ulis knowing 7m of that is not guaranteed

Suns: PJ Tucker and Eric Gordon and maybe Nene to make the dollars work (f0r the Suns this is 24m out, 24m back in)

like I said - I was pretty close using the ESPN trade machine. Trying to add Daniels for Nene, taking back a small contract, blah blah blah - Morey could figure it out

Now, this not only involves Houston taking on a big salary like Tyson Chandler but it would mean Morey giving the Cavss two first rounders and possibly the Suns chipping in a protected pick to Cleveland too (and for Tucker and Gordon, I might be inclined to give a protected first rounder-- especially if it means moving Dudley and or Chandler) I am sure the Cavs would love the Suns to take back say Korver but probably not happening. Though maybe the TWolves would do Korver for Aldrich - if Twolves want to use Aldrich contract to get an asset.

The CAvs will want the least amount of dollars on the luxury tax as possible - but Anderson has two years left . Its a long shot - but that's how to make this work - give them a boat load of non guaranteed dollars, picks to take Ryan Anderson
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Post#1150 » by AtheJ415 » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:21 am

Where is this lebron stuff coming from? From the Steve Kyler tweet? Because he is super unreliable. And given Rich Paul, Lebron's age, and him probably wanting to beat GS, there is no way he is coming here. Even if we get both Ayton and Doncic. He is either going to go to a team with a bunch of vets who would have a real shot against GS like Houston, or, he's going to do what he has done his entire career and hide out in the East where he gets a cakewalk to the finals every year. If the latter, he can go to Toronto to play with vets or Boston, or else he can go to the 76ers who have as much young talent as we will even after adding Ayton.

FA is a tool we should use. We are still much better served waiting one offseason imo, but there are some solid vets who are still young and who would fit this team. There are also guys we can trade for IF they come at a bargain, like Kemba, Dragic, or maybe Love.
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Post#1151 » by BobbieL » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:32 pm

Yesterday - getting LeBron to Houston. But after reading twitter and Sam Amico/Amick - can't remember which one- usually not always accurate did have something that Popovich was going to go hard after LeBron. Pop and James like each other. And in fact, if the SPurs added LeBron to Kawhi, Aldrige, that would be pretty stout. Maybe not as good as Paul, Harden, Capela and James but stout.

So, to get LeBron: SPurs need to renounce Parker and everybody. They need to make "wink wink" deals with Gay and Green to opt out. Jefferson has done this. Ginobili. Pau Gasol. It will happen. So, that leaves one player, Pau GAsol

After 7/1 - the Suns would have the cap space to take Gasol but not without an asset from the Spurs, Dejounte Murray. Sorry Pop - you want LeBron - we want Murray

So, is getting Murray enough for taking Pau Gasol. If somehow Dudley could be used again for Aldrich - ship Aldrich, Williams and Ulis to the Spurs - that would get the Spurs close to LeBron range cap wise. Granted - maybe the Cavs would want De Murray and if LeBron opts-in, they figure out a trade.

I still think I prefer Tucker/Gordon to Murray/Gasol but another option perhaps.
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Post#1152 » by Arsenal » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:47 pm

Gauging interest in the following deal (already posted on the Sixers trade board) based on rumors that the Suns want to trade up for Trae Young in addition to taking Ayton at #1.

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Sixers trade / Suns receive:
2018 #10 overall pick
Jerryd Bayless

Suns trade / Sixers receive:
2019 MIL 1st round pick (2019 1-3 and 17-30 protected, 2020 1-7 protected, 2021 unprotected)
2021 MIA 1st round pick (2021 unprotected)

Suns get a backup PG/SG who has Arizona ties and expires in 1 year. They trade up with #10 and #16 to try to get Trae Young.

Sixers basically clear enough cap for LeBron with this move and punt draft capital into the future. They pick a stash like Okobo with #26.

New suns lineup:

PG Young / Ulis / Knight
SG Booker / Daniels / Bayless
SF Jackson / Warren / Dudley
PF Chriss / Bender
CE Ayton / Chandler
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Post#1153 » by TeamTragic » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:13 pm

Arsenal wrote:Gauging interest in the following deal (already posted on the Sixers trade board) based on rumors that the Suns want to trade up for Trae Young in addition to taking Ayton at #1.

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Sixers trade / Suns receive:
2018 #10 overall pick
Jerryd Bayless

Suns trade / Sixers receive:
2019 MIL 1st round pick (2019 1-3 and 17-30 protected, 2020 1-7 protected, 2021 unprotected)
2021 MIA 1st round pick (2021 unprotected)

Suns get a backup PG/SG who has Arizona ties and expires in 1 year. They trade up with #10 and #16 to try to get Trae Young.

Sixers basically clear enough cap for LeBron with this move and punt draft capital into the future. They pick a stash like Okobo with #26.

New suns lineup:

PG Young / Ulis / Knight
SG Booker / Daniels / Bayless
SF Jackson / Warren / Dudley
PF Chriss / Bender
CE Ayton / Chandler


We need a pick higher than #10. Unfortunately that would be a pass.
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Post#1154 » by gaspar » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:24 pm

Arsenal wrote:Gauging interest in the following deal (already posted on the Sixers trade board) based on rumors that the Suns want to trade up for Trae Young in addition to taking Ayton at #1.

