Coach of the Year - Dwayne Casey

[7r5ur]

I'm fairly certain we will get those 4 wins on you guys. Lol.

Raptors stock is about to plummet. Should be fun to watch

I'm excited to watch too, but I feel one of us will be disappointed haha.

quality offseason trash talk going on here

[Canadafan]

Raptors stock is about to plummet. Should be fun to watch

I'm excited to watch too, but I feel one of us will be disappointed haha.

quality offseason trash talk going on here

Raptors fans just bother me. Always so overconfident in their franchise when they've won no championships

[yellowknifer]

I never really set much store by awards like this.

But my god, the hate he's getting on the General Board....

I didn't even look at the Raptors board where I'm sure it was much worse, not that that's easy to imagine.

He keeps doing interviews in Canada for some reason. Kind of putting himself in the crosshairs.

He isnt an elite coach in game. But he is excellent at player development and motivation. I think he fits with what the pistons are trying to do. Not sure he is a guy who will win a chip unless he stops being stuborn.

[djsunyc]

:roll: I just don't see it. What great player was lurking on the bench to come in and save the Raptors? He got all he could out of what he had. That's COY X 2, and yeah, Brad Stevens' day is coming. I guess we'll see soon enough if he's a 'buffoon.'

there is a major difference between being expected to win a series and getting swept 2 years in a row.

i didn't expect the raptors to beat the cavs but to be swept two years in a row, especially this year while both indy and celtics pushed them to 7 is a knock on casey's inability to figure out a way to defend them. he was lauded as a defensive coach but put up almost zero resistance to their offense.

also, ujiri forced casey into the new offense this year...and this was the first year in 5 that our offense actually held up in the playoffs and not be horribad iso like it was the previous 4.

casey got alot out of our players but the team constantly underperformed in the playoffs b/c of his offense for the first four years. if we pushed cavs to 6 or 7 this year, he's back. i think it's that simple. being swept again while providing almost zero resistance on the defensive end is unacceptable and that's a big strike against casey.

with all that said - new coach, new team, new org. there is no telling how he will perform in detroit. he could be great, horrible or mediocre. on time will reveal all.

[Yeezus_]

When he refused to go small and match up with the Cavs having Love at the 5. Casey is a great guy but he is so one dimensional with in-game adjustments. He refuses to make changes until he's forced to. He has a weird obsession with playing traditional lineups (especially at the 4/5 position).

Casey was great at motivating the team and ensuring they played hard for 82 games. That will not go unnoticed on the Pistons.

[The_Irony]

anytime your best player says "if LeBron was on our team we'd win" that's a cause for concern and I think it's funny DeRozan gets a pass for that.

as a coach you're not going to win anything when your best players are defeated and intimidated before the tip off. why aren't any of you acknowledging this?

[7r5ur]

When he refused to go small and match up with the Cavs having Love at the 5. Casey is a great guy but he is so one dimensional with in-game adjustments. He refuses to make changes until he's forced to. He has a weird obsession with playing traditional lineups (especially at the 4/5 position).

Funny enough, I used to get so annoyed at how easily SVG cracked under pressure and let opposing coaches dictate his lineups instead of the other way around. Opposing coaches would bring in a softy perimeter player at center and rather than let Andre destroy them on the glass, he'd pull him immediately out of the game for fear of him giving up a three.

[Yeezus_]

When he refused to go small and match up with the Cavs having Love at the 5. Casey is a great guy but he is so one dimensional with in-game adjustments. He refuses to make changes until he's forced to. He has a weird obsession with playing traditional lineups (especially at the 4/5 position).

Funny enough, I used to get so annoyed at how easily SVG cracked under pressure and let opposing coaches dictate his lineups instead of the other way around. Opposing coaches would bring in a softy perimeter player at center and rather than let Andre destroy them on the glass, he'd pull him immediately out of the game for fear of him giving up a three.

It really does depend on situations and how involved the player is on the floor but putting JV on Love is a complete waste. JV was never involved in the offense enough to overcome his defensive shortcomings like that defensively, it drove me crazy.

[hoophabit]

When he refused to go small and match up with the Cavs having Love at the 5. Casey is a great guy but he is so one dimensional with in-game adjustments. He refuses to make changes until he's forced to. He has a weird obsession with playing traditional lineups (especially at the 4/5 position).

Funny enough, I used to get so annoyed at how easily SVG cracked under pressure and let opposing coaches dictate his lineups instead of the other way around. Opposing coaches would bring in a softy perimeter player at center and rather than let Andre destroy them on the glass, he'd pull him immediately out of the game for fear of him giving up a three.

