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NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22.

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Young
27
16%
Carter
42
25%
Porter
75
44%
Bridges
15
9%
Knox
6
4%
Sexton
5
3%
 
Total votes: 170

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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1681 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:54 pm

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If all the obvious choices are off the board - MPJ is still my pick. I enroll him into some heavy Yoga/Pilates program and hope he loosens up a little. He has so much upside to me. Really kinda hoping the pieces fall into place where we're almost forced to pick him.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1682 » by DuckIII » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:54 pm

Betta Bulleavit wrote:Ah, it's draft week. Tis' the season for agendas and narratives...as far as the eye can see!

Doncic verbalizes that he loves to be "the hero" and nobody bats an eyelash because he's such a loveable darling. Let MPJ say anything close to that and he's a no good chucker that doesn't need to be anywhere near this team with his busted back.



The problem with this is that Doncic's game is very clearly that of an unselfish and team oriented player. I mean, its his actual thing. Whereas Portis' actual thing is shooting and doing nothing else. Context matters to how and why people react to things the way they do.

MPJ likens himself to all-time great players and people react as if he's the first guy in history to do that. Mind you...I am not sold on MPJ by the way. But I find the reaction quite amusing.


And the problem with this is that manner in which Porter did that was completely detached from reality. I mean, he said he likes to drive more than Durant! He has neither the physical ability nor the inclination to be the player he described. After watching the Rose saga unfold, I've learned that confidence is great. Delusion isn't.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1683 » by Peelboy » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:55 pm

OK, if I'm doing it right on the trade checker, looks to me like Bulls have ability to
a) Swap Holiday+Felicio for Parsons (presumably 7 for 4). Saves Memphis bigtime $$. https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7072910

b) Swap Kilpatrick+Zipser for Faried (presumably 22 for 14). Both Kil and Zip are waivable. Catch is can't trade Kil until 6/26.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1684 » by AKfanatic » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:55 pm

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Answering that question would be easier if he posted a video of Bagley actually dancing...
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1685 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:57 pm

DuckIII wrote:
Betta Bulleavit wrote:Ah, it's draft week. Tis' the season for agendas and narratives...as far as the eye can see!

Doncic verbalizes that he loves to be "the hero" and nobody bats an eyelash because he's such a loveable darling. Let MPJ say anything close to that and he's a no good chucker that doesn't need to be anywhere near this team with his busted back.



The problem with this is that Doncic's game is very clearly that of an unselfish and team oriented player. I mean, its his actual thing. Whereas Portis' actual thing is shooting and doing nothing else. Context matters to how and why people react to things the way they do.

MPJ likens himself to all-time great players and people react as if he's the first guy in history to do that. Mind you...I am not sold on MPJ by the way. But I find the reaction quite amusing.


And the problem with this is that manner in which Porter did that was completely detached from reality. I mean, he said he likes to drive more than Durant! He has neither the physical ability nor the inclination to be the player he described. After watching the Rose saga unfold, I've learned that confidence is great. Delusion isn't.


It's really not delusional for him to think that. He averaged 37 PPG and was the #1 HS prospect going into college. I agree that to us it's quite the stretch. But at his level- and probably for all top prospects, I dont know why we would expect them to think less.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1686 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:57 pm

For those hoping for a Don Luka trade, I'm with you. The problem is, the amount of assets you have to be willing to move up to #2 or #3, I'm not sure Pax would be willing to give up. You're talking 4-5 assets at a minimum.

Do I think he's worth it? Yes, but it also depends on what you're giving up.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1687 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:57 pm

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I can’t wait to find out whether MPJ is being problematic on purpose or by accident. The suspense is killing me.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1688 » by aramada » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:58 pm

I'd only trade up to get JJJ or Doncic. Not Bamba, Carter, or MPJ. If we stay at 7, I hope someone falls in love with MPJ or Young so one of Bagley, Bamba, Carter falls to us.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1689 » by Payt10 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:58 pm

tunit213 wrote:
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holv03 wrote:It's looking like John Paxson might hit another buzzer beater today to seal a victory. Things are starting to get interesting.



There you have it!!! Tell us more!!!


I just hope we keep the 22nd pick if we trade up with the Grizz. We have a good chance of inserting 2 very needed starters at SF/C.

You know that's not going to happen. The Bulls are so easily enticed to throw in those extra little side picks without much resistance.

With Parsons contract, you could see the motivation for the Bulls to get rid of the pick so they could save money.

I'd be upset, but if they're still able to land Mo Bamba, It'll make the pill much easier to swallow.
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Post#1690 » by Ctownbulls » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:00 pm

If the Bulls do anything well it is tipping their hands as to who they like and giving up a little something extra after they have lost the leverage.

