[2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36

[DOT]

Grizzlies in talks with "multiple teams"

Seems like quite a few other teams can offer more cap relief or better players or a better combination. Once I read that I instantly took the Knicks out of the running in my mind. It's just easier that way. Knicks never come through in situations like this.

It's probably closer than you think

The Knicks are 5th in most cap space right now (and that's including Kanter, not including KOQ's cap hold which is 3 million more), with only the Hawks, Kings, and Suns ahead of us for lotto teams, and those 3 all have a higher pick than Memphis

If you include how much they could potentially open up this summer, the Bulls, Magic, and Mavs are there, but of those 3 only the Bulls could fully absorb Parsons

We could probably make an offer on par with any of those teams, depending on who the Grizzlies would want to trade down for. If it's someone like Mikal who probably has the highest floor out of anyone, there's a good chance he's available at 9, so it really at that point depends on how much they like Lee and Burke

What I'm saying is, I don't know and nobody will for another 12 ish hours

[semjazy]

You're also not the one cutting the checks

Not every team is the Knicks and just has gobs of money lying around

Small market teams have to be frugal sometimes

Sure, that is why I don't understand why they would be intrested in remaining 2 years 12 milion $ per year of Lee

Because it's half of Parson's contract, and you get a player that can actually contribute to a winning team?

I still think that if that trade really happen, we would send Lee + Lance to third team. I'm sure that there are teams that can offer more than Lee for Parsons exchange for that pick. Lee is solid but nowhere near valuable enough to justify that trade

[DOT]

Sure, that is why I don't understand why they would be intrested in remaining 2 years 12 milion $ per year of Lee

Because it's half of Parson's contract, and you get a player that can actually contribute to a winning team?

I still think that if that trade relly happen, we would send Lee + Lance to third team. I'm sure that there are teams that can offer more than Lee for Parsons exchange for that pick. Lee is solid but nowhere near valuable enough to justify that trade

When did I say it was just Lee?

My starting point has always been Lee, LFT, Dotson, Burke, and 9

[King of Canada]

IMHO in that case they don't have to trade 4th pick, they can just trade future draft pick + Parsons for Lee

But who is going to eat $50mill for a random future pick? The chances of Memphis being top 4 bad next year are pretty slim, also considering they want the improve?

Yes, they want to improve, but 9th + Lee + Lance + resign Tyreke it's not improvement worth 4th pick in good draft

*It is if we’re the only taker in picks 5 to 9 and they have a target in the 9 range (hoping for a porter drop?).

Also, I have to wonder if the Knicks have offered a trade at the beginning of FA. Either they move Kanter if he opts in or use his cap space. Something like 9, Kanter, and 36 or Kanter’s space plus 9 and filler.

[semjazy]

Because it's half of Parson's contract, and you get a player that can actually contribute to a winning team?

I still think that if that trade relly happen, we would send Lee + Lance to third team. I'm sure that there are teams that can offer more than Lee for Parsons exchange for that pick. Lee is solid but nowhere near valuable enough to justify that trade

When did I say it was just Lee?

My starting point has always been Lee, LFT, Dotson, Burke, and 9

Sure but LFT and Dotson are just a fillers in my opinion. So it's Lee, Burke, 9 for Parsons, 4. Feels like a bad trade from Grizzlies perspective. They would be better of with buying out Parsons, so they can retain player of JJJ potential. I would be happy if your trade would happen, but I still think that Grizz would be more intrested with sheer capspace + 9th, than those players + 9th

[DOT]

I still think that if that trade relly happen, we would send Lee + Lance to third team. I'm sure that there are teams that can offer more than Lee for Parsons exchange for that pick. Lee is solid but nowhere near valuable enough to justify that trade

When did I say it was just Lee?

My starting point has always been Lee, LFT, Dotson, Burke, and 9

Sure but LFT and Dotson are just a fillers in my opinion. So it's Lee, Burke, 9 for Parsons, 4. Feels like a bad trade from Grizzlies perspective. They would be better of with buying out Parsons, so they can retain player of JJJ potential. I would be happy if your trade would happen, but I still think that Grizz would be more intrested with sheer capspace + 9th, than those players + 9th

But the Grizzlies are trying to compete right now is what you're not getting

You're looking at them as a rebuilding team, when they want to have another go at it with Conley/Gasol. So buying out Parsons is off the table, and considering that even if they shed Parsons for nothing, they'd have less than 10 million in cap space this offseason, which is barely enough for a good bench player nowadays, and they'd still have to pay Tyreke. They want players, preferably cheap, more than cap space

[semjazy]

When did I say it was just Lee?

