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2019 - 2021 Free-Agents

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Who will be a member of the Clippers this summer?

Poll ended at Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:58 pm

Patrick Beverley
2
22%
Jimmy Butler
2
22%
DeMarcus Cousins
0
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Kevin Durant
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No votes
Al Horford
2
22%
Kyrie Irving
0
No votes
Kawhi Leonard
3
33%
Klay Thompson
0
No votes
An Ex-Clipper (Harris, Jordan, Aminu, Green, Temple, etc.)
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No votes
Someone acquired by trade
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No votes
 
Total votes: 9

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2019 - 2021 Free-Agents 

Post#1 » by mkwest » Tue Jul 3, 2018 2:17 am

2019 Free-Agency

Spoiler:
UFAs
Al-Farouq Aminu - 29 -- Magic 3yr/$29M
***Patrick Beverley - 31 -- Clippers 3yr/$40M***
Eric Bledsoe - 29 -- Signed 4 Year, $70M extension with Bucks
Bojan Bogdanovic -- Jazz 4yr/$73M
DeMarcus Cousins - 29 -- Lakers 1yr/3.5M
JaMychal Green - 29 -- 2yr/$10M
Tobias Harris - 27 -- 76ers 5 yr/$180M
DeAndre Jordan - 31 -- Nets 4yr/$40M
Brook Lopez - 31-- Bucks 4yr/$52M
Nikola Mirotic - 28 -- Expected to sign with Barça Lassa
Johnathan Motley - 24 -- Two-Way Deal with Clippers
Ricky Rubio - 29 -- Suns 3yr/$51M
Garrett Temple - 33 --Nets 2yr/$9.8M
Klay Thompson - 29(INJ - ACL) -- Expected to accept 5yr/$189.7M offer from Warriors.
Nikola Vucevic - 29 -- Expected to re-sign with Orlando for 4yr/$100M
Kemba Walker - 29 -- Expected to sign 4yr/$140.6M
Thaddeus Young - 31 -- Bulls 3yr/$41M

POs
Harrison Barnes - 27 -- Expected to re-sign with Kings for 4yr/$85M
Jimmy Butler - 30 -- HEAT 4yr/$142M
Goran Dragic - 33 -- Opted into final season @ $19.2M
Kevin Durant - 31 (INJ-Achilles) -- Nets 4yr/$164M
Marc Gasol - 34 -- Opted into final season @ $25.6M
Al Horford - 33 -- 76ers 4yr/$109M
Kyrie Irving - 27 -- Expected to sign with Nets for 4yr/$140.6M
***Kawhi Leonard - 28 -- Clippers 4 yr/$142M***
Kevin Love - 31 -- Signed 4 Year, $120M extension with Cavs
Khris Middleton - 28 -- Bucks 5yr/$178M
Julius Randle - 25 -- FA -- Knicks 3yr/$63M
Jonas Valanciunas - 27 -- Expected to re-sign with Grizzlies for 3yr/$45M
Hassan Whiteside - 30-- Opted into final season @ $27.1M

RFAs
Jordan Bell - 24 -- Timberwolves 1yr/$1.6M
Malcolm Brogdon -- Pacers 4yr/$85M
Willie Cauley-Stein - 26 -- Warriors
Kevon Looney -- Warriors 3yr/$15M
***Rodney McGruder - 28 -- Clippers 3yr/$15M***
Kristaps Porzingis - 24 -- Mavs 5yr/$158M
Terry Rozier - 25 -- Hornets 3yr/$58M
D'Angelo Russell - 23 -- Warriors 4yr/$117M
Karl-Anthony Towns - 23 -- Signed 5 Year, $190M extension with T-Wolves
Myles Turner - 23 -- Signed 4 Year, $72M extension with Pacers
Ivica Zubac - 22 -- Clippers 4yr/$28M

Current guaranteed salary
Patrick Beverley - $9,551,353 (Cap Hold)
Lou Williams - $8,000,000
Montrezl Harrell - $6,000,000
Jerome Robinson - $3,567,600
Mfiondu Kabengele - $1,974,480
Ivica Zubac - $1,931,189 (QO/Cap Hold)
Landry Shamet - $1,995,120
Rodney McGruder - $1,931,189 (QO/Cap Hold)
Terance Mann - $0

