Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread

[atlantabbq99]

This is an epic fail. This is the type of bonehead dumb move that gets GM fired and run out of the NBA.

[HMFFL]

The only reason Oklahoma had any success this season was because of Young.
The team is that bad and he is that good. I favor big men first but Young will be a fine talent for us and one that we can build on.
At least his ankles are not made of glass!

Once he hits the weight room everything will be good.

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[jayu70]

Oh yeah, and Huerter is out 3 months after tendon surgery in shooting hand.

[MaceCase]

Don't see how Doncic can transform Dallas by himself. Most of the top rookies went out West so that's other improved lotto teams not to mention if LeBron goes out to LA too then that's another improved lotto team. Dallas may have cap but who is their best bet in free agency? Cousins who has never won jack and coming off an achilles injury? Then of course they are likely going to cater to Dirk's farewell tour rather than DNP him.

Bagley and Trae were the two prospects I didn't want the Hawks to draft but Doncic was anchoring that trio with my concerns over his game translating. I reconciled it with at worst he'd be a multi-positional, multi-faceted player. Hilarious that Schlenk drafted a guy at 19 that's compared to Mike Miller because that's one of the guys I had Doncic pegged as.

[Geaux_Hawks]

A lot of overreacting in here. As its been mentioned, Trae WAS OU. He literally willed that team from being blown out, to winning games. You thought Curry was king of the Half court shots?! Young was making it look just as easy.

We're not even accounting the fact that he can actually blow by a defender, which is something Luka always had struggles with against more athletic and long guys.

Huerter will be fine. It's a simple surgery. It's not like he broke his hand. It's not like he's going to be asked to carry the team anyway. Spellman will be a bench piece. Some says he's Adrian Payne, but he's got a much higher skill set than him.

This draft is much better than most are willing to accept it to be. Doncic might have been the "most pro ready" prospect, but that doesn't mean he will emerge as one of the best prospects from this draft.

[Radioblacktive1]

Really appreciate the optimism. I don’t think our night was that bad on paper either especially considering everyone I wanted after #3 was gone. I am disappointed that we didn’t move up but I’m still not ruling out the slim chance of one of these late picks being strapped to Schroeder as they move elsewhere. I can’t necessarily blame for Schlenk for trying to create the Warriors, I mean it’s not like that’s a bad source of inspiration.

My guess is that Schlenk hired a defensive minded coach like Lloyd Pierce so that he can draft guys with established offensive skills and have Coach develop their defensive tendencies from the ground up, ensuring a slow rebuild with cohesive defensive system. That’s how I’m looking at it.

And if I’m honest, as much as I love Trae, I hope his heart and mind are tough because I won’t pretend that I don’t understand people’s concerns and I hope he just turns the disappointment from the fans into motivation to shock the world Porzingis style. Yes, of course Doncic is gonna be great but that doesn’t mean Young won’t be great as well. History doesn’t always repeat itself. And if we’re keeping the comparison going, Curry didn’t become CURRY until like what 2012? And much of his early years he had a chucker named Monta Ellis kinda in his way, no? Young can come in and be given the keys/greenlight immediately so who knows, maybe he reaches a high level faster than Steph. At least we can be confident in him as a playmaker. I’m just ready for Summer League.

[djjob23]

A lot of overreacting in here. As its been mentioned, Trae WAS OU. He literally willed that team from being blown out, to winning games. You thought Curry was king of the Half court shots?! Young was making it look just as easy.

We're not even accounting the fact that he can actually blow by a defender, which is something Luka always had struggles with against more athletic and long guys.

Huerter will be fine. It's a simple surgery. It's not like he broke his hand. It's not like he's going to be asked to carry the team anyway. Spellman will be a bench piece. Some says he's Adrian Payne, but he's got a much higher skill set than him.

This draft is much better than most are willing to accept it to be. Doncic might have been the "most pro ready" prospect, but that doesn't mean he will emerge as one of the best prospects from this draft.

Picking Young wasn’t the problem. It was the asset management. Right before the draft, both MPJ AND Young’s stocks were dropping (around 8-10 at the time). We saw MPJ drop to 14! Who’s to say that we couldn’t have drafted up to get Young? Schlenk didn’t want to take that chance.

Young may be that special, but it’s also just as easy to say he was so successful BECAUSE he was OU. Having the coach run all the plays through you and having the green light is bound to make you special. I just hope he can be as successful with plays running through other players. Let’s hope so, or else his floor is far lower than Doncic’s.




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[Geaux_Hawks]

A lot of overreacting in here. As its been mentioned, Trae WAS OU. He literally willed that team from being blown out, to winning games. You thought Curry was king of the Half court shots?! Young was making it look just as easy.

We're not even accounting the fact that he can actually blow by a defender, which is something Luka always had struggles with against more athletic and long guys.

