Is DeAndre Ayton the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice?

[KHRICH]

Doncic has that "basketball prodigy" feel in him for what it's worth and so I'd be picking him 1.

rUBIO had that feel

[D3ko]

GYK to avoid keep quoting the whole speech I will carry from here.

Mike Miller is a horrible comparison , Doncic is a ball handler that is Most Important Skills is to create for others, mainly in pick and roll , so definitely is not what miller was.

Doncic has a balcanic body, big shoulders , big butt , compact upper body , we will see how he bulk up, his body has a lot to work, Madrid in a good way has focus in develop skills and a long term growing muscle training , he would be a big dude. He would play as point forward in his primE.

I get that he would not be Marcus Smart, but he has that kind of passion , and motor he would fight every loose ball, he grabs a lot of defensive rebound winning the position over bigs, he is not Soft, he will have some fights along the season.He is a proved winner.

And just the last thought, every player in the draft is unknown for the standards of NBA, unproven and doubt, unless Doncic, he is a professional player for years , the comparision with Teodosic , is just a easy racism action.

Is much closer to be Marcus Smart than Milos Teodisic .

[7thshield]

Suns need a young big they have brooker .

Who brooker?

[Ballerhogger]

Suns need a young big they have brooker .

Who brooker?

Booker****

[flintsky21]

Doncic has that "basketball prodigy" feel in him for what it's worth and so I'd be picking him 1.

rUBIO had that feel

Agreed. Now imagine if Rubio is 4 inches taller and can shoot.

[GIMME_DATT]

Going to. The odd one and roll with Tres Young


Star in the making

[NoBias]

Doncic has that "basketball prodigy" feel in him for what it's worth and so I'd be picking him 1.

As did Rubio.

[iggymcfrack]

Doncic has that "basketball prodigy" feel in him for what it's worth and so I'd be picking him 1.

rUBIO had that feel

Agreed. Now imagine if Rubio is 4 inches taller and can shoot.

The year before declaring for the NBA draft, a 20-year old Rubio averaged 6/3/4 in Europe on .324/.252/.797 splits.
The year before declaring for the draft, a 18/19-year old Doncic averaged 15/5/5 in Europe on .456/.309/.801 splits.

I don't really see these two as being comparable at all. Ayton over Doncic is going to be this generation's Bowie over Jordan.

[NoBias]

rUBIO had that feel

Agreed. Now imagine if Rubio is 4 inches taller and can shoot.

The year before declaring for the NBA draft, a 20-year old Rubio averaged 6/3/4 in Europe on .324/.252/.797 splits.
The year before declaring for the draft, a 18/19-year old Doncic averaged 15/5/5 in Europe on .456/.309/.801 splits.

I don't really see these two as being comparable at all. Ayton over Doncic is going to be this generation's Bowie over Jordan.

Hes not comparing their skill sets. Its the hype. Almost every European who had been hyped didnt necessarily fail in the NBA. but werent as good as their hype alluded them to be. Notice how most European who was picked later in the draft became great as opposed to the ones chosen early? Of course theres some outliers, but its not the norm.

[iggymcfrack]

Agreed. Now imagine if Rubio is 4 inches taller and can shoot.

The year before declaring for the NBA draft, a 20-year old Rubio averaged 6/3/4 in Europe on .324/.252/.797 splits.
The year before declaring for the draft, a 18/19-year old Doncic averaged 15/5/5 in Europe on .456/.309/.801 splits.

I don't really see these two as being comparable at all. Ayton over Doncic is going to be this generation's Bowie over Jordan.

Hes not comparing their skill sets. Its the hype. Almost every European who had been hyped didnt necessarily fail in the NBA. but werent as good as their hype alluded them to be. Notice how most European who was picked later in the draft became great as opposed to the ones chosen early? Of course theres some outliers, but its not the norm.

They were always hyped based on potential and tools though. This is the first time in the history of the Euroleague that you've actually had an 18/19-year old full on dominate like that.

