Wendell Carter Jr - The Block Panther Edition

[TheSuzerain]

Under-rated thought of the evening:

Bulls have 3 very good PF / C's together making about 10 Million dollars next season.

That's very significant. You're getting 2 positions covered with 2-way players for rookie scale salaries.

Now look at what we're paying the other PF/C's.

[TheJordanRule]

Under-rated thought of the evening:

Bulls have 3 very good PF / C's together making about 10 Million dollars next season.

That's very significant. You're getting 2 positions covered with 2-way players for rookie scale salaries.

It's a bit more complicated than that, Musiq. We have an additional 20 million total invested in the dead weight that is Asik and Felicio next year, and Bobby is going to cost considerably more next season if we want to keep him. Now that WCJ is in the fold we should probably find a way to deal the trash away even if it costs us Bobby.

[musiqsoulchild]

Under-rated thought of the evening:

Bulls have 3 very good PF / C's together making about 10 Million dollars next season.

That's very significant. You're getting 2 positions covered with 2-way players for rookie scale salaries.

Portis is a two way player?

He is. Future rotation of the Bulls frontcourt:

Year 1:
Lauri / Portis
Lopez / Wendell / Felicio

Year 2:
Lauri / Portis
Wendell / Portis / Felicio

I think we will have the option to trade Portis all of next year. And if we get a good offer , I think we'll bite.

[logical_art]

Portis is an awful defensive player.

Please stop.

[musiqsoulchild]

Under-rated thought of the evening:

Bulls have 3 very good PF / C's together making about 10 Million dollars next season.

That's very significant. You're getting 2 positions covered with 2-way players for rookie scale salaries.

It's a bit more complicated than that, Musiq. We have an additional 20 million total invested in the dead weight that is Asik and Felicio next year, and Bobby is going to cost considerably more next season if we want to keep him. Now that WCJ is in the fold we should probably find a way to deal the trash away even if it costs us Bobby.

It's not though. Asik is only a 3 Million hit on the cap. Felicio will be in Yr3, with only 1 year left on his contract.

And we get to use Mark Bartlestein's good graces and have Porter signed here for a long time on a nice contract along with his other client Chandler Hutchison.

Asik is a non-factor. He's just Jimmy salary. We took him on and created another 11 Million dollar TPE that we get to use until the All-Star break next season. So, we could absorb a decent player into it.

Felicio - well, last season wasn't good for him. But his cap hit is low. And he only has 3 seasons left on his deal.

The real question is if we keep Lopez for this season. I think we should.

[musiqsoulchild]

Under-rated thought of the evening:

Bulls have 3 very good PF / C's together making about 10 Million dollars next season.

That's very significant. You're getting 2 positions covered with 2-way players for rookie scale salaries.

It's a bit more complicated than that, Musiq. We have an additional 20 million total invested in the dead weight that is Asik and Felicio next year, and Bobby is going to cost considerably more next season if we want to keep him. Now that WCJ is in the fold we should probably find a way to deal the trash away even if it costs us Bobby.

The latter part of your post about trading Portis right before he needs to be re-upped:

I agree with that concept. And I have another post saying as much. Then Felicio actually becomes important as 3rd stringer on PF-C.

Lauri / Draft / Felicio
Wendell / FA / Felicio

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Here's a glimpse of how highly Dallas thought of Carter going into the draft. In the end, of course, they made their move for Doncic and got him. But they had to give up next year's 1st round pick. Should the Bulls have done that? Maybe. In any case, the following is interesting and encouraging for Carter fans.

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-mavericks/mavericks/2018/06/17/best-wendell-carters-highlights-watch-mavs-prospect-pull-crazy-5-point-play

[mrlancers]

I have an unhealthy problem with watching those HGTV rehab shows.

I feel like it's a fairly apt comparison to the NBA draft. I think fans and GMs fall in love with potential. It's not what you see. It's what you can imagine it becomes.

If you take a house that has to be completely gutted, the idea is that you can sort of mold it into exactly what you want. Problem is that it takes a lot of time and there could be a bunch of setbacks and hiccups that eventually doom that project.

Now if you have a house with a good foundation and is largely in good shape, most of the adjustments are merely cosmetic and are quicker to finish.

Teams like Orlando and Sacramento for years have followed the philosophy of the former. We're STILL trying to figure out if Aaron Gordon is still developing into an All-Star, but now he's a RFA and he might command 15 to 20 million annually for up to 4 years.

The Bulls, for all the grief they get from us, prefer the latter. The one time they took a risk they gave up a prospect (Aldridge) that most scouts knew what he would become for a prospect (Thomas) that had nothing but upside and potential. We all know that story went.

For me, it's not about hitting 'home runs' because for every Giannis, there's dozens and dozens of Stromiles. You can't miss these types of picks if you want to build a championship team. Good players can always be flipped for better players when the opportunity presents itself. I'm quite content with Carter at 7.

[SOUL]

I watched a lot of Carter Jr. highlights and I really like the kid. Think he will be better than Bagley and can do a bit of everything out there. Yeah, maybe his upside isn't as high as some of the other high lotto picks, but I feel like he will recognize his talents and that's half the battle in the league.. what is upside if most of these dudes won't ever reach it.

[nomorezorro]

Lauri / Portis
Lopez / Wendell / Felicio

this is very plainly a dumb frontcourt rotation for a rebuilding team to run out.

young guy in a contract year competing for minutes with your best young player
veteran who's in a walk year competing for minutes with the guy you just drafted at #7
center still owed 24 million buried on the bench

lopez has to go. absolutely has to. portis should be on the block, too.