Expected Salary Cap - $109M
Cap Space if:
      Thornwell & Motley waived, Chandler, Temple & Green renounced - $45,744,848
      Thornwell & Motley waived & Renounce All FA's - $56,408,411
      Dump Gallinari, Thornwell & Motley waived & Renounce All FA's - $78,126,812


2020 Free-Agency
*Age by end of 2020

UFAs
Aron Baynes - 33
Kent Bazemore - 31
Davis Bertans - 28
Jordan Clarkson - 28
DeMarcus Cousins - 30
Jae Crowder - 30
Goran Dragic - 34
Derrick Favors - 29
Danilo Gallinari - 32
Marc Gasol - 35
Eric Gordon - 31
Draymond Green - 30 -- Signed 4yr/$100M extension with Warriors
Moe Harkless - 27
Montrezl Harrell - 26
John Henson - 29
Serge Ibaka - 31???
Andre Iguodala - 36
Kyle Lowry - 34
Paul Millsap - 35
Marcus Morris - 31
Jeff Teague - 32
Hassan Whiteside - 31
Lou Williams (TO) - 34 -- Final Season Guaranteed

POs
Anthony Davis - 27
DeMar DeRozan - 31
JaMychal Green - 30
Gordon Hayward - 30
Markieff Morris - 31
Kelly Olynyk - 29

RFAs
Bogdan Bogdanovic - 28

Current guaranteed salary
Paul George - 35,450,412
Kawhi Leonard - $34,379,100
Maurice Harkless - $16,516,854 (Cap hold)
Patrick Beverley - $13,333,333
Montrezl Harrell - $11,400,000 (cap hold)
Lou Williams - $8,000,000
Ivica Zubac - $7,000,000
Rodney McGruder - $5,192,307
JaMychal Green - $5,005,350 (or 5,720,400 Cap hold)
Jerome Robinson - $3,737,520 (TO)
Landry Shamet - $2,090,040 (TO)
Mfiondu Kabengele - $2,073,240
Terance Mann - $1,517,981

The Salary cap is expected to be $113.4M.
Non-Taxaper MLE - $9,924,000 (4 Years, $42,673,200)
Taxpayer MLE - $6,129,000 (3 Years, $19,306,350)
Bi-Annual Exception - $3,883,000 (2 Years, $7,960,150)

Outside of Davis and Green, it's not that great of a FA class imo. DeRozan ($27.7M) and Hayward ($34.2M) would have to turn down big money to opt out.


2021 Free-Agency
Spoiler:
*Age by end of 2021

UFAs
Steven Adams - 28
LaMarcus Aldridge - 36
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 27
Bradley Beal - 28
Mike Conley -34
Anthony Davis - 28
DeMar DeRozan - 32
Andre Drummond - 28
Evan Fournier - 29
Rudy Gobert - 29
JaMychal Green - 31
Gordon Hayward - 31
Joe Ingles - 34
Victor Oladipo - 29
Otto Porter - 28
JJ Redick - 37
Lou Williams - 35

POs
Paul George - 31
Blake Griffin - 32
LeBron James - 37
Kawhi Leonard - 30
Chris Paul - 36
Josh Richardson - 28

RFAs
Bam Adebayo - 24
Jarrett Allen - 23
OG Anunoby - 24
Lonzo Ball - 24
John Collins - 24
Zach Collins - 24
De'Aaron Fox -24
Markelle Fultz - 23
Harry Giles - 23
Jonathan Isaac - 24
Kyle Kuzma - 26
Lauri Markkanen - 24
Donovan Mitchell - 25
Kelly Oubre - 26
Dennis Smith Jr. - 24
Jayson Tatum - 23
Derrick White - 27

Current Guaranteed Salary
Paul George - $43,750,000 (Cap Hold)
Kawhi Leonard - $43,750,000 (Cap Hold)
Patrick Beverley - $14,320,967
Ivica Zubac - $7,518,518
Jerome Robinson - $5,340,916 (TO)
Landry Shamet - $3,768,342 (TO)
Mfiondu Kabengele - $2,174,880 (TO)


Expected Salary Cap: $125M



I debated on even adding the RFA's, but did it anyway. Some will likely be extended before they hit free-agency or will otherwise be matched.