If they are really infatuated with someone and want to move up a few spots lets see if they can do it without overpaying.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1691 » by bennjuiced34 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:00 pm

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This been posted yet? I mean it's not surprising but it's another reason I want no part of Porter
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1692 » by aguifs » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:01 pm

Jello Biafra wrote:
JimmyJammer wrote:
Dresden wrote:
Good post, although you wonder what the influx of so many talented big men in this year's draft may do to change the role of the big man in the nba.

It would not shock me if PHO did not take Ayton #1,and instead went Bagley or Doncic.

McGee did play more than 3 minutes in the finals though. Maybe you are talking about the final game?


There is a new breed of big men coming up who are going to blow the game open. They can guard and score on the perimeter and down low. While I am rooting hard for the Bulls to draft Porter, I can definitely get behind Bamba. Both Bamba and Lauri can guard on the perimeter, the pick and roll, and inside.


Great. Bamba's upside is Mutombo. Why would the Bull's move up in the draft to get a one dimensional guy when that dimension is strictly rim protection. He's not a low post defender. He gets pushed around like Bagley. He has offensive game, perimeter or otherwise. Ok, he can score on lobs or against his 46 year old agent in youtube videos. I can't see what makes him so different than Nerlens Noel or Thon Maker. By the way, you can sign a Mutombo or a close facsimile thereto for cheap. It would be a complete waste if the Bull's drafted Bamba.



I totally agree... In my opinion, we should look for the high risk, high reward option... Bamba, WCJ... It would be all the same, they don't fit the actual game of basketball.

If you have the chance, you pick Doncic or MPJ...
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1693 » by thewraith » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:01 pm

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Twin towers that can shoot 3's and defend? We're not talking about Curry and Chandler here.
Outside of Jackson I don't see the big that can shoot right away. Bamba shot the ball doesn't make him a shooter to me. Unless you're only talking JJJ I disagree that these other bigs can really shoot currently. I've saw the gym workouts but I've played with top level guys from pros and college and them making open shots are nothing to me. Heck if you ever goto a game early watch how easy it is for most of,those players to drain shot after shot during warmups. In the games its a different story.


The difference is floor spacing. Regardless at what clip Bamba and JJJ can hit 3's they will space the floor and can dribble to the hoop. Those are things traditional big men couldn't do.
You can't space the floor if players don't think your shot is any good out there. They might not let Bamba shoot it wide open and show some token pressure but it won't even be Lauri close outs on Bamba J. JJJ might get that because he actually can make them at a better clip to this point. I just disagree that Bamba is a floor spacer currently.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1694 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:01 pm

C Bamba
F Markkanen
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G Lavine
G Dunn

So far, I am thrilled with the re-build. Come home to us Mo Bamba.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1695 » by Truebiscuit » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:02 pm

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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1696 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:02 pm

This is how I see it plays out:

PHX - Ayton
Kings - Bagley
ATL - Doncic
Mem - JJJ
Dal - Bamba
Orl - Young
Chi - Porter

We'll have to choose between Porter/WCJ. I hope we go with MPJ
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1697 » by thewraith » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:04 pm

Ctownbulls wrote:If the Bulls do anything well it is tipping their hands as to who they like and giving up a little something extra after they have lost the leverage.

If they are really infatuated with someone and want to move up a few spots lets see if they can do it without overpaying.
I disagree on that because who had them picking Lauri last year? Maybe with Doug but outside of that which picks you think they tipped their hands about?
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1698 » by tunit213 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:04 pm

JimmyJammer wrote:Michael Porter is among four high school players who have ever won the trifecta awards - National High School Player of the Year, Naismith Prep School Player of the Year, Gatorade High School Player of the Year. The other three are Alonzo Mourning, Dwight Howard and LeBron James. This is quite a group to be a part of. So, when Porter says his game is a combination of Durant, McGrady and Antetokoumpo, please allow him to state his case because he is on the trajectory of stardom.


Actually 5th. You forgot Chris Webber. Who was also a stud.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1699 » by Darius Miles Davis » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:04 pm

Gotta admit that if this is what the top 10 ends up looking like, it makes sense for every team:

1) Suns - Ayton
2) Kings - Bagley
3) Hawks - Doncic
4) Bulls - Bamba
5) Mavs - Jackson
6) Magic - Young
7) Grizzlies - Carter + salary relief
8) Cavs - Porter
9) Knicks - Sexton
10) 76ers - Mikal Bridges


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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1700 » by IliketheBullsNBearstoo » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:04 pm

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This been posted yet? I mean it's not surprising but it's another reason I want no part of Porter


Nice! We can get him at 22 then.

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