[ubernathan]

You gotta take Mo Bamba. You can't teach that size and length.

[iggymcfrack]

You gotta take Mo Bamba. You can't teach that size and length.

I definitely like him better than Ayton. I feel like he's the second most attractive prospect in the draft. I wouldn't touch Bagley or Jackson in the Top 3.

[Mirotic12]

No you're not the only one. Bamba's ceiling is sky high, and I think he can reach it. Not a knock on Ayton though, as Ayton will get the offense run through him from day one. Doncic is going to be awesome, but I think he's scared away a bunch of teams due to his buyout clause and the need for many of these high lottery teams to select a player that can contribute right away. Rather than potentially stashing a player like Doncic that could wind up not coming to the NBA for a couple years like Rubio or Mirotic, I think his slide on recent draft boards is due to things outside of his basketball skill which is a shame.

Which player projects the best is a complete toss up, much more so than many drafts in previous years. It's all about fit, and if the correct team selects the player that fits their style nad culture best, then many of these high level prospects can thrive.

This should be of zero influence and factor in drafting Doncic. Real Madrid already signed his replacement.

[Pachinko_]

Agreed. Now imagine if Rubio is 4 inches taller and can shoot.

The year before declaring for the NBA draft, a 20-year old Rubio averaged 6/3/4 in Europe on .324/.252/.797 splits.
The year before declaring for the draft, a 18/19-year old Doncic averaged 15/5/5 in Europe on .456/.309/.801 splits.

I don't really see these two as being comparable at all. Ayton over Doncic is going to be this generation's Bowie over Jordan.

Hes not comparing their skill sets. Its the hype. Almost every European who had been hyped didnt necessarily fail in the NBA. but werent as good as their hype alluded them to be. Notice how most European who was picked later in the draft became great as opposed to the ones chosen early? Of course theres some outliers, but its not the norm.

Yeah well that's why they call it hype, the definition of hype is "extravagant or intensive publicity or promotion, often exaggerating benefits". Hyper-excess-hyperbole.

But thankfully we have gone to school, we can read numbers, and we can use them to make our own assessments.

[KHRICH]

The year before declaring for the NBA draft, a 20-year old Rubio averaged 6/3/4 in Europe on .324/.252/.797 splits.
The year before declaring for the draft, a 18/19-year old Doncic averaged 15/5/5 in Europe on .456/.309/.801 splits.

I don't really see these two as being comparable at all. Ayton over Doncic is going to be this generation's Bowie over Jordan.

Hes not comparing their skill sets. Its the hype. Almost every European who had been hyped didnt necessarily fail in the NBA. but werent as good as their hype alluded them to be. Notice how most European who was picked later in the draft became great as opposed to the ones chosen early? Of course theres some outliers, but its not the norm.

Yeah well that's why they call it hype, the definition of hype is "extravagant or intensive publicity or promotion, often exaggerating benefits". Hyper-excess-hyperbole.

But thankfully we have gone to school, we can read numbers, and we can use them to make our own assessments.

... Jesus christ people are sensitive noone said hes not skilled or different he made a comment about prodigy and I stated rubio was called that as well. It is that simple.

[jason bourne]

I know it’s not an easy question... but am I the only one who thinks Mo Bamba will be better than Ayton?

No, but you like to roll the dice for big money when it's not your money.

[Pachinko_]

... Jesus christ people are sensitive noone said hes not skilled or different he made a comment about prodigy and I stated rubio was called that as well. It is that simple.

Ok? And I said why worry about silly 2nd hand comments when there's such nice data and statistics.


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[GreatWhiteStiff]

So, having read the thread, to answer the OP's question, I think it can safely be said that Ayton is NOT the consensus #1 Overall Draft Choice..

[reload141]

Bamba.

[Pachinko_]

I think Doncic, JJJ, Bagley will probably end up being better players than Ayton.

But I think the Suns should pick Ayton. They just don't need the drama.