Huerter will be fine. It's a simple surgery. It's not like he broke his hand. It's not like he's going to be asked to carry the team anyway. Spellman will be a bench piece. Some says he's Adrian Payne, but he's got a much higher skill set than him.

This draft is much better than most are willing to accept it to be. Doncic might have been the "most pro ready" prospect, but that doesn't mean he will emerge as one of the best prospects from this draft.

Picking Young wasn’t the problem. It was the asset management. Right before the draft, both MPJ AND Young’s stocks were dropping (around 8-10 at the time). We saw MPJ drop to 14! Who’s to say that we couldn’t have drafted up to get Young? Schlenk didn’t want to take that chance.

Young may be that special, but it’s also just as easy to say he was so successful BECAUSE he was OU. Having the coach run all the plays through you and having the green light is bound to make you special. I just hope he can be as successful with plays running through other players. Let’s hope so, or else his floor is far lower than Doncic’s.




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Schlep got his guy and picked up an asset. To say he mismanaged and got hosed is asinine.

Many are using 2019 being a weak draft as crutch to say schlenk needs to be fired yesterday. In reality, it may not be as deep as 2018, but it has some talent. A likely lottery pick in the top 10 can land you a star or key contributor.

[irfunk_]

I’m a Hawks fan since 2007 from Turkey but i will no longer be a fan of Hawks. Enough is enough. This level of ridiculusness is too much to bear.

[djjob23]

A lot of overreacting in here. As its been mentioned, Trae WAS OU. He literally willed that team from being blown out, to winning games. You thought Curry was king of the Half court shots?! Young was making it look just as easy.

We're not even accounting the fact that he can actually blow by a defender, which is something Luka always had struggles with against more athletic and long guys.

Huerter will be fine. It's a simple surgery. It's not like he broke his hand. It's not like he's going to be asked to carry the team anyway. Spellman will be a bench piece. Some says he's Adrian Payne, but he's got a much higher skill set than him.

This draft is much better than most are willing to accept it to be. Doncic might have been the "most pro ready" prospect, but that doesn't mean he will emerge as one of the best prospects from this draft.

Picking Young wasn’t the problem. It was the asset management. Right before the draft, both MPJ AND Young’s stocks were dropping (around 8-10 at the time). We saw MPJ drop to 14! Who’s to say that we couldn’t have drafted up to get Young? Schlenk didn’t want to take that chance.

Young may be that special, but it’s also just as easy to say he was so successful BECAUSE he was OU. Having the coach run all the plays through you and having the green light is bound to make you special. I just hope he can be as successful with plays running through other players. Let’s hope so, or else his floor is far lower than Doncic’s.




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Schlep got his guy and picked up an asset. To say he mismanaged and got hosed is asinine.

Many are using 2019 being a weak draft as crutch to say schlenk needs to be fired yesterday. In reality, it may not be as deep as 2018, but it has some talent. A likely lottery pick in the top 10 can land you a star or key contributor.

Agreed. We weren’t hosed in the Trade. Only time will tell with that.

The asset management issue was related to having multiple picks in a heavy draft and being linked to multiple teams in regards to trading up using our cap space, but not doing anything.


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[atlantabbq99]

Doncic is getting the same amount and level of hype that Ben Simmons got in LSU and now look how good Simmons is just after one year

[ATL Boy]

It makes me feel better to pretend like we did poorly in the lottery, fell to 5th, and then took Trae Young there without having a chance at Doncic, while the Mavs stayed in their slotted third lottery spot.

In a vacuum taking Young 5th is fine... The extra Mavs pick next year can be gravy.


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[CP War Hawks]

It's 50/50 whether the pick conveys in 2019, that's how bad Dallas will be. I wanna see more details on the restrictions tho.

[jayu70]

It's 50/50 whether the pick conveys in 2019, that's how bad Dallas will be. I wanna see more details on the restrictions tho.

it a 5 year protection:
Top 5 protected in 19/20, top 3 in 21/22, and unprotected in 2023.

[dms269]

I get it, we don't like the deal. Doncic seems like a once a generation talent and we dumped him. Feels a lot like 2001 (trading a top Euro).

I don't hate the deal. Trae can be a very good player. I think it is WAY too early to say that Trae is a bust. If we can move Dennis this year and let Trae start, he can seriously win ROY.

What happens if Doncic busts and Trae booms? There will be a lot of crow to eat.


I really like the Huerta pick. He is a stud shooter and it is needed.



In terms of the protected pick, yes we would have loved an unprotected one, but no one is trading those these days. Yes the draft seems "weak", but you never know.

[atlantabbq99]

The fact that their is a protection on the pick means the Hawks lost on the trade. It should have been an unprotected 2019 pick and a pick swap in 2020, but with even that, I would have kept Doncic over Young.

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[dms269]

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I think Schlenk said in his presser that it was for 2 future, including 2019 and a 2023.

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I think Schlenk said in his presser that it was for 2 future, including 2019 and a 2023.

Noted.

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