Kawhi Thread, Numero 4 -- Traded to Raptors for DeRozan, others

[sully00]

Says the guy who thinks Jayson Tatum plays SG. I know Haywood is no JJ Redick or that Covington guy what happened to him in the playoffs was he hurt or something it was like he was almost invisible.

Philly ain't ****, and unless they get Kawhi for nickels or that Kings pick next year, they never will be. Not on our level, not worth paying any attention to going forward. The Bucks have a chance to matter, because Giannis is twice the player Simmons ever will be. Other than that, I'm only looking at the Warriors.

Have the Bucks considered Leonard? I find it weird their team never comes up. Put him with Yiannis and you get a very good duo?

I know it has come up the problem is if you made a list of places guys who are frustrated by their sneaker deal want to play MIL is probably worse than SA add to that it Giannis is already the face of the franchise and there is zero chance that Leonard has any interest in being there.

[Theocy]

Philly ain't ****, and unless they get Kawhi for nickels or that Kings pick next year, they never will be. Not on our level, not worth paying any attention to going forward. The Bucks have a chance to matter, because Giannis is twice the player Simmons ever will be. Other than that, I'm only looking at the Warriors.

Have the Bucks considered Leonard? I find it weird their team never comes up. Put him with Yiannis and you get a very good duo?

I know it has come up the problem is if you made a list of places guys who are frustrated by their sneaker deal want to play MIL is probably worse than SA add to that it Giannis is already the face of the franchise and there is zero chance that Leonard has any interest in being there.

i thought Yiannis is killing it atm in terms of jersey / shoes sales. Sorry could be wrong. I know milwakee doesn't sound like california or new york. But Frankly i think you often find players who are more than the franchise. In that respect both greek freak and Kahway can be that. And Bucks could probably make the deal work financially / salary / trade wise.

Not routing for 'fear the deer' btw. I'm just perplexed as to no team in the east other than Philly (and to a lesser extent Boston and Toronto apparently!)

[kuclas]

Hayward would eat into Tatum's minutes. Tatum is not a good enough ball handler to play the 2 slot. So if Haywood was healthy, he would have hinder Tatum's development/minutes. Boston overpaid for Hayward who is a one time fringe all star and coming off a major injury.

I do agree Rozier is 20% of Kyrie Irving. Rozier is over-rated and Boston is trying to sell high on him to the sucker Spurs. Spurs aren't taking the bait since they have a better and younger guard already. I do love Kyrie's offensive game.

Says the guy who thinks Jayson Tatum plays SG. I know Haywood is no JJ Redick or that Covington guy what happened to him in the playoffs was he hurt or something it was like he was almost invisible.

Philly ain't ****, and unless they get Kawhi for nickels or that Kings pick next year, they never will be. Not on our level, not worth paying any attention to going forward. The Bucks have a chance to matter, because Giannis is twice the player Simmons ever will be. Other than that, I'm only looking at the Warriors.

The Bucks do not matchup well vs philly. They won’t beat philly in a 7 game series. It’s not that Giannis is twice the player Simmons is. It’s that Giannis has a hard time finding space to operate when Embiid is in the game. Unless he’s hitting his shots on the outside.

[robdog_5]

Says the guy who thinks Jayson Tatum plays SG. I know Haywood is no JJ Redick or that Covington guy what happened to him in the playoffs was he hurt or something it was like he was almost invisible.

Philly ain't ****, and unless they get Kawhi for nickels or that Kings pick next year, they never will be. Not on our level, not worth paying any attention to going forward. The Bucks have a chance to matter, because Giannis is twice the player Simmons ever will be. Other than that, I'm only looking at the Warriors.

The Bucks do not matchup well vs philly. They won’t beat philly in a 7 game series. It’s not that Giannis is twice the player Simmons is. It’s that Giannis has a hard time finding space to operate when Embiid is in the game. Unless he’s hitting his shots on the outside.

Milwaukee off season moves are helpful in that area. Brock Lopez and Illyasova are floor spacers who can space Embidd out. Baynes making 3s against Philly gave Embidd a lot of issues

[sully00]

Have the Bucks considered Leonard? I find it weird their team never comes up. Put him with Yiannis and you get a very good duo?