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Sixers trade / Suns receive:
2018 #10 overall pick
Jerryd Bayless

Suns trade / Sixers receive:
2019 MIL 1st round pick (2019 1-3 and 17-30 protected, 2020 1-7 protected, 2021 unprotected)
2021 MIA 1st round pick (2021 unprotected)

Suns get a backup PG/SG who has Arizona ties and expires in 1 year. They trade up with #10 and #16 to try to get Trae Young.

Sixers basically clear enough cap for LeBron with this move and punt draft capital into the future. They pick a stash like Okobo with #26.

New suns lineup:

PG Young / Ulis / Knight
SG Booker / Daniels / Bayless
SF Jackson / Warren / Dudley
PF Chriss / Bender
CE Ayton / Chandler

3 1st round picks and $10m of dead money for Trae? Hell no!
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Post#1155 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:19 pm

The million dollar question with LeBron is if Cleveland agrees to play ball and move him like the clips did with paul last year. If they do then it opens up a ton of possibilities. They might just do it because if you're losing him regardless then getting assets to kick start the rebuild could be appealing.

This would be great for the suns because they are a good candidate to be the third team in that deal taking on a good vet and sending Cleveland expirings and picks.

It also is good from the perspective that this deal would be done before July 1st and the whole league isn't held hostage until mid July waiting for bron to make a fa decision.

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Post#1156 » by LukasBMW » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:23 pm

gaspar wrote:
Arsenal wrote:Gauging interest in the following deal (already posted on the Sixers trade board) based on rumors that the Suns want to trade up for Trae Young in addition to taking Ayton at #1.

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Sixers trade / Suns receive:
2018 #10 overall pick
Jerryd Bayless

Suns trade / Sixers receive:
2019 MIL 1st round pick (2019 1-3 and 17-30 protected, 2020 1-7 protected, 2021 unprotected)
2021 MIA 1st round pick (2021 unprotected)

Suns get a backup PG/SG who has Arizona ties and expires in 1 year. They trade up with #10 and #16 to try to get Trae Young.

Sixers basically clear enough cap for LeBron with this move and punt draft capital into the future. They pick a stash like Okobo with #26.

New suns lineup:

PG Young / Ulis / Knight
SG Booker / Daniels / Bayless
SF Jackson / Warren / Dudley
PF Chriss / Bender
CE Ayton / Chandler

3 1st round picks and $10m of dead money for Trae? Hell no!


It's only 2 picks. The Bucks pick and the Miami pick.

That's actually reasonable. Although, I'd try to counter with #16 and the Bucks pick. A future pick and dead salary weight is more acceptable for moving up 6 spots.
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Post#1157 » by TheLogician » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:33 pm

LukasBMW wrote:
gaspar wrote:
Arsenal wrote:Gauging interest in the following deal (already posted on the Sixers trade board) based on rumors that the Suns want to trade up for Trae Young in addition to taking Ayton at #1.

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Sixers trade / Suns receive:
2018 #10 overall pick
Jerryd Bayless

Suns trade / Sixers receive:
2019 MIL 1st round pick (2019 1-3 and 17-30 protected, 2020 1-7 protected, 2021 unprotected)
2021 MIA 1st round pick (2021 unprotected)

Suns get a backup PG/SG who has Arizona ties and expires in 1 year. They trade up with #10 and #16 to try to get Trae Young.

Sixers basically clear enough cap for LeBron with this move and punt draft capital into the future. They pick a stash like Okobo with #26.

New suns lineup:

PG Young / Ulis / Knight
SG Booker / Daniels / Bayless
SF Jackson / Warren / Dudley
PF Chriss / Bender
CE Ayton / Chandler

3 1st round picks and $10m of dead money for Trae? Hell no!


It's only 2 picks. The Bucks pick and the Miami pick.

That's actually reasonable. Although, I'd try to counter with #16 and the Bucks pick. A future pick and dead salary weight is more acceptable for moving up 6 spots.


In his example we'd have to package #10 and #16 to get Trae.
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Post#1158 » by BobbieL » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:37 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:The million dollar question with LeBron is if Cleveland agrees to play ball and move him like the clips did with paul last year. If they do then it opens up a ton of possibilities. They might just do it because if you're losing him regardless then getting assets to kick start the rebuild could be appealing.

This would be great for the suns because they are a good candidate to be the third team in that deal taking on a good vet and sending Cleveland expirings and picks.

It also is good from the perspective that this deal would be done before July 1st and the whole league isn't held hostage until mid July waiting for bron to make a fa decision.

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that is why i have been messing around with ESPN Trade Machine - trying to create deals that limit the guaranteed dollars going back to the Cavs. The Rockets - I am sure would be willing to take on a Dudley or Chandler on an expiring to get a LeBron deal done. I know in all my scenarios - it involves Tucker and Gordon the Suns because - quite frankly, i think they would be good fits and serve two needs: defense and a third guard to rotate with Booker and Knight. But the sticking point is the Cavs willingness to take Anderson - or another team - to send back non guaranteed or limit the CAvs expense . As if the Cavs are going to suck, why do they want to be a lux tax team. Granted the Rockets can send draft picks to the Cavs as well as maybe the Suns send a protected pick for Tucker and Gordon.

If there is a way to move Dudley for Cole Aldrich or another non guaranteed deal - flip that with Williams, along with Anderson to the Cavs .
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Post#1159 » by Revived » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:46 pm

Free agency seems so far away.
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Post#1160 » by Revived » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:49 pm

Cavs won’t trade that #8 until they know what LeBrons doing imo.

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