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Re: NBA Free Agency 

Post#861 » by ViperGTS » Tue Jul 3, 2018 6:52 am

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Good, glad to hear he got a decent contract in a pretty good situation. Avery is one of the good guys.

He is but what's also interesting is the benchmark this sets for Marcus.


Avery can actually shoot though. Knocks about 2-3 AAV off of Smarts potential deal.
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Post#862 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue Jul 3, 2018 7:13 am

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Marvel wrote:
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Good, glad to hear he got a decent contract in a pretty good situation. Avery is one of the good guys.

He is but what's also interesting is the benchmark this sets for Marcus.


Avery can actually shoot though. Knocks about 2-3 AAV off of Smarts potential deal.


Avery is pretty good spot up shooter. And can average 17-18 points on very decent %.

Would love Reke on our bench for the MLE for a year. Would help shore up some of our woes when we're resting guys.
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Post#863 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue Jul 3, 2018 7:46 am

Pat Beverly is still on the market. Any news on what Smart plans to do? Anyone? If Smart ain't coming back bring in Beverly.
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Post#864 » by Roddy » Tue Jul 3, 2018 8:50 am

Dwight Howard still unsigned...I want him in the Lebron superteam !
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Post#865 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue Jul 3, 2018 8:54 am

Roddy wrote:Dwight Howard still unsigned...I want him in the Lebron superteam !


With Javele and Lance :D Add Rondo who's a hot head and there's bound to be a team brawl. :lol: Oh and I forgot LaVar.
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Post#866 » by Bohemian » Tue Jul 3, 2018 8:57 am

Lakers will be lucky if they even advance to the second round of the playoffs in 2019 :lol:
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Post#867 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue Jul 3, 2018 9:05 am

Btw, IT could hepl the Pels if he's healthy. I mean healthy and motivated he's still a mighty scorer.
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Post#868 » by CelticsLV » Tue Jul 3, 2018 10:15 am

Rondo joining Lakers to play with LeBron! Where are all his ball washers now? Already added him to your Mount Hate next to Ray Allen? :lol: ElCapitano (whatever his name was) burning all his Rondo jerseys as we speak.
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Post#869 » by celticfan42487 » Tue Jul 3, 2018 11:03 am

FlatearthZorro wrote:Btw, IT could hepl the Pels if he's healthy. I mean healthy and motivated he's still a mighty scorer.


I agree that it seems like IT is a great gamble for a non contending team. And no team needs to gamble like that more than the Pelicans.

So what it'll kill their defense, if it pays off it'll be huge. They did the 2 PG thing with Rondo too much success in their system last year.
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Re: NBA Free Agency 

Post#870 » by celticfan42487 » Tue Jul 3, 2018 11:08 am

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JR Hawks wrote:Hard cap coming with next CBA.

If I'm Adam Silver, I wonder if the growing lack of competitiveness ends up costing me my job. Frankly, he's been awful on this issue and a strong case could be made for his firing...the credibility of the league is in doubt.

There is no way the Warriors don't win the championship next year. Guaranteed champions. When was the last time that could be said in major professional sports?

Check is in the Mail. -- And the Championship is in the Bank.

This is really very bad for the League. They really need some type of Harder Cap Rules.


Screw hard cap the stars will just take less money to never have to compete again in their lifes.

We need franchise tag rules like the NFL just to start but with the ability to tag them every year for up to at least 8 consecutive seasons.

After the second contract, they can sign or be franchise tagged and forced to stay. Screw that enjoy your leverage of having nothing and we can have a league again. The only way to get around it would be how the original Warriors did of just drafting extremely well and having very, very, very late blooming superstars in the splash brothers. Or do very well in a trade for a star when teams never have to give theirs up (so the way we did it in 2008 most likely knowing the stars self life is ending and you want to rebuild).

But would anyone really be upset if it was the original splash brothers version beating a KD/Westbrook team (probably still dumb enough to trade Harden). Or a LeBron Irving team? I'm guessing not.
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Post#871 » by darrendaye » Tue Jul 3, 2018 11:42 am

celticfan42487 wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
JR Hawks wrote:Hard cap coming with next CBA.

If I'm Adam Silver, I wonder if the growing lack of competitiveness ends up costing me my job. Frankly, he's been awful on this issue and a strong case could be made for his firing...the credibility of the league is in doubt.

There is no way the Warriors don't win the championship next year. Guaranteed champions. When was the last time that could be said in major professional sports?

Check is in the Mail. -- And the Championship is in the Bank.

This is really very bad for the League. They really need some type of Harder Cap Rules.


Screw hard cap the stars will just take less money to never have to compete again in their lifes.

We need franchise tag rules like the NFL just to start but with the ability to tag them every year for up to at least 8 consecutive seasons.

After the second contract, they can sign or be franchise tagged and forced to stay. Screw that enjoy your leverage of having nothing and we can have a league again. The only way to get around it would be how the original Warriors did of just drafting extremely well and having very, very, very late blooming superstars in the splash brothers. Or do very well in a trade for a star when teams never have to give theirs up (so the way we did it in 2008 most likely knowing the stars self life is ending and you want to rebuild).

