Draft Thread 6.0: Magic picking 6th, 35th, 41st

[The Effect]

I was listening to the locked on nba mock draft and it went

1. Doncic
2. Ayton
3. JJJ
4. Young
5. Bamba

Who would yall take if it went this way? At this point im pretty much off of Porter. Id have to go Bagley in this senerio. Phillip Rossman took WCJ

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If bagley is there and we pass on him.......

[Darth Magic]

I was listening to the locked on nba mock draft and it went

1. Doncic
2. Ayton
3. JJJ
4. Young
5. Bamba

Who would yall take if it went this way? At this point im pretty much off of Porter. Id have to go Bagley in this senerio. Phillip Rossman took WCJ

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I was really angry listening to it

[swarlesbarkley]

Admittedly I haven't watched much of Bagley - but it sounds like his strengths/weaknesses are similar to Melo's coming out of college? Seems like a PF who can score from anywhere but questionable defense? Is Melo a decent comp coming out of college for Bagley?

[OrlandoDream]

Disagree. Just say no to Bamba/JJJ!

I disagree.

Can I get some reasons why we disagree or we just gonna point it out and walk away? Kinda lose an argument by just saying "your wrong" and not stating any reasons/facts as to why.

Also how could you not want JJJ?!

I've said my reasons several times for not wanting JJJ/Bamba. Both are too much of defensive players, while being a project on offense IMO. Thus I would pass on and don't want either.
Honestly I don't want a big at all this draft, however if I had to draft one, it would be Bagley or WCJ.

So you seem to like the most offensively minded bigs despite that we have had one for the past 6 years and have been nothing but a losing team all that time. Bagley will be a PF in this league bc he is not a great defender and WCJr I have not seen enough out of his game to get such praise. WCJr has a higher floor then JJJ or Bamba but his ceiling is much lower. The Al Horford comparisons arent bad but he has alot of risk as well.

JJJ and Bamba alone you know that they will give you everything on the defensive end every night. Bamba with a 7'9 reach? Thats insane. And they both can know down that 3 pointers. Pretty much JJJ and Bamba are your prototypical bigs in today's NBA. They fit that Capella model for most parts.

Only unicorn C today like Embid, Porz, AD are two-way players that the team runs the offense through. Rest such as Gobert, Capella, DJ, etc are defensive minded and let the guards do the scoring.

[Patrick1978]

Bagley at 6 would be a blessing

[Shady Franchise]

MPJ has a strained hip!

[IllMagic04]

I was listening to the locked on nba mock draft and it went

1. Doncic
2. Ayton
3. JJJ
4. Young
5. Bamba

Who would yall take if it went this way? At this point im pretty much off of Porter. Id have to go Bagley in this senerio. Phillip Rossman took WCJ

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Idiotic mock.

Ayton is going #1.

Young isn’t BPA at #4 and doesn’t fill a need for a team focused on the playoffs.

Technically I agree but I dont think we know for sure what Memphis is doing. We assume they trying for the playoffs but we dont know. Conley is always hurt. Maybe they are looking to turn the page. Never know. Ayton is going 1. After that I have no clue how this thing to go.

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[Shady Franchise]

Can I get some reasons why we disagree or we just gonna point it out and walk away? Kinda lose an argument by just saying "your wrong" and not stating any reasons/facts as to why.

Also how could you not want JJJ?!

I've said my reasons several times for not wanting JJJ/Bamba. Both are too much of defensive players, while being a project on offense IMO. Thus I would pass on and don't want either.
Honestly I don't want a big at all this draft, however if I had to draft one, it would be Bagley or WCJ.

So you seem to like the most offensively minded bigs despite that we have had one for the past 6 years and have been nothing but a losing team all that time. Bagley will be a PF in this league bc he is not a great defender and WCJr I have not seen enough out of his game to get such praise. WCJr has a higher floor then JJJ or Bamba but his ceiling is much lower. The Al Horford comparisons arent bad but he has alot of risk as well.

JJJ and Bamba alone you know that they will give you everything on the defensive end every night. Bamba with a 7'9 reach? Thats insane. And they both can know down that 3 pointers. Pretty much JJJ and Bamba are your prototypical bigs in today's NBA. They fit that Capella model for most parts.

Only unicorn C today like Embid, Porz, AD are two-way players that the team runs the offense through. Rest such as Gobert, Capella, DJ, etc are defensive minded and let the guards do the scoring.

Not true. Go read the Bagley thread in the NBA Draft forum. Lot's of info in there on how he wasn't asked to be a defensive force because they had Carter. There is actually a lot of room for him to grow defensively in the NBA. He could become a decent/good defender, but yeah, I don't think anyone is expecting him to be Bamba or JJJ. He's no Okafor though, either.

