Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money"

[Edug27]

Celtics are not getting Kawhi Leonard or Anthony Davis. Don't set yourself up to be disappointed.

Kawhi... nope. Ship sailed. AD has yet to hit the market so too early to tell. Just have to let it all play out.

Really was just talking about this off-season.

Oh.. then yes. Agree.

[Big Joke Line]

No way should the celtics pay Marcus Smart more than 10 million, max being 13 million. That is his value money wise. He is a 10-12 million type of player.

Marcus Smart is actually a $8-9 million a year player. Celtics may have to pay $10-12 million to keep him.

And 1'd b/c I liked the first half.

[brackdan70]

No way should the celtics pay Marcus Smart more than 10 million, max being 13 million. That is his value money wise. He is a 10-12 million type of player.

The way things have shaken out I don’t foresee him making more than 12 million

[Homerclease]

No way should the celtics pay Marcus Smart more than 10 million, max being 13 million. That is his value money wise. He is a 10-12 million type of player.

The way things have shaken out I don’t foresee him making more than 12 million

Agreed. I don’t see why he should get a penny more than what Lou Williams took. That’s market value for role playing guards of their caliber. Hell, I’d even argue Lou is better than Marcus

[Big Joke Line]

No way should the celtics pay Marcus Smart more than 10 million, max being 13 million. That is his value money wise. He is a 10-12 million type of player.

The way things have shaken out I don’t foresee him making more than 12 million

I'll eat crow if the Celts give him $12million/year multi year.

[Celts17Pride]

No way should the celtics pay Marcus Smart more than 10 million, max being 13 million. That is his value money wise. He is a 10-12 million type of player.

The way things have shaken out I don’t foresee him making more than 12 million

Agree. Smart's price tag is going to be south of $12 million. Smart at $12 million or lower is a no brainer to sign him even if to be included in a trade at a later date.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Almost impossible for us not to pay the tax next year, unless we move Smart, lose Rozier and Morris and the SAC pick and lose Kyrie. The question is whether we want to pay it this year, and there are circumstances where we would.

[Andrew McCeltic]

12.05ish..

[brackdan70]

No way should the celtics pay Marcus Smart more than 10 million, max being 13 million. That is his value money wise. He is a 10-12 million type of player.

The way things have shaken out I don’t foresee him making more than 12 million

Agreed. I don’t see why he should get a penny more than what Lou Williams took. That’s market value for role playing guards of their caliber. Hell, I’d even argue Lou is better than Marcus

I mostly agree but I think Marcus has a bit more value due to age and alleged room to improve.

[Homerclease]

Almost impossible for us not to pay the tax next year, unless we move Smart, lose Rozier and Morris and the SAC pick and lose Kyrie. The question is whether we want to pay it this year, and there are circumstances where we would.

Hard to say because we don’t know what Al Horford is going to do yet

[Homerclease]

The way things have shaken out I don’t foresee him making more than 12 million

Agreed. I don’t see why he should get a penny more than what Lou Williams took. That’s market value for role playing guards of their caliber. Hell, I’d even argue Lou is better than Marcus

I mostly agree but I think Marcus has a bit more value due to age and alleged room to improve.

Which I think washes out with Williams being the better player. Dude carried the clips for a solid 2 months and was even getting buzz about being named an all star.

[Afam]

We have one true star on this team and that is Kyrie Irving.

Jaylen Brown is a potential all star. He is not there yet. Still has ways to go in order to become a star player.

Jayson Tatum- Has the potential to be a star, had a great season this year ,but it is only one season. Let us wait and see what he does next season before proclaiming him a star. The talent is there though. He is going to become a very good player. Has the potential to be a two way player.

Gordon Hayward. He is allstar but he is coming of an injury , a serious injury so let's see how he recovers ,and adjusts to the team chemistry wise and his game.

Al Horford. An All star, but he is getting old, and has just one more season before he becomes a free agent.

Celtics are a good team, a championship team but they still need improvements. If the warriors can add Kevin Durant, and Demarcus Cousins to an already championship team, so should the celtics. In the NBA you need two star players to compete for a championship, three to win it all.

Look at the Warriors Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, Klay Thomopson

Houston Rockets. James Harden Chris Paul. Even the rockets are great as they are, are still missing one more star player that would enable them beat the warriors. Celtics should always look to improve the team and they are doing just that. That is why they are always checking in on Kawhi Leonard and Anthony Davis or any star player for that matter. Celtics are great team but they are missing one more star player in order to win it all, and that should be the goal.

[Kefa461]

This team is so close to being a great team, a team that will dominate the NBA for years. All they are missing is one more star player. If the celtics were to acquire Kawhi Leonard or Anthony Davis, they will beat the Warriors.

Celtics are not getting Kawhi Leonard or Anthony Davis. Don't set yourself up to be disappointed.

correct...no AD or KL this year we need to see how we stand with a full healthy squad....also another year of maturity for JT/JB/TR plus all those sweet picks.....next season maybe we make some moves.....

[TheNetsFan]

Read on Twitter

I look at your roster & I wonder how true that is for this year. If you're able to retain Irving next season, than you're staring at years of being a tax payer. My assumption (it could be wrong) is that you'd want to avoid the tax this year in order to delay starting the clock on the repeater tax. I don't have insight on your ownership's willingness to spend big, but any year you can avoid the tax & postpone repeater taxes is huge for most owners. What are your thoughts?

Pretty spot on analysis. I am not sure if he was referring to this year specifically, or just in general, knowing that Kyrie (to say nothing of the rookie contract guys) has to get paid.

