How many Hawks Fans would NOT select Luka Doncic if he somehow fell to #3?

[Spud2nique]

C'mon, @jamammamally, you see that. Stop talking systems. We had an excellent system the past 4 years. What TF did that get us? 'Splain it ta me.

I'm sorry, but I can't call an offensive system that ranks in the bottom 5 of the league, excellent.

I disagree with your take on Doncic.

But, I'm surprised to hear you break with Austin Green's take on him. Last week Green's take was considered gospel for you, this week you seem willing to dismiss his take for yet another scout whose name you can't remember.

He remembered it! Rashad something..

[td00]

Doncic doesn’t seem to match Pierce’s comments as to what this Hawks team will look like.

Those who are projecting Jackson, even though we have yet to work him out, sounds like he would be our option.

I wouldn’t rule out Bamba though, as these workouts still have loads of secrecy in them.

[Jamaaliver]

Doncic doesn’t seem to match Pierce’s comments as to what this Hawks team will look like.

Those who are projecting Jackson, even though we have yet to work him out, sounds like he would be our option.

I wouldn’t rule out Bamba though, as these workouts still have loads of secrecy in them.

I'm okay with these guys...I just don't think they'll be worthy of a #3 pick.


JJJ projects to have Josh Smith levels of production? Blah. That's top-10 worthy, I guess.....

not top-3.


If Bamba can't score consistently, he can be negated by small ball lineups in the post season. The same way Gobert is. That's problematic for the #3 pick moving forward.

[kg01]

C'mon, @jamammamally, you see that. Stop talking systems. We had an excellent system the past 4 years. What TF did that get us? 'Splain it ta me.

I'm sorry, but I can't call an offensive system that ranks in the bottom 5 of the league, excellent.

I disagree with your take on Doncic.

But, I'm surprised to hear you break with Austin Green's take on him. Last week Green's take was considered gospel for you, this week you seem willing to dismiss his take for yet another scout whose name you can't remember.

First of all, I can't quit Austin. The only difference I'm illustrating is that he didn't elaborate on how the lack of lateral quickness will impact Doncic offensively. When asked to explain further offensively on the radio, he explained that success for Doncic will be dependent on playing with smart players who can benefit from his skillset. As I've said ad nauseum, much like Alice, he's not meant to be a first or second option. With poor players, he'll be limited. With good players, he'll be really good.

Conversely, a guy like Porter or even (eye roll) Young, they can impact the game offensively regardless of teammates. I can't believe I'm on that side of the ledger with Young now. I'm logging out before @macd sees this.

[graymule]

Article recently posted says Luka Doncic will not opt out of the draft. They expect him to go no lower than 4th and
it's reported that some teams are already interested in moving up to 3rd or 4th to get him. Interesting, since the Hawks
currently have #3.

Most anything can happen now. Let the new speculation begin. What is #3 worth? Hawks will now be asking, "What
will you give us for #3?" Or, will Atlanta keep the pick and take Duncic? This opens some doors that weren't open
before he decided to remain in the draft.

Another thought. What if we draft him, then trade his draft rights to another team? That way, the other team would
be assured that Luka was their pick.

[Jamaaliver]

Conversely, a guy like Porter or even (eye roll) Young, they can impact the game offensively regardless of teammates. I can't believe I'm on that side of the ledger with Young now. I'm logging out before @macd sees this.

1. Now, we're getting somewhere.

2. Dude, you're a crazy person.

You lambasted Young for months as his efficiency/production waned. Mac and I exclaimed his struggles were due to his teammates' lack of talent. Now he gets a pass but Luka doesn't? Despite success at every level imaginable over the last 13 months?

You are all over the place.

Spoiler:

Y'all are too high on the dude.

He is what I always thought he was, a guy you'll have to support tremendously in order for him to have success 'his way'.

I'm not saying Young will never get it, I'm saying I'd rather let ORL or SAC deal with it.

As is the case with Doncic, I'm wary of drafting a guy for whom we'll have to re-shape the roster or for whom we'll have to only play a certain way in order to succeed.

End of February

[jayu70]

Conversely, a guy like Porter or even (eye roll) Young, they can impact the game offensively regardless of teammates. I can't believe I'm on that side of the ledger with Young now. I'm logging out before @macd sees this.

1. Now, we're getting somewhere.

2. Dude, you're a crazy person.

You lambasted Young for months as his efficiency/production waned. Mac and I exclaimed his struggles were due to his teammates' lack of talent. Now he gets a pass but Luka doesn't? Despite success at every level imaginable over the last 13 months?

You are all over the place.

Spoiler:

Y'all are too high on the dude.

He is what I always thought he was, a guy you'll have to support tremendously in order for him to have success 'his way'.

I'm not saying Young will never get it, I'm saying I'd rather let ORL or SAC deal with it.

As is the case with Doncic, I'm wary of drafting a guy for whom we'll have to re-shape the roster or for whom we'll have to only play a certain way in order to succeed.

End of February

That's why he's the Cagey One, slippery lil bugger.

[kg01]

Conversely, a guy like Porter or even (eye roll) Young, they can impact the game offensively regardless of teammates. I can't believe I'm on that side of the ledger with Young now. I'm logging out before @macd sees this.

1. Now, we're getting somewhere.

2. Dude, you're a crazy person.

You lambasted Young for months as his efficiency/production waned. Mac and I exclaimed his struggles were due to his teammates' lack of talent. Now he gets a pass but Luka doesn't? Despite success at every level imaginable over the last 13 months?

You are all over the place.

Spoiler:

Y'all are too high on the dude.