I know it has come up the problem is if you made a list of places guys who are frustrated by their sneaker deal want to play MIL is probably worse than SA add to that it Giannis is already the face of the franchise and there is zero chance that Leonard has any interest in being there.

i thought Yiannis is killing it atm in terms of jersey / shoes sales. Sorry could be wrong. I know milwakee doesn't sound like california or new york. But Frankly i think you often find players who are more than the franchise. In that respect both greek freak and Kahway can be that. And Bucks could probably make the deal work financially / salary / trade wise.

Not routing for 'fear the deer' btw. I'm just perplexed as to no team in the east other than Philly (and to a lesser extent Boston and Toronto apparently!)

Giannis is killing it and has his own shoe and it sounds like a better deal than Leonard. But if he is wary of sharing LA with Lebron no way he is sharing MIL with Giannis. This isn't going to go well so in some ways it might be better to just stay out of it. Leonard is basically taking on real FA and sneaker FA at the same time next year and it is probably going to end badly for him because he is going to take a pretty big PR hit so he isn't going to get the shoe offers he is expecting and if he screws with Nike enough they might pull the deal they already offered.

What basically is going on is Leonard is pissing away a 5 year 205 mil dollar contract so he can sign a 4 year 136 mil contract (or 5 years 166 mil) because he wants 5 mil more a year on sneaker deal. What is the point of giving up $40 mil to get $20 mil especially when it won't work? I still think this just ends with Leonard re-signing with the Spurs because it is such a **** show nobody is going to want to get involved.

[Taget]

Says the guy who thinks Jayson Tatum plays SG. I know Haywood is no JJ Redick or that Covington guy what happened to him in the playoffs was he hurt or something it was like he was almost invisible.

Philly ain't ****, and unless they get Kawhi for nickels or that Kings pick next year, they never will be. Not on our level, not worth paying any attention to going forward. The Bucks have a chance to matter, because Giannis is twice the player Simmons ever will be. Other than that, I'm only looking at the Warriors.

Have the Bucks considered Leonard? I find it weird their team never comes up. Put him with Yiannis and you get a very good duo?

In theory it would make a ton of sense for both sides. But in practice you have the same issue for the Bucks that we have. If Kawhi is not staying and may even possibly be willing to play the same sort of game he is playing with San Antonio why risk opening the piggy bank?

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Translation: several teams willing to offer bad contracts and pu-pu platters for Kawhi, even without guarantee that he would stay beyond next season.

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This is what the spurs should do. Give teams, a select few permission to talk to kawhi about re-signing with them. That is the only way they are going to get a better offer.

[Kefa461]

I know it has come up the problem is if you made a list of places guys who are frustrated by their sneaker deal want to play MIL is probably worse than SA add to that it Giannis is already the face of the franchise and there is zero chance that Leonard has any interest in being there.

i thought Yiannis is killing it atm in terms of jersey / shoes sales. Sorry could be wrong. I know milwakee doesn't sound like california or new york. But Frankly i think you often find players who are more than the franchise. In that respect both greek freak and Kahway can be that. And Bucks could probably make the deal work financially / salary / trade wise.

Not routing for 'fear the deer' btw. I'm just perplexed as to no team in the east other than Philly (and to a lesser extent Boston and Toronto apparently!)

Giannis is killing it and has his own shoe and it sounds like a better deal than Leonard. But if he is wary of sharing LA with Lebron no way he is sharing MIL with Giannis. This isn't going to go well so in some ways it might be better to just stay out of it. Leonard is basically taking on real FA and sneaker FA at the same time next year and it is probably going to end badly for him because he is going to take a pretty big PR hit so he isn't going to get the shoe offers he is expecting and if he screws with Nike enough they might pull the deal they already offered.

What basically is going on is Leonard is pissing away a 5 year 205 mil dollar contract so he can sign a 4 year 136 mil contract (or 5 years 166 mil) because he wants 5 mil more a year on sneaker deal. What is the point of giving up $40 mil to get $20 mil especially when it won't work? I still think this just ends with Leonard re-signing with the Spurs because it is such a **** show nobody is going to want to get involved.

that's because uncle knucklehead is calling the shots....

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[CeltsfaninDC]

This is what the spurs should do. Give teams, a select few permission to talk to kawhi about re-signing with them. That is the only way they are going to get a better offer.