Feel free to add any FA's that I may have missed.

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Re: Potential 2019 Free-Agents 

Post#2 » by Roscoe Sheed » Tue Jul 3, 2018 3:25 am

I’m hoping for Anthony Davis whenever he becomes available
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Post#3 » by mkwest » Tue Jul 3, 2018 3:31 am

Roscoe Sheed wrote:I’m hoping for Anthony Davis whenever he becomes available


He has a player option in 2020.
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1 of 4 Max-Worthy Free-Agent Targets 

Post#4 » by Ranma » Tue Jul 3, 2018 4:01 am

Roscoe Sheed wrote:I’m hoping for Anthony Davis whenever he becomes available

mkwest wrote:He has a player option in 2020.


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Re: Potential 2019 Free-Agents 

Post#5 » by donemilio21 » Wed Jul 4, 2018 1:01 am

none of the RFAs will be available via free agency.
I'd say the best case scenario is signing Irving and Leonard as FAs, and then signing both Harris and Beverly using their bird rights.
we'll probably be way over tax though.
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Post#6 » by Quake Griffin » Wed Jul 4, 2018 2:49 am

Thread title should just say 2019 Free Agents.

These guys aren't signing here.
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Re: Potential 2019 Free-Agents 

Post#7 » by Forte IV » Wed Jul 4, 2018 5:37 am

Khris Middleton is a guy that interests me. I would say Jimmy but I didn't realize he was gonna be 30
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Post#8 » by Neddy » Wed Jul 4, 2018 5:45 am

I think we are making a trade to bring in the big fish. The free agents will only be a factor once we find that center piece after trade deadline and which of our youth comes through to define the positional need as well as what type of player to sign. We may simply need role players, we may need robin, but godforbid, please not be in a situation where we need to find the Batman via free agency
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Post#9 » by Ranma » Thu Jul 5, 2018 12:31 am

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Post#12 » by mkwest » Thu Jul 5, 2018 9:26 pm

The NBA Has Already Moved on to the 2019 Offseason

The Clippers are in position to take a giant leap forward in the very near future. The capable veterans that make up the bulk of the roster should keep the Clippers respectable next season—the merits of such a strategy, during a time when every other West team wants to win, are debatable—but the biggest value for most of them comes from what they are not: signed past next season. As of now, with Montrezl Harrell’s restricted free agency still unresolved, only two Clippers players are due fully guaranteed salaries next summer. Add in their two recent first-round picks and Bradley’s partial guarantee, and the team could have enough for two max contracts in the summer of 2019, when franchise players like Kawhi Leonard, Klay Thompson, and Kyrie Irving may hit the market.

The problem is the Clippers won’t be the only team holding a bag or two next offseason. With some of the gross overpays signed in the boom of 2016 coming off teams’ books, and the cap projected to jump about $7 million after flattening out the past two summers, there will be plenty of cash to go around. As many as 11 teams can open up enough cap space for at least one max deal in 2019, including all seven teams in the top five U.S. media markets, if they don’t add long-term salary in this offseason’s home stretch. Most aren’t being coy about how they plan to use it, either. Knicks president Steve Mills said before this year’s free agency began that his team will be back in the star-chasing business in 2019. New Knicks coach David Fizdale doubled down on Wednesday: “As we get our culture in place, [Kristaps Porzingis] gets healthy, we start moving into next summer, I really feel like we’ll have the bricks in place to make some big moves.”


Every team would love to easy-bake a contender in one summer. But while the Heat’s success in 2010 free agency led them to four straight Finals and paved a path to where we are today in star-player movement, the Knicks also set a course for irrelevance by settling for Amar’e Stoudemire when their hard sell to James went nowhere. The possibility of teams having money next year but no one to spend it on seemed to be on agents’ minds this past week, as long-term security was eschewed en masse in favor of trying again in next year’s more player-friendly market. Through Thursday morning, there have been 29 one-year deals, four one-year deals with player options for a second year, two one-year deals with nonguaranteed second years, one one-year deal with a team option for a second year, and Bradley’s one-year deal with a partial guarantee in the second. Most of the major restricted free agents also remain in limbo, and some could wind up playing out next season on the one-year qualifying offer.