He is what I always thought he was, a guy you'll have to support tremendously in order for him to have success 'his way'.

I'm not saying Young will never get it, I'm saying I'd rather let ORL or SAC deal with it.

As is the case with Doncic, I'm wary of drafting a guy for whom we'll have to re-shape the roster or for whom we'll have to only play a certain way in order to succeed.

End of February

Hey, I'm not the one masquerading as "Brad Rowland" the Hawk/Celtic fan and many other personalities. Glass houses, bro. Glass crazy houses.

Look, I still don't like the kid but I see we're going to need some plus offensive guys since our coaching staff seems to lack offensive chops. That's a major change which has precipitated a shift our draft needs IMHO.

I'm like 6 moves ahead of you, mayne. Get on muh level, Brad.

[Jamaaliver]

Hey, I'm not the one masquerading as "Brad Rowland" the Hawk/Celtic fan and many other personalities. Glass houses, bro. Glass crazy houses.

That's your comeback?









I expected better kg.

[Jamaaliver]

Everyone outside of Ayton (and potentially Porter, Jr) will need a strong teammate to pair with. Luka is waaaaaay more proven than these other options who struggled playing against teenagers last year.


I'll take the 17/6/6 Doncic is likely to provide and build around that Ben Simmons-esque level of production any day of the week.

[Jamaaliver]

Luka Doncic to remain in NBA draft

Luka Doncic will not withdraw his name from the 2018 NBA draft early-entry list, a source told ESPN.

Doncic, the reigning MVP of the Euroleague regular season, Euroleague Final Four and ACB regular season, is playing with Real Madrid in the Spanish league (ACB) playoffs.

Where Doncic will be drafted remains a significant point of interest. He is projected to be picked No. 4 in the latest ESPN mock draft.

He remains under consideration at No. 2 and No. 3, a source told ESPN.

A number of teams have also inquired about the possibility of trading into the top three, with an eye on picking Doncic. Those conversations are expected to become more serious in the coming week.

ESPN

[jayu70]

Luka Doncic to remain in NBA draft

Luka Doncic will not withdraw his name from the 2018 NBA draft early-entry list, a source told ESPN.

Doncic, the reigning MVP of the Euroleague regular season, Euroleague Final Four and ACB regular season, is playing with Real Madrid in the Spanish league (ACB) playoffs.

Where Doncic will be drafted remains a significant point of interest. He is projected to be picked No. 4 in the latest ESPN mock draft.

He remains under consideration at No. 2 and No. 3, a source told ESPN.

A number of teams have also inquired about the possibility of trading into the top three, with an eye on picking Doncic. Those conversations are expected to become more serious in the coming week.

ESPN

Was there ever about him withdrawing? I thought he was always staying in the draft just deciding wether to come over or not depending on what team selects him.

[Jamaaliver]

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[Spud2nique]

Conversely, a guy like Porter or even (eye roll) Young, they can impact the game offensively regardless of teammates. I can't believe I'm on that side of the ledger with Young now. I'm logging out before @macd sees this.

1. Now, we're getting somewhere.

2. Dude, you're a crazy person.

You lambasted Young for months as his efficiency/production waned. Mac and I exclaimed his struggles were due to his teammates' lack of talent. Now he gets a pass but Luka doesn't? Despite success at every level imaginable over the last 13 months?

You are all over the place.

Spoiler:

Y'all are too high on the dude.

He is what I always thought he was, a guy you'll have to support tremendously in order for him to have success 'his way'.

I'm not saying Young will never get it, I'm saying I'd rather let ORL or SAC deal with it.

As is the case with Doncic, I'm wary of drafting a guy for whom we'll have to re-shape the roster or for whom we'll have to only play a certain way in order to succeed.

End of February

Hey, I'm not the one masquerading as "Brad Rowland" the Hawk/Celtic fan and many other personalities. Glass houses, bro. Glass crazy houses.

Look, I still don't like the kid but I see we're going to need some plus offensive guys since our coaching staff seems to lack offensive chops. That's a major change which has precipitated a shift our draft needs IMHO.

I'm like 6 moves ahead of you, mayne. Get on muh level, Brad.

Lol...Braaaaaaaddd... Brad does love his Celts and he’s best buds with MacD ..

[Jamaaliver]

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[Jamaaliver]

Can we quit messing around and just draft this kid, already?

Even his bad games are impressive.

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[kg01]

Can we quit messing around and just draft this kid, already?

Even his bad games are impressive.

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CBS cbb guy was on NBARadio this morning. When axed about Doncic he had an interesting comp .... Hedo Turkoglu ... yawn.

[Jamaaliver]

CBS cbb guy was on NBARadio this morning. When axed about Doncic he had an interesting comp .... Hedo Turkoglu ... yawn.

Yeah, but NBA scout Austin Green really likes luka and he's considered an eggspurt in NBA circles.

So....

[kg01]

CBS cbb guy was on NBARadio this morning. When axed about Doncic he had an interesting comp .... Hedo Turkoglu ... yawn.

Yeah, but NBA scout Austin Green really likes luka and he's considered an eggspurt in NBA circles.

So....

I already explained that Green's analysis was a lot more nuanced than you seem to be recognizing.

There's layers to this, mayne. Try to keep up.

[Spud2nique]

Can we quit messing around and just draft this kid, already?

Even his bad games are impressive.

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clutch, prime time player.

CBS cbb guy was on NBARadio this morning. When axed about Doncic he had an interesting comp .... Hedo Turkoglu ... yawn.

This is exactly the only thing that scares me about drafting Luka...look at Edy line..6/7...makes me feel the European stats are skewed a bit.