My starting point has always been Lee, LFT, Dotson, Burke, and 9

Sure but LFT and Dotson are just a fillers in my opinion. So it's Lee, Burke, 9 for Parsons, 4. Feels like a bad trade from Grizzlies perspective. They would be better of with buying out Parsons, so they can retain player of JJJ potential. I would be happy if your trade would happen, but I still think that Grizz would be more intrested with sheer capspace + 9th, than those players + 9th

But the Grizzlies are trying to compete right now is what you're not getting

You're looking at them as a rebuilding team, when they want to have another go at it with Conley/Gasol. So buying out Parsons is off the table, and considering that even if they shed Parsons for nothing, they'd have less than 10 million in cap space this offseason, which is barely enough for a good bench player nowadays, and they'd still have to pay Tyreke. They want players, preferably cheap, more than cap space

It's more that I don't know how is Lee going to help them to compete. He is barely good bench player and I think that they can sign better player than him through free agency, or at least younger player with similar impact.

[WajaBawl]

Sure but LFT and Dotson are just a fillers in my opinion. So it's Lee, Burke, 9 for Parsons, 4. Feels like a bad trade from Grizzlies perspective. They would be better of with buying out Parsons, so they can retain player of JJJ potential. I would be happy if your trade would happen, but I still think that Grizz would be more intrested with sheer capspace + 9th, than those players + 9th

But the Grizzlies are trying to compete right now is what you're not getting

You're looking at them as a rebuilding team, when they want to have another go at it with Conley/Gasol. So buying out Parsons is off the table, and considering that even if they shed Parsons for nothing, they'd have less than 10 million in cap space this offseason, which is barely enough for a good bench player nowadays, and they'd still have to pay Tyreke. They want players, preferably cheap, more than cap space

It's more that I don't know how is Lee going to help them to compete. He is barely good bench player and I think that they can sign better player than him through free agency, or at least younger player with similar impact.

What?? Tf u talkin bout? He was a quality starter for us last year and shot well from the floor, while also providing respectable defense. How is that "barely a good bench player"?

[CDAZ]

Sure but LFT and Dotson are just a fillers in my opinion. So it's Lee, Burke, 9 for Parsons, 4. Feels like a bad trade from Grizzlies perspective. They would be better of with buying out Parsons, so they can retain player of JJJ potential. I would be happy if your trade would happen, but I still think that Grizz would be more intrested with sheer capspace + 9th, than those players + 9th

But the Grizzlies are trying to compete right now is what you're not getting

You're looking at them as a rebuilding team, when they want to have another go at it with Conley/Gasol. So buying out Parsons is off the table, and considering that even if they shed Parsons for nothing, they'd have less than 10 million in cap space this offseason, which is barely enough for a good bench player nowadays, and they'd still have to pay Tyreke. They want players, preferably cheap, more than cap space

It's more that I don't know how is Lee going to help them to compete. He is barely good bench player and I think that they can sign better player than him through free agency, or at least younger player with similar impact.

But Lee had one of his best seasons last year.........

[thebuzzardman]

Grizzlies in talks with "multiple teams"

Seems like quite a few other teams can offer more cap relief or better players or a better combination. Once I read that I instantly took the Knicks out of the running in my mind. It's just easier that way. Knicks never come through in situations like this.

It's probably closer than you think

The Knicks are 5th in most cap space right now (and that's including Kanter, not including KOQ's cap hold which is 3 million more), with only the Hawks, Kings, and Suns ahead of us for lotto teams, and those 3 all have a higher pick than Memphis

If you include how much they could potentially open up this summer, the Bulls, Magic, and Mavs are there, but of those 3 only the Bulls could fully absorb Parsons

We could probably make an offer on par with any of those teams, depending on who the Grizzlies would want to trade down for. If it's someone like Mikal who probably has the highest floor out of anyone, there's a good chance he's available at 9, so it really at that point depends on how much they like Lee and Burke

What I'm saying is, I don't know and nobody will for another 12 ish hours

Knicks can offer better players than the Suns or Nuggets or Bulls? No way.

Edge Suns, Bulls and Nuggets on young talent

I'd assume the Suns aren't looked to add the 4th pick to the 1st

Edge Bulls in space

I'd say edge Bulls overall

[Fat Kat]

Sexton’s gonna be a bust. Book it

[JBreezeNY]

I’m kind of intrigued by the amount of posters that don’t want to let go of the #9 pick.

I completely understand the POV of having the #9 plus acquiring the #4 but realistically that’s not going to happen.

Can it?

If we’re going based off of trade value for the assets we currently have, KP would be scorching hot, Frank would be a simmering second and Lee/Hardaway would be a mellow third.

KP most likely is off the board, especially because a trade involving him wouldn’t just get us the #4 pick it would land us with any of the picks 1-5. Porzingis honestly is better than all of the prospects this year except maybe (keyword maybe) Doncic.

Frank is a curious case, he’s easy to sell because of his height, his incredible defensive ability, his age & his two way potential. If the Knicks really fall in love with Doncic or Bamba then they’re trading Frank. Maybe I just don’t see the big deal in giving up the 9th pick to move up but the same way I feel that KP is better than most of the draft, I feel that way with Bamba & Doncic being better than Frank.