It really does depend on situations and how involved the player is on the floor but putting JV on Love is a complete waste. JV was never involved in the offense enough to overcome his defensive shortcomings like that defensively, it drove me crazy.

All this begs the question, which substitution would have addressed this problem? Coaches coach and players play. Who was going to get the Raptors over the Cavs?

[Yeezus_]

Funny enough, I used to get so annoyed at how easily SVG cracked under pressure and let opposing coaches dictate his lineups instead of the other way around. Opposing coaches would bring in a softy perimeter player at center and rather than let Andre destroy them on the glass, he'd pull him immediately out of the game for fear of him giving up a three.

It really does depend on situations and how involved the player is on the floor but putting JV on Love is a complete waste. JV was never involved in the offense enough to overcome his defensive shortcomings like that defensively, it drove me crazy.

All this begs the question, which substitution would have addressed this problem? Coaches coach and players play. Who was going to get the Raptors over the Cavs?

The argument can be made that we might have not beat the Cavs but regardless we got swept with a defensive scheme that doesn't work.

It's not even that, the biggest issue was his in-game adjustments like I said. You do not keep JV out there with the Cavs playing 5 out and Love at the center, it just doesn't work.

Random scenarios like the game 3 buzzer beater, we didnt trap LeBron full court and make someone else beat us. We literally let him dribble up the court and take a shot. Casey said the plan was to double him full court, but the post game interviews with the players, it was exposed that was never the plan.

Another instance was game 1, and the score was close, an out of timeout play resulted in a 3 being chucked from 30 feet out. The play was designed to bring the ball from the front court. You dont call a play like that when it's a 4 second left on the shot clock out of bounds time out play.

[hoophabit]

It really does depend on situations and how involved the player is on the floor but putting JV on Love is a complete waste. JV was never involved in the offense enough to overcome his defensive shortcomings like that defensively, it drove me crazy.

All this begs the question, which substitution would have addressed this problem? Coaches coach and players play. Who was going to get the Raptors over the Cavs?

The argument can be made that we might have not beat the Cavs but regardless we got swept with a defensive scheme that doesn't work.

It's not even that, the biggest issue was his in-game adjustments like I said. You do not keep JV out there with the Cavs playing 5 out and Love at the center, it just doesn't work.

Random scenarios like the game 3 buzzer beater, we didnt trap LeBron full court and make someone else beat us. We literally let him dribble up the court and take a shot. Casey said the plan was to double him full court, but the post game interviews with the players, it was exposed that was never the plan.

Another instance was game 1, and the score was close, an out of timeout play resulted in a 3 being chucked from 30 feet out. The play was designed to bring the ball from the front court. You dont call a play like that when it's a 4 second left on the shot clock out of bounds time out play.

Yes, but it still comes down to player matchups. Who executed and who didn't. If JV didn't play, who was going to carry the day. I don't know how the Pistons are going to do this coming season. Maybe you guys have a great young coach who's going to take the Raptors to the next level. Toronto has had a steady pattern of improvement under Casey. No denying we could use a little of that. The 'gets the effort' thing appeals to me primarily because of Drummond, although his whole approach changed last season. Steady improvement on his part, and some player growth could push the Pistons out of the doldrums.

[ElectricMayhem]

What I really like about Casey so far: His strength is SVG's weakness. That's trusting and empowering players. Kennard has already spoke about how Casey allows young players to make mistakes. Drummond has been impressed that Casey has been in constant communication with him, and that it has been a two-way street, bouncing ideas off him and asking for input.

“I think he’s going to develop us into great players,” he said. “I’m looking forward to that. He says people make mistakes, but he’s a guy where he can live with some mistakes – but move on and fix it. It does give me some confidence, does make me comfortable with what’s going on. I’m looking forward to it and I’m excited to put that work out here.”

“We communicate at least three or four times a week, shooting ideas at me,” he said. “I’m about to work out with Kevin Garnett this week coming up. He set that up for me. Our conversations have been really organic. I enjoy speaking to him all the time. He always asks me for my input, which is definitely huge for me to just really have my opinion on whatever goes on with the team.”

What scares me about Casey so far: Drummond also said that Casey asked him to practice his corner threes.

“He told me to work on ballhandling, work on the corner three,” Drummond said.

https://www.nba.com/pistons/features/kennard-embraces-caseys-vision-more-time-ball-his-hands

https://www.nba.com/pistons/features/drummond-gives-thumbs-casey-hire-everybodys-excited-it