Why do you assume that hasn’t already happened? Why would talking to him make him suddenly change his mind (No, I REALLY would prefer to winter in MIL instead of sunny LA)? Why would any team trust anything he has to say at this point? He literally can’t sign a long term deal so any team trading for him is doing so knowing they might be left holding the bag next year when he signs with LAC. This is pointless as evidenced by the last tweet you posted which shows he is untrustworthy to even his own team.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

How dumb are the Sixers? Why in the world would they leak out that they are targeting RC Buford for the vacant GM position? Do they really think that Pop and Spurs ownership are going to approve any Kawhi trade to Philly now? Holy ****.

[Marvel]

i thought Yiannis is killing it atm in terms of jersey / shoes sales. Sorry could be wrong. I know milwakee doesn't sound like california or new york. But Frankly i think you often find players who are more than the franchise. In that respect both greek freak and Kahway can be that. And Bucks could probably make the deal work financially / salary / trade wise.

Not routing for 'fear the deer' btw. I'm just perplexed as to no team in the east other than Philly (and to a lesser extent Boston and Toronto apparently!)

Giannis is killing it and has his own shoe and it sounds like a better deal than Leonard. But if he is wary of sharing LA with Lebron no way he is sharing MIL with Giannis. This isn't going to go well so in some ways it might be better to just stay out of it. Leonard is basically taking on real FA and sneaker FA at the same time next year and it is probably going to end badly for him because he is going to take a pretty big PR hit so he isn't going to get the shoe offers he is expecting and if he screws with Nike enough they might pull the deal they already offered.

What basically is going on is Leonard is pissing away a 5 year 205 mil dollar contract so he can sign a 4 year 136 mil contract (or 5 years 166 mil) because he wants 5 mil more a year on sneaker deal. What is the point of giving up $40 mil to get $20 mil especially when it won't work? I still think this just ends with Leonard re-signing with the Spurs because it is such a **** show nobody is going to want to get involved.

that's because uncle knucklehead is calling the shots....

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[Kefa461]

Giannis is killing it and has his own shoe and it sounds like a better deal than Leonard. But if he is wary of sharing LA with Lebron no way he is sharing MIL with Giannis. This isn't going to go well so in some ways it might be better to just stay out of it. Leonard is basically taking on real FA and sneaker FA at the same time next year and it is probably going to end badly for him because he is going to take a pretty big PR hit so he isn't going to get the shoe offers he is expecting and if he screws with Nike enough they might pull the deal they already offered.

What basically is going on is Leonard is pissing away a 5 year 205 mil dollar contract so he can sign a 4 year 136 mil contract (or 5 years 166 mil) because he wants 5 mil more a year on sneaker deal. What is the point of giving up $40 mil to get $20 mil especially when it won't work? I still think this just ends with Leonard re-signing with the Spurs because it is such a **** show nobody is going to want to get involved.

that's because uncle knucklehead is calling the shots....

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For Kefa? been waiting for this moment.

[Captain_Caveman]

Says the guy who thinks Jayson Tatum plays SG. I know Haywood is no JJ Redick or that Covington guy what happened to him in the playoffs was he hurt or something it was like he was almost invisible.

Philly ain't ****, and unless they get Kawhi for nickels or that Kings pick next year, they never will be. Not on our level, not worth paying any attention to going forward. The Bucks have a chance to matter, because Giannis is twice the player Simmons ever will be. Other than that, I'm only looking at the Warriors.

The Bucks do not matchup well vs philly. They won’t beat philly in a 7 game series. It’s not that Giannis is twice the player Simmons is. It’s that Giannis has a hard time finding space to operate when Embiid is in the game. Unless he’s hitting his shots on the outside.

My point wasn't that they matter. It was that, unlike Philly, they have a chance to someday.

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Of course. They just won't give up value in the process.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Team USA Basketball has their camp in Vegas near the end of July. Has Pop chosen his assistants? Is Brad Stevens an assistant coach? Might be a good to rub elbows with Kawhi and plant some seeds in his head about how fun it would be to play for him.

[robdog_5]

Team USA Basketball has their camp in Vegas near the end of July. Has Pop chosen his assistants? Is Brad Stevens an assistant coach? Might be a good to rub elbows with Kawhi and plant some seeds in his head about how fun it would be to play for him.

Jay Larranaga is.