But would anyone really be upset if it was the original splash brothers version beating a KD/Westbrook team (probably still dumb enough to trade Harden). Or a LeBron Irving team? I'm guessing not.


I've always thought there should be a draft pick compensation system. Not many teams lose these star free agents for nothing. If the victimized team were to at least get a 1st round pick just outside the lottery, that could help. Perhaps limit it to 2 or 3 of these compensatory picks max for a given draft. If there were a year where, say, 5 or 6 of these guys left their team high and dry, a you could roll into future draft years based on a formula of priority.
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Post#872 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Tue Jul 3, 2018 11:47 am

Just get rid of max contracts. That is it. That prevents super teams.
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Post#873 » by celticfan42487 » Tue Jul 3, 2018 1:13 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Just get rid of max contracts. That is it. That prevents super teams.


That's a fast way to become baseball though and we just have super rich owners and big market teams having all the stars.

Like I know we have the issue right now with superteams. But at least it's GS, and before then MIA with outside chances for OKC and SA during these runs.

I don't need to watch the NY Yankees of basketball and the LA Dodgers every single **** season for eternity.

At least it's the Warriors, at least it's a new fanbase. At least there's a chance we become that if we get lucky enough in the draft.

I still also think that gives superstars the option to just join for less money than they'd make elsewhere and form these super teams, it just means they'll always happen to be these teams from big markets like the Knicks and Lakers and then one or two owners like Dallas.

Honestly I think the only way to fix this is to take the ability for the players to fix the league away.
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Re: NBA Free Agency 

Post#874 » by Green_teamer » Tue Jul 3, 2018 1:16 pm

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Post#875 » by Scoonie » Tue Jul 3, 2018 1:18 pm

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As I've said, Marcus Smart is the 3rd or 4th option for the few teams with cap space.
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Post#876 » by Banks2Pierce » Tue Jul 3, 2018 1:21 pm

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As I've said, Marcus Smart is the 3rd or 4th option for the few teams with cap space.


Because of the restricted status. They know we'll likely match unless they pay well over his expected market.
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Post#877 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Tue Jul 3, 2018 1:32 pm

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CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Just get rid of max contracts. That is it. That prevents super teams.


That's a fast way to become baseball though and we just have super rich owners and big market teams having all the stars.

Like I know we have the issue right now with superteams. But at least it's GS, and before then MIA with outside chances for OKC and SA during these runs.

I don't need to watch the NY Yankees of basketball and the LA Dodgers every single **** season for eternity.

At least it's the Warriors, at least it's a new fanbase. At least there's a chance we become that if we get lucky enough in the draft.

I still also think that gives superstars the option to just join for less money than they'd make elsewhere and form these super teams, it just means they'll always happen to the teams will be the Knicks and Lakers and then one or two owners like Dallas.

Honestly I think the only way to fix this is to take the ability for the players to fix the league away.


Baseball doesn't have a salary cap though. It wouldn't be the same. The Knicks or Lakers could try for Lebron or KD, but good luck making a super team when the cap is $110 million and $65 million of that is going to one guy.
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Post#878 » by Scoonie » Tue Jul 3, 2018 1:33 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:Because of the restricted status. They know we'll likely match unless they pay well over his expected market.


Very true, the market has been very quiet on all of the bigger name restricted free agents like Clint Capela, Jabari Parker, Zach Lavine, Jusuf Nurkic, Marcus Smart, etc. I think we are going to be able to bring Marcus Smart back at an affordable price.
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Post#879 » by celticfan42487 » Tue Jul 3, 2018 2:07 pm

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Banks2Pierce wrote:Because of the restricted status. They know we'll likely match unless they pay well over his expected market.


Very true, the market has been very quiet on all of the bigger name restricted free agents like Clint Capela, Jabari Parker, Zach Lavine, Jusuf Nurkic, Marcus Smart, etc. I think we are going to be able to bring Marcus Smart back at an affordable price.


Great call. I mean Capela, Lavine are freaking cornerstones of the teams they're on. Hell Lavine at the time was considered the cornerstone of the Jimmy Bulter trade... they will match anything for these guys.

But without a market they really don't have to fear them leaving...

Parker and Nurkic are also very valuable members of the teams they're on.

I don't even know what teams have capspace left. According to this article the 76ers have 17 million and the Lakers have 10 million left. Pacers have 13 million that might be going to Tyreke Evans shortly (really hope that happens, if that's the case there's no one the 76ers could bring in with their money that I'd be concerned about).

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2018/6/28/17507448/nba-free-agency-cap-space-2018

Capela and Lavine would be matched even for max contracts. Do they like Smart gamble on a one year QO and become unrestricted next year where it looks like there will be a NUMBER of teams with money to throw around?

Apparently the Hawks and Bulls have 20 mill plus money, have to think one of them will throw it at the Nurkic and Parkers of the world. Non max players but are young and good.

It seems like unless you want to goto the Hawks or Bulls there is no team with real max space to throw at Lavine and Capela. They should just take the QO and become free agents next year where they can just sign with a bad team for a full max.
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Re: NBA Free Agency 

Post#880 » by ddb » Tue Jul 3, 2018 2:58 pm

Hearing the Celtics and Smart are close to terms for a new contract. Ironing out details

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