Zach Lavine: Offered 4/80 from Kings update p26 Bulls Matched

TheGOATRises007 · Post #661 » by **TheGOATRises007** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:30 am

kodo wrote:
RememberLu wrote:
JimmyButler21 wrote:I remember the last time they had a young, super-athletic player coming off a torn ACL

Read on Twitter

Definitely paints the contract in a different light, really his ACL is the biggest concern. Pre-ACL, the way he played in Minny, I'm fine with it. He wasn't terrible until his post ACL year w/ Chicago.

It's $5M per year more than I would have liked...but ultimately Chicago can't sign anyone for that difference of $5M per year that lands us a championship. Really the cost hit of this is we can absorb less in terms of bad contracts. And it looks like we're not even doing that at all.

By all possible metrics

Even before his ACL, he wasn't good.

Post #662 » by **Klomp** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:30 am

Congrats, Bulls fans!

Post #663 » by **Ben** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:30 am

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Ben wrote:
AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Damn dude where you been??

In fan hibernation since my favorite player got traded and other fans didn't want to hear my dismay.

Still love the Bulls oh so much. Following the Sixers more closely these days since I live on the EC and my kids support the team. Really like the Sixers' direction minus Colangelo's short-lived idiocracy. But of course the Bulls will always, always be #1.

Hope you're doing well.

Happy to see you back, you’ve been missed.

Please don’t let the pollyanna’s run you off again. It’s no more their team than yours.

Kurt Heimlich · Post #664 » by **Kurt Heimlich** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:31 am

Jstock12 wrote:Stay classy guys!

He's just mad at your dumb ass front office for offering Zach his dumb ass contract that our dumb ass front office of course had to match. No hard feelings teddy brosevelt.

rtblues · Post #665 » by **rtblues** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:31 am

Klomp wrote:Congrats, Bulls fans!

Green font?

Post #666 » by **Calinks** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:31 am

I'm very happy Zach is back! I really feel like he belongs on the Bulls with that core. I want to see that team grow. I was bummed when I thought he would go the Kings. You guys will see next season, Zach is worth it! In two years that contract will seem good.

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #667 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:31 am

TyrusRose2425 wrote:
Ben wrote:
TyrusRose2425 wrote:Not matching would be a flawed concept too

Please explain this reasoning. And please do take into account the financial concept of "sunk costs."

You can always trade him considering how young he is. There will always be a GM willing to take on the risk of a 25-26 year old Lavine. And if it pans out, then good thing we matched.

Complete nonsense. Trading 19 million dollar a year contracts is incredibly difficult. If the Bulls are looking to trade him, it means he hasn't lived up to that contract.

The rest of the league is laughing now, and you think the Bulls can trade the contract after he fails even more? No one can believe this.

Post #668 » by **fleet** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:31 am

Jstock12 wrote:Stay classy guys!

TheGOATRises007 · Post #669 » by **TheGOATRises007** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:31 am

Jstock12 wrote:Stay classy guys!

That guy is not 1 of us.

Leslie Forman · Post #670 » by **Leslie Forman** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:32 am

RememberLu wrote:
JimmyButler21 wrote:
Minalt wrote:And for people who are super upset about the potential re-signing, then understand this: The Bulls are not signing him for who he is now, they are signing him for who he might become. Just turned 23, crazy athletic, has some serious basketball talent.

Not saying that I necessarily agree with it because I love stats too, but this should be obvious.

I remember the last time they had a young, super-athletic player coming off a torn ACL

Read on Twitter

The ACL isn't the problem. The complete lack of basketball IQ is the problem.

KG_Wolves · Post #671 » by **KG_Wolves** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:32 am

Good match by you guys, after next season you will quickly realize he is underpaid.

He will be an allstar along with Lauri

Jstock12 · Post #672 » by **Jstock12** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:32 am

Hayesy wrote:
Jstock12 wrote:Stay classy guys!

He's just mad at your dumb ass front office for offering Zach his dumb ass contract that our dumb ass front office of course had to match. No hard feelings teddy brosevelt.

I'm not a Kings fan. Was just visiting their board.

Hugi Mancura · Post #673 » by **Hugi Mancura** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:32 am

Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
JimmyButler21 wrote:
Minalt wrote:And for people who are super upset about the potential re-signing, then understand this: The Bulls are not signing him for who he is now, they are signing him for who he might become. Just turned 23, crazy athletic, has some serious basketball talent.

Not saying that I necessarily agree with it because I love stats too, but this should be obvious.

I remember the last time they had a young, super-athletic player coming off a torn ACL

And that's not even comparable either.

Rose was amazing before his torn ACL.

Lavine was literally the exact same player as he is now.

LaVine haven't improved his game in his 4 season's in NBA. He haven't improved his game during the time players should learn quicly. Why would anyone think he could improve his game in the future when he finally got paid huge money. What you saw will be best you will ever get from him (shooting will go nearer the Minnesota level, but that's all). It is nice to see someone is positive about him, but there are lots of players who are just happy to get to the nba and are not willing to do any true work to improve them selves and sadly I think LaVine belongs to this category.

Post #674 » by **RedBulls23** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:33 am

Dumb. Oh well...I really hope he proves me wrong.

TheGOATRises007 · Post #675 » by **TheGOATRises007** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:33 am

Jcool0 wrote:
rtblues wrote:This seems to be more of a PR* signing than merit-based.
(*Public Relations)

How is this PR based? the PR move would of been to not match the offer.

It's simple.

Most casual fans saw Lavine as the main asset from the Butler trade.

Letting him walk can be construed as a poor PR move.

madvillian · Post #676 » by **madvillian** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:34 am

Christ, here come the **** fanbois. I'm too old for this ****.

Post #677 » by **fleet** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:34 am

Confirmation bias. Poll numbers are swinging back to yes

Jcool0 · Post #678 » by **Jcool0** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:34 am

Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
rtblues wrote:This seems to be more of a PR* signing than merit-based.
(*Public Relations)

How is this PR based? the PR move would of been to not match the offer.

It's simple.

Most casual fans saw Lavine as the main asset from the Butler trade.

Letting him walk can be construed as a poor PR move.

That's just not true.

TheGOATRises007 · Post #679 » by **TheGOATRises007** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:34 am

Jstock12 wrote:
Hayesy wrote:
Jstock12 wrote:Stay classy guys!

He's just mad at your dumb ass front office for offering Zach his dumb ass contract that our dumb ass front office of course had to match. No hard feelings teddy brosevelt.

I'm not a Kings fan. Was just visiting their board.

So you took 1 fan's comments and attributed it to all of us

:lol:

Boardwalker · Post #680 » by **Boardwalker** » Sat Jul 7, 2018 2:34 am

I like this move by the FO. At 23, Zach has a potentially big upside, is exciting to watch, and fits well with the youth movement. And if he doesn't pan out, he'll still be relatively young toward the end of his front-loaded contract which gives him some trade value.

Match? 4 yrs 78 mil