bwgood77 wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:bwgood77 wrote:
If any team can move up with assets though, I think it's them. Maybe even to Atlanta. They have 4 firsts next year and can offer up Jaylen, Rozier, etc if they want it enough.
The only problem with them, which is a bigger problem for us, is, they don't have a good pick to give him this year unless someone puts a high value on 16, but then again, it would require a future pick or two from us I think....but we don't have a really good enticing player to throw in there...maybe if we considered Jackson but probably not.
Boston's future picks aren't as good as they seem. Memphis's could be but not if they surrender it next year by finishing outside the top 9 in the reverse standings.
I think the "good luck with that" part is more about getting to keep pick 4 while also not having to take Parsons. There is like 2 teams who could absorb Parsons and I don't understand why they would do that while not getting the best asset involved in the deal, which is pick 4.
The Kings pick looks pretty good to me...it's top 1 protected. The others might end up protected but would roll over. That Kings pick is a premier asset. By far better.
But we can't absorb Parsons either. We can't absorb much right now...we'd have to send out a couple of players.
Even if they dump Parsons they don't create more cap space for themselves being over the cap by 17 million or so....they would get under by 7 million and lose the MLE, which is bigger than the cap space it creates.
The Kings pick is valuable, but the rest aren't. The Clippers pick is not going to be good absent them blowing it up. Guys like Harris are still improving.
The Memphis pick only becomes valuable if it does in fact roll over. It is not reverse protected though. That is why Memphis wants to win now--they want the pick gone this next draft, which is weak, and they still have Conley and Gasol so should be able to accomplish that barring health. All it takes is for them to finish out of the bottom 9 and that pick becomes not great value. The 10th pick in this next draft should have nowhere near the value as in this draft. If they don't win enough though, then the weaker protections kick in and that pick actually does become valuable, because they are built around 2 old players who are declining and the draft gets better in 2020 and 2021.
Point being, we ought to be able to beat Boston's offer (at least from a picks perspective. Maybe not from player if they are throwing in Tatum or Irving or something), because we can include our own picks, which ought to be more valuable than the Clipper and Memphis picks, and we can include unprotected 1sts in better drafts (Miami, and potentially Milwaukee). Boston's own picks are valueless.
Really we're just talking about the Kings pick here, so it would depend on if Memphis preferred a top 10 pick in next draft (that is the reasonable expectation with the new lottery imo, and the Kings were 7th this year in reverse and are young) versus our own future picks. I think a team like Memphis would prefer the 16th pick in this draft, and 1-2 of our own future picks. And for me I would do that for Doncic or Young.