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Post#13 » by statsman42 » Fri Jul 6, 2018 2:31 pm

AD is the guy I want more than any other in the league. I'm about 95% sure he won't be in New Orleans long-term, so the opportunity is there. He's pretty much the reason I'm not overly concerned about what happens with Kawhi or what our record is the next couple of years. It's AD or bust for me.
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Post#15 » by esqtvd » Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:25 am

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as of July 3--and we have taken on little in the way of future commitments, like only a nominal buyout for Avery Bradley's 2nd year

Clippers' rebuilt roster could open salary-cap space of almost $70 million next summer


http://www.latimes.com/sports/clippers/la-sp-clippers-free-agency-20180703-story.html


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Cap Space Is No Face 

Post#16 » by Wammy Giveaway » Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:33 am

Just because the Clippers will have nearly $60 million in cap space does not mean they'll strike gold with their free agents. Nobody is willing to come to the Clippers now for fear of being back stabbed just like they did when they wooed Blake Griffin and later traded him... even if they did it for the right thing, and boy did it hurt them. Losing history be darned (can't use curse words due to RealGM profanity settings), the Clippers were forced to accept the fact that highlight reel players net you losing seasons more often than winning ones. Jerry West saw it all too often: the Warriors were forced to trade fan favorite Monta Ellis because they were going nowhere, and they paid for it with big boos from the Bay Area fan base. Only did they start making the playoffs consistently and finally winning a title in their third consecutive playoff visit were they forgiven by those same fans who booed the front office.

So Clippers say they're going to compete, but every blogger in the web projects the Clippers are going to tank. Even one commentator on this board suggested Jerry West brought in players that were tailor-made for Doc River's coaching weaknesses as a way to tank unintentionally. If the Clippers have a single-digit winning record and the loss tally is way up there in the 70s, just for a shot at a no. 1 pick with the belief that no. 1 picks guarantee you a superstar, free agents are going to avoid them for the foreseeable future. They did this before with Michael Olowokandi - thought he would be a superstar, believed in his coming of age story, and were disappointed that he failed to backup on his stalwart college run. Further exasperating the situation, if the want to compete is true, they'll certainly fall short, an above .500 record where they'll fall one or two games away from 8th seed, giving them a technical losing season. They'll most certainly get another late lottery pick after all the good ones have been chosen by the teams who lose well. This is elite mediocrity caused by a split personality between the front office and the coaching staff, and if Jerry West isn't keeping the two departments honest with each other, hello 16-year playoff drought. So what are they doing, tanking for a pick or competing for a playoff spot?

The answer is a shocker: they're exhibiting.

Think of the 2018-19 season as a trial run. Shai-Gilgeous Alexander and Jerome Robinson will be showcased throughout the season. The team is going to miss the playoffs, but they'll have tons of assets for other teams to drool their delights on, not to mention the rookies gaining a feeler for the NBA. If the rookies perform well, they'll have suitors to take bad contracts off their hands to improve their cap space, maybe help teams desperate for a playoff run or to complete their championship quest. Otherwise, the Clippers will have already planned their Microsoft Powerpoint presentation for future free agents: "look at the skill set and determination of Shai Guy and Brock-Rob - now picture Gilgeous dialing dimes and defending, Jerome javelining the ball into the hole like in a joust, and you in the middle surprising the opposition with a Sudden Death Shot for the ultimate V."

If the Clippers want to make great use of their cap space, they will need a face. Not necessarily a face of the franchise, but a face that expresses possibility. Shai-Guy and Brock-Rob will give them that, but it's up to them to perform. Exhibit well, and the 29 other teams will have millions of reasons to worry about the Clippers in 2019-20.
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Post#17 » by Dynamix » Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:51 am

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Post#18 » by TheNewEra » Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:10 pm

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Post#20 » by Dunken Dave » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:56 pm

IDK how much we'd save but a buyout/stretch of Danilo's contract next year seems to be a be a likely possibility, especially if he plays less than 65 games this year. Who knows, as an "expiring" maybe his contract becomes tradeable?
I see us trading for a young disgruntled/under performing player with great potential in a better environment, and adding one max player in fa as a possibility. If we could manage to extend and keep Tobias out of the trade, we'd be ready to compete for the po again.

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