Like Capn mentioned, JJJ would be a PERFECT fit next to KP & someone I hope management is keeping their eye on just in case we move up. If we have the chance to get either JJJ, Bamba or Doncic and all we have to give up is Frank & #9, you get that deal done immediately.

If the Grizzlies want us to take on Parsons they gotta give us another pick.

Time for Knicks to grow some balls and learn how to negotiate to get more assets. That’s how the Celtics were able to get over on Brooklyn.

[TTorelli]

Not saying I would do it but I could see the Grizz asking for #9, Frank, and Noah. Noah only in there as a cap filler and because he has one less year remaining than Parsons

[ForzaMetro]

Woj on espn right now just said Knicks have not yet asked for Bamba’s medicals and he expects them to stay at 9 where they are comfortable with their options

[JBreezeNY]

Not saying I would do it but I could see the Grizz asking for #9, Frank, and Noah. Noah only in there as a cap filler and because he has one less year remaining than Parsons

If that’s what they want I’ll throw in some edibles on the House.

Get it done PerryMills

[SARGO127]

YAh woj just said we probably stay at 9 and take Knox or Bridges

[Jalen Bluntson]

Not saying I would do it but I could see the Grizz asking for #9, Frank, and Noah. Noah only in there as a cap filler and because he has one less year remaining than Parsons

Except Noah and Parsons have 2 years each left on their contracts. 6mil per less for Noah.

[semjazy]

But the Grizzlies are trying to compete right now is what you're not getting

You're looking at them as a rebuilding team, when they want to have another go at it with Conley/Gasol. So buying out Parsons is off the table, and considering that even if they shed Parsons for nothing, they'd have less than 10 million in cap space this offseason, which is barely enough for a good bench player nowadays, and they'd still have to pay Tyreke. They want players, preferably cheap, more than cap space

It's more that I don't know how is Lee going to help them to compete. He is barely good bench player and I think that they can sign better player than him through free agency, or at least younger player with similar impact.

What?? Tf u talkin bout? He was a quality starter for us last year and shot well from the floor, while also providing respectable defense. How is that "barely a good bench player"?

Ok, mayby I went too far, but he is at most good role player. I think player selected in 4th would have better season than him. We talking about guys like Bagley, JJJ or even Dončić. So Grizzlies would trade young guy with huge potential for cap relief, good role player, point guard with one good season on expiring contract, couple fillers and 9th pick, which would allow them to draft guy who is more a project, with floor much lower than JJJ, Dončić or Bagley.

[N Y K]

Woj on espn right now just said Knicks have not yet asked for Bamba’s medicals and he expects them to stay at 9 where they are comfortable with their options

I blame all of you

[DOT]

Grizzlies in talks with "multiple teams"

Seems like quite a few other teams can offer more cap relief or better players or a better combination. Once I read that I instantly took the Knicks out of the running in my mind. It's just easier that way. Knicks never come through in situations like this.

It's probably closer than you think

The Knicks are 5th in most cap space right now (and that's including Kanter, not including KOQ's cap hold which is 3 million more), with only the Hawks, Kings, and Suns ahead of us for lotto teams, and those 3 all have a higher pick than Memphis

If you include how much they could potentially open up this summer, the Bulls, Magic, and Mavs are there, but of those 3 only the Bulls could fully absorb Parsons

We could probably make an offer on par with any of those teams, depending on who the Grizzlies would want to trade down for. If it's someone like Mikal who probably has the highest floor out of anyone, there's a good chance he's available at 9, so it really at that point depends on how much they like Lee and Burke

What I'm saying is, I don't know and nobody will for another 12 ish hours

Knicks can offer better players than the Suns or Nuggets or Bulls? No way.

Edge Suns, Bulls and Nuggets on young talent

I'd assume the Suns aren't looked to add the 4th pick to the 1st

Edge Bulls in space

I'd say edge Bulls overall

I don't think the Nuggets are really that interested, the report of them wanting to trade 14 to get rid of Faried means to me they'd rather have cap space than picks

The Suns and Bulls might have better young talent, but I don't think they're that much better of trade partners for Memphis than us

Suns are probably out of the picture, as the Grizzlies are looking to trade back, but not all the way out of the lotto like the Suns 2nd 1st rounder, and 1 is off the table. In terms of players, they don't really have much there either. TJ Warren and Alex Len are decent, but both are due extensions this year, Booker and Jackson are off the table, and it doesn't make sense for the Grizzlies to acquire Chandler, and all their other players suck

Bulls are definitely in play, but they're really high on Carter Jr and Porter Jr, one of whom will most definitely be there at 7, so they don't really have a huge incentive to move up. They can definitely offer better vets and LaVine is a better prospect than anything we're offering, so if they wanted to, they could definitely outbid us. Really just depends on who the Bulls want and how the draft shakes out