Read on Twitter

Supposedly the question was how the 2019 tax bill affects this year's decisions. Aing is a bit cryptic with his response. With the Nets being one of the teams that met with him. Nets boards are very split into Hell no & Hell yes camps. Some of the latter think we'd need to make some extra room to make an offer you wouldn't match. I'm more of the camp that I'd offer what we have in cap space, about $10.5mil, escalate from there, and dare the Celtics to either make other moves to duck the tax this year or let him walk.

Smart, in my opinion is a great guy to have on a value contract, but not someone worth overpaying. 3/$34mil-4/$46mil would be a fair contract in my opinion. He'd be a nice to have in Brooklyn, but not a necessity, so I'm hoping we don't overpay. I think it's more smoke than fire, as 2019 cap space is a priority for us, but you can't turn down value deals.

[Celts17Pride]

We have one true star on this team and that is Kyrie Irving.

Jaylen Brown is a potential all star. He is not there yet. Still has ways to go in order to become a star player.

Jayson Tatum- Has the potential to be a star, had a great season this year ,but it is only one season. Let us wait and see what he does next season before proclaiming him a star. The talent is there though. He is going to become a very good player. Has the potential to be a two way player.

Gordon Hayward. He is allstar but he is coming of an injury , a serious injury so let's see how he recovers ,and adjusts to the team chemistry wise and his game.

Al Horford. An All star, but he is getting old, and has just one more season before he becomes a free agent.

Celtics are a good team, a championship team but they still need improvements. If the warriors can add Kevin Durant, and Demarcus Cousins to an already championship team, so should the celtics. In the NBA you need two star players to compete for a championship, three to win it all.

Look at the Warriors Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, Klay Thomopson

Houston Rockets. James Harden Chris Paul. Even the rockets are great as they are, are still missing one more star player that would enable them beat the warriors. Celtics should always look to improve the team and they are doing just that. That is why they are always checking in on Kawhi Leonard and Anthony Davis or any star player for that matter. Celtics are great team but they are missing one more star player in order to win it all, and that should be the goal.

Break up the Celtics!!!!!!!!!!

[ConstableGeneva]

Agreed. I don’t see why he should get a penny more than what Lou Williams took. That’s market value for role playing guards of their caliber. Hell, I’d even argue Lou is better than Marcus

I mostly agree but I think Marcus has a bit more value due to age and alleged room to improve.

Which I think washes out with Williams being the better player. Dude carried the clips for a solid 2 months and was even getting buzz about being named an all star.

People have to ease up with comparing players and their salaries. So many factors come in when determining one's contract.
▪ state of the market
▪ one team can value a particular player vastly different from another team (lol LaVine)
▪ cap/tax situation of incumbent team
▪ cap/tax situation of teams wanting to pursue a particular player
▪ ability (or lack thereof) of a team to attract outside free agents (Exum and Favors got overpaid for this reason imo)
▪ agent ineptitude/aptitude
▪ age/upside
▪ actual impact/role on current team vs. perceived impact/role on new team

I could make more things up if need be.

[brackdan70]

I look at your roster & I wonder how true that is for this year. If you're able to retain Irving next season, than you're staring at years of being a tax payer. My assumption (it could be wrong) is that you'd want to avoid the tax this year in order to delay starting the clock on the repeater tax. I don't have insight on your ownership's willingness to spend big, but any year you can avoid the tax & postpone repeater taxes is huge for most owners. What are your thoughts?

Pretty spot on analysis. I am not sure if he was referring to this year specifically, or just in general, knowing that Kyrie (to say nothing of the rookie contract guys) has to get paid.

Read on Twitter

Supposedly the question was how the 2019 tax bill affects this year's decisions. Aing is a bit cryptic with his response. With the Nets being one of the teams that met with him. Nets boards are very split into Hell no & Hell yes camps. Some of the latter think we'd need to make some extra room to make an offer you wouldn't match. I'm more of the camp that I'd offer what we have in cap space, about $10.5mil, escalate from there, and dare the Celtics to either make other moves to duck the tax this year or let him walk.

Smart, in my opinion is a great guy to have on a value contract, but not someone worth overpaying. 3/$34mil-4/$46mil would be a fair contract in my opinion. He'd be a nice to have in Brooklyn, but not a necessity, so I'm hoping we don't overpay. I think it's more smoke than fire, as 2019 cap space is a priority for us, but you can't turn down value deals.

Good points all. I think the Cs can easily maneuver under the tax if Smart is making 11 m or less next year.

[Afam]

Celtics will get to the finals and lose. That is how it is going to play out. The warriors are too good. The Celtics and the front office etc know they are one more star player away from being a true championship that is why they have been trying to trade for another star player. As presently constituted they are not beating the warriors.


What makes the warriors great is because they are always looking for ways to get better to improve the team. They didn't have to get Demarcus Cousins but they did. Speaking for myself, i will always believe that the celtics are missing one more star player in order to compete for championships. As long as i am a celtics fan, i want them to find ways to improve the team, to getter better.

[captain green]

Tired of his camp.
Happy asked fans to accept he don't want a ton of money.
Now he is open to the original deal he turned down.
And he still hasn't matured. I don't care if he is a lock down defender. Sign qualified offer or piss off. Ya can't have big money until you grow up and or stop being the worse shooter in the league

[Captain_Caveman]

No way should the celtics pay Marcus Smart more than 10 million, max being 13 million. That is his value money wise. He is a 10-12 million type of player.

Marcus Smart is actually a $8-9 million a year player. Celtics may have to pay $10-12 million to keep him.

Not for the years in question.