[Shady Franchise]

I was listening to the locked on nba mock draft and it went

1. Doncic
2. Ayton
3. JJJ
4. Young
5. Bamba

Who would yall take if it went this way? At this point im pretty much off of Porter. Id have to go Bagley in this senerio. Phillip Rossman took WCJ

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Idiotic mock.

Ayton is going #1.

Young isn’t BPA at #4 and doesn’t fill a need for a team focused on the playoffs.

Technically I agree but I dont think we know for sure what Memphis is doing. We assume they trying for the playoffs but we dont know. Conley is always hurt. Maybe they are looking to turn the page. Never know. Ayton is going 1. After that I have no clue how this thing to go.

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I have a feeling Bagley is going 1 or 2. I forget which poster brought it up, but it's been awfully quiet on the Bagley front.

[NotACat]

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I think there's some validity to the Young to Atlanta rumors now. Really hope they like someone else better though.

I was listening to the locked on nba mock draft and it went

1. Doncic
2. Ayton
3. JJJ
4. Young
5. Bamba

Who would yall take if it went this way? At this point im pretty much off of Porter. Id have to go Bagley in this senerio. Phillip Rossman took WCJ

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I think WCJ is the right choice if the draft plays out like this, unless gives us a great deal to move back for Bagley. I really like Bagley, but I don't like him next to AG and Isaac.

I think SGA could also be a solid option here, but I'm higher on him than most people. I'm blown away by how much he grew during his first year and how much more he can grow and develop.

[pepe1991]

if he never gets better at anything, he isnt worth it. a defensive center isnt worth a Top-5 pick.

You wouldn't use top 5 pick on Gobert? Just asking, because I definitely would. Not saying Bamba is the next coming of Rudy but it's sth that needs to be considered while making such statement as yours.

Gobert, Green, Gasol, Capela, Jordan... check where they were drafted... you don't need a top 5 pick or even a top 20 pick to get great low usage defensive Cs like them.

But he has offensive potential, unlike most of them. Also all of them are really good players. Matter of fact 3 DPOYs.
I "love" how you forgot to add Al Horford, Davis( 100% of time at C ,according to BB reference in playoffs) and Embiid. But they don't fit your stand so you didn't mention them
Oh and what else they have in common? Davis- 1# overall pick, Embiid- should have been 1# overall pick ( went 3rd), Horford -3rd overall pick.

Most success this team has had in past decade- with defensive center.

In general i don't agree with notion that it's important where you are drafted, some players fall for stupid reasons, Jokić and M. Gasol looked like The Biggest loser candidates.
Leonard , one of best two way players in years wasn't even lottery pick.
Giannis was late lottery pick.

[OrlChamps2030]

I've said my reasons several times for not wanting JJJ/Bamba. Both are too much of defensive players, while being a project on offense IMO. Thus I would pass on and don't want either.
Honestly I don't want a big at all this draft, however if I had to draft one, it would be Bagley or WCJ.

So you seem to like the most offensively minded bigs despite that we have had one for the past 6 years and have been nothing but a losing team all that time. Bagley will be a PF in this league bc he is not a great defender and WCJr I have not seen enough out of his game to get such praise. WCJr has a higher floor then JJJ or Bamba but his ceiling is much lower. The Al Horford comparisons arent bad but he has alot of risk as well.

JJJ and Bamba alone you know that they will give you everything on the defensive end every night. Bamba with a 7'9 reach? Thats insane. And they both can know down that 3 pointers. Pretty much JJJ and Bamba are your prototypical bigs in today's NBA. They fit that Capella model for most parts.

Only unicorn C today like Embid, Porz, AD are two-way players that the team runs the offense through. Rest such as Gobert, Capella, DJ, etc are defensive minded and let the guards do the scoring.

Not true. Go read the Bagley thread in the NBA Draft forum. Lot's of info in there on how he wasn't asked to be a defensive force because they had Carter. There is actually a lot of room for him to grow defensively in the NBA. He could become a decent/good defender, but yeah, I don't think anyone is expecting him to be Bamba or JJJ. He's no Okafor though, either.

Yeah but Bagley is limited physically defensively at the C spot. I can see him becoming a decent man defender due to his mobility and activity but he just doesn’t have the size/length to be an elite rim protector

[tiderulz]

You wouldn't use top 5 pick on Gobert? Just asking, because I definitely would. Not saying Bamba is the next coming of Rudy but it's sth that needs to be considered while making such statement as yours.