[TheJordanRule]

Under-rated thought of the evening:

Bulls have 3 very good PF / C's together making about 10 Million dollars next season.

That's very significant. You're getting 2 positions covered with 2-way players for rookie scale salaries.

It's a bit more complicated than that, Musiq. We have an additional 20 million total invested in the dead weight that is Asik and Felicio next year, and Bobby is going to cost considerably more next season if we want to keep him. Now that WCJ is in the fold we should probably find a way to deal the trash away even if it costs us Bobby.

It's not though. Asik is only a 3 Million hit on the cap. Felicio will be in Yr3, with only 1 year left on his contract.

And we get to use Mark Bartlestein's good graces and have Porter signed here for a long time on a nice contract along with his other client Chandler Hutchison.

Asik is a non-factor. He's just Jimmy salary. We took him on and created another 11 Million dollar TPE that we get to use until the All-Star break next season. So, we could absorb a decent player into it.

Felicio - well, last season wasn't good for him. But his cap hit is low. And he only has 3 seasons left on his deal.

The real question is if we keep Lopez for this season. I think we should.

Very intriguing and quite brilliant. I thought Omer had an 11 Mil cap hit. How does a 3 million cap hit on an 11 mil per year salary with an ETO for the same player work? Didn't realize we had a TPE over 11 Mil either. Bananas!

[TheJordanRule]

Under-rated thought of the evening:

Bulls have 3 very good PF / C's together making about 10 Million dollars next season.

That's very significant. You're getting 2 positions covered with 2-way players for rookie scale salaries.

It's a bit more complicated than that, Musiq. We have an additional 20 million total invested in the dead weight that is Asik and Felicio next year, and Bobby is going to cost considerably more next season if we want to keep him. Now that WCJ is in the fold we should probably find a way to deal the trash away even if it costs us Bobby.

The latter part of your post about trading Portis right before he needs to be re-upped:

I agree with that concept. And I have another post saying as much. Then Felicio actually becomes important as 3rd stringer on PF-C.

Lauri / Draft / Felicio
Wendell / FA / Felicio

Sounds good.

Lauri, Wendell and Vonleh at a modest salary works for me. That would legit be three young stretch bigs who have skills and can develop together.

[musiqsoulchild]

It's a bit more complicated than that, Musiq. We have an additional 20 million total invested in the dead weight that is Asik and Felicio next year, and Bobby is going to cost considerably more next season if we want to keep him. Now that WCJ is in the fold we should probably find a way to deal the trash away even if it costs us Bobby.

It's not though. Asik is only a 3 Million hit on the cap. Felicio will be in Yr3, with only 1 year left on his contract.

And we get to use Mark Bartlestein's good graces and have Porter signed here for a long time on a nice contract along with his other client Chandler Hutchison.

Asik is a non-factor. He's just Jimmy salary. We took him on and created another 11 Million dollar TPE that we get to use until the All-Star break next season. So, we could absorb a decent player into it.

Felicio - well, last season wasn't good for him. But his cap hit is low. And he only has 3 seasons left on his deal.

The real question is if we keep Lopez for this season. I think we should.

Very intriguing and quite brilliant. I thought Omer had an 11 Mil cap hit. How does a 3 million cap hit on an 11 mil per year salary with an ETO for the same player work? Didn't realize we had a TPE over 11 Mil either. Bananas!

Only 3 Million of his 11.5 Million is guaranteed next season.

So, he is basically an expiring contract this season.

Think for example: Lopez + Asik = 25 Million in expiring contracts. In theory that's not true, but in practice this is ABSOLUTELY the case.

Reason:
Only a minimal 3 Million a team has to pay in the next season for Asik.

This has massive implications for a team like Chicago, if they want to absorb bad contracts but good players.

Nic Batum for example. Or, Ryan Anderson.

[musiqsoulchild]

Under-rated thought of the evening:

Bulls have 3 very good PF / C's together making about 10 Million dollars next season.

That's very significant. You're getting 2 positions covered with 2-way players for rookie scale salaries.

Now look at what we're paying the other PF/C's.

Think about the future. That's what draft night is for.

[Dankoz]

Absolutely terrible pick. I don't have any idea what our front office is thinking by picking another big shooter who doesn't play defense. We have huge weakness at every other spot but somehow we are taking stretch big once again. Well done!!

[Chitownbulls]

Tons of free agent centers available an we draft Wendell?


Bulls FO dont want to strike out in free agency

[League Circles]

Good read, written by the kid:

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/wendell-carter-jr-ready-to-fly

Thanks for posting. This is a must-read. I really really really like this guy.

[Mbrahv0528]

Absolutely terrible pick. I don't have any idea what our front office is thinking by picking another big shooter who doesn't play defense. We have huge weakness at every other spot but somehow we are taking stretch big once again. Well done!!

WCJ plays defense though. What the hell are you on about?

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[DuckIII]

Absolutely terrible pick. I don't have any idea what our front office is thinking by picking another big shooter who doesn't play defense. We have huge weakness at every other spot but somehow we are taking stretch big once again. Well done!!

1. Lauri plays defense. Good defense. Very good even. Not great, but he’s plus.

2. Carter is a plus defender as well. In theory. He’s not Bagley.

3. Carter can shoot the 3, but he’s not a “stretch” big. Interior offense is his bread and butter, but he is a credible threat to shoot from the outside.

[DuckIII]

Tons of free agent centers available an we draft Wendell?


Bulls FO dont want to strike out in free agency

The Bulls FO has no intention of being a player at all in free agency this summer. Nor should they.