Gobert, Green, Gasol, Capela, Jordan... check where they were drafted... you don't need a top 5 pick or even a top 20 pick to get great low usage defensive Cs like them.

But he has offensive potential, unlike most of them. Also all of them are really good players. Matter of fact 3 DPOYs.
I "love" how you forgot to add Al Horford, Davis( 100% of time at C ,according to BB reference in playoffs) and Embiid. But they don't fit your stand so you didn't mention them
Oh and what else they have in common? Davis- 1# overall pick, Embiid- should have been 1# overall pick ( went 3rd), Horford -3rd overall pick.

Most success this team has had in past decade- with defensive center.

In general i don't agree with notion that it's important where you are drafted, some players fall for stupid reasons, Jokić and M. Gasol looked like The Biggest loser candidates.
Leonard , one of best two way players in years wasn't even lottery pick.
Giannis was late lottery pick.

he didnt mention them because he showed you can get those defensive centers later in the draft. Yes, you can get an Embiid or Davis, but they are elite defensive along with advanced offensive games.

[Patrick1978]

Why are we so intent on drafting the next Trey Burke because there's a far-flung possibility that he MIGHT be the next Curry, a player who's the greatest shooter in the history of basketball?

Trae Young CANNOT defend. Unless he gets some Messi like "treatment". In the modern NBA, you need long wings and rim-protecting bigs. The league is full of point guards we can trade for or sign. Hell, I'd be fine with Simmons running the point.

The Orlando Magic do not play in the NCAA. This is a big-boy league. Young will get attacked every single night. Relentlessly. Until he withers or shows he can stay in front of guys. We're not in a position as a franchise to put everything on one guy. We need a Carter, Bamba, JJJ, or Knox to create a young, explosive team that can defend at every position. That is how you become elite.

If/when Young flames out, it sets our franchise back ANOTHER 3-5 years. Even if he becomes an above-average to elite scorer and we make the playoffs, we'll never get past the second round. The point is to win rings and Trae Young is NOT going to be the best player on a championship team in his career. Could he become a JJ Redick-esque player with better ball handling/court vision? Sure. Could he become an Isaiah Thomas-esque player with (slightly) better defense and comparable scoring ability? Sure. Neither of those players should go #6 in an NBA Draft with 7 players clearly better than Young.

Trae Young seems like a guy that needs to fall. Both for motivation and as a correct measure of his skillset.

I know it's been a rough 8 years. But, why are we so thirsty to make the same mistakes? We have to break the loop somehow. Trae Young might win an MVP someday(in Greece probably), but we have the chance to draft someone that can team with AG and Isaac to create an absolutely dominant frontcourt. Guards are everywhere in this league. Everywhere.

We should come out of this draft with one of Bamba/Knox/JJJ/Carter and one of Holiday/Okobo/J. Robinson/Divincenzo.

[VFX]

Gobert, Green, Gasol, Capela, Jordan... check where they were drafted... you don't need a top 5 pick or even a top 20 pick to get great low usage defensive Cs like them.

But he has offensive potential, unlike most of them. Also all of them are really good players. Matter of fact 3 DPOYs.
I "love" how you forgot to add Al Horford, Davis( 100% of time at C ,according to BB reference in playoffs) and Embiid. But they don't fit your stand so you didn't mention them
Oh and what else they have in common? Davis- 1# overall pick, Embiid- should have been 1# overall pick ( went 3rd), Horford -3rd overall pick.

Most success this team has had in past decade- with defensive center.

In general i don't agree with notion that it's important where you are drafted, some players fall for stupid reasons, Jokić and M. Gasol looked like The Biggest loser candidates.
Leonard , one of best two way players in years wasn't even lottery pick.
Giannis was late lottery pick.

he didnt mention them because he showed you can get those defensive centers later in the draft. Yes, you can get an Embiid or Davis, but they are elite defensive along with advanced offensive games.

Or you can make the finals with Zaza Pachulia or Tristan Thompson starting at center if you have talent elsewhere.

[taj2133]

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Hey, @Josh Robbins: Collin Sexton works out for the Magic Saturday
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[tiderulz]

Rick Bonnell @rick_bonnell
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Hey, @Josh Robbins: Collin Sexton works out for the Magic Saturday
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i'll disagree on that. fixing jump shot mechanics can be a major issue

[j-ragg]

Sexton’s jumper is butt ugly. Even the butt uglyness isn’t consistent.

Fully prepared for us to draft him.

[Nyce_1]

Rick Bonnell @rick_bonnell
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Hey, @Josh Robbins: Collin Sexton works out for the Magic Saturday
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that shot looks like mine. Not good for franchise PG.

[Nyce_1]

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