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Political Roundtable Part XXII

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#361 » by Wizardspride » Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:21 am

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pancakes3 wrote:You can still be conservative, be anti-socialism, pro-capitalism, while at the same time recognizing the dog whistle.

This is about basic human decency.

Candace Owens is despicable.


Candace Owens is a fraud who's milking the (Please Use More Appropriate Word) Trump supporters for money.


Yeah, looking at her past, the sudden conversion to GOP mouthpiece is "interesting".

President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#362 » by Pointgod » Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:58 am

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JazzyPhinz wrote:Trump cancels scheduled pay raise for federal workers.
Here's a fox link for the few trumpers in here.

Trump boasts about booming economy and low unemployment but we cant afford the pay raise due to the tax cuts for the wealthy. So the rich get huge pay increases while normal workers get their scheduled raises canceled. Nice one.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/30/trump-cancels-planned-january-pay-increase-for-federal-workers.html


just heard this on NPR and the explicit reason given for the decision (by the admin)
was falling federal revenues. Oh course the admin didn't say this was their fault
and that they lied about the tax reform when they said it would raise revenue.

Soc security recipients, you're next. Bring your own vaseline. We can't afford
that either.


But you see Conservative mouth breathers like SD20 sucking at Trumps manboobs while completely ignoring the fact that this tax cut was just a giveaway to the ultra rich. It's a pretty simple and obvious formula why the tax cuts are leading to record deficits. Except when you point this out they can't be reasoned with. And SD20 is supposedly one of the smarter ones :roll:
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#363 » by Pointgod » Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:16 am

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You guys are arguing with a rabid anti Clinton and anti Democratic party whacko. When after he's been pointed out where he's wrong from his own article he just ignores it and makes up his own facts. This is what happens when you take people like Glen Greenwald as gospel.


And you're a rabid hillary whore. You watch conspiracy theorists like Rachel Maddow, who's a running joke btw, and take her nonsense as gospel. You're as much a partisan hack as a loyalist Trump supporter. Unlike you and the other hillary whores, I don't wave pompoms like a brainwashed moron for a candidate. I support POLICIES, period. If you're part of the DC swamp, I don't care if you're a D or an R...GTFO!


Awww you're so adorable when you try to be a tough guy. First of all I'm a neutral observer who's not even American so your insane obsession with calling me some Hillary supporter just shows how reactionary you are. Plus I'm on your of the political spectrum since I live in a socialist country that you want to emulate. I'm just call things like I see them and rely on actual facts and evidence instead of pre established biases. Fact is Hillary was the most qualified candidate running and got screwed our of the Presidency by a combination of Russia and Comey. Another fact is that Bernie wasn't screwed out of the primaries he just ran a poor campaign and went up against a more recognised politician. Another fact is that only a complete moron would think the way to get Progressive policies passed is to have a divided Democratic party and let Republicans win. Finally I realize that the idea of a Socialist paradise is way down the line. Americans as a whole are too selfish and individualistic to accept the type of sacrifices and changes that come with implementing more Progressive policies. That's why a lot of Bernies ideas while well intentioned aren't completely honest about the costs that are required to implement these programs.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#364 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:56 am

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Pointgod wrote:
You guys are arguing with a rabid anti Clinton and anti Democratic party whacko. When after he's been pointed out where he's wrong from his own article he just ignores it and makes up his own facts. This is what happens when you take people like Glen Greenwald as gospel.


And you're a rabid hillary whore. You watch conspiracy theorists like Rachel Maddow, who's a running joke btw, and take her nonsense as gospel. You're as much a partisan hack as a loyalist Trump supporter. Unlike you and the other hillary whores, I don't wave pompoms like a brainwashed moron for a candidate. I support POLICIES, period. If you're part of the DC swamp, I don't care if you're a D or an R...GTFO!


Awww you're so adorable when you try to be a tough guy. First of all I'm a neutral observer who's not even American so your insane obsession with calling me some Hillary supporter just shows how reactionary you are. Plus I'm on your of the political spectrum since I live in a socialist country that you want to emulate. I'm just call things like I see them and rely on actual facts and evidence instead of pre established biases. Fact is Hillary was the most qualified candidate running and got screwed our of the Presidency by a combination of Russia and Comey. Another fact is that Bernie wasn't screwed out of the primaries he just ran a poor campaign and went up against a more recognised politician. Another fact is that only a complete moron would think the way to get Progressive policies passed is to have a divided Democratic party and let Republicans win. Finally I realize that the idea of a Socialist paradise is way down the line. Americans as a whole are too selfish and individualistic to accept the type of sacrifices and changes that come with implementing more Progressive policies. That's why a lot of Bernies ideas while well intentioned aren't completely honest about the costs that are required to implement these programs.


Wait...so you live in a socialist country? Which one? and why is it so good that we should want that in the USA? I mean do you have wealthy oligarchs...well tell me the country...i gotta see this. I'll do my own research.

I mean, here's the thing...isn't the point of socialism to redistribute the wealth? Like take the money from the uber wealthy aholes? Thats the point right? And I am on board with that...but if socialism is just a guise tom completely kill off the upwardly mobile middle class than count me the eff out!! I want a world where the uber wealthy dont exist and their money is redistributed....but i also want a world where harder workers and/or smarter or more talented workers can make more money.

there has to be tiers of income based on the jobs market place, IMO. just not at out of control wealth disparity.

for example...I would accept an income bracket something like;

top entertainers and top CEO's: 2-5 million per year given that they work at least 25 hours per week.
Top professional: 1-2 million
Top small business owners: 2-5 million
average pros: 100K-300K
average-top skilled emplowyees: 40K-80K
unkilled-low skilled: 25K-40K

and i think on the lower end this is what we basically have today. the problem is at the high end salaries are much bigger than above.

and of course corp profits are entirely out of control.
like i said, its a full rebuild.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#365 » by pancakes3 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:05 am

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#366 » by Wizardspride » Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:36 am

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#367 » by Wizardspride » Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:36 am

Thanks *******.

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#368 » by Wizardspride » Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:38 am

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#371 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:24 pm

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Hundreds of immigrant kids remain separated from parents


Hundreds of children separated from their parents at the US-Mexico border remain separated from them, including 497 in government custody, according to a new court filing Thursday.

The figure includes 22 children under the age of 5 still in government care. Six of those are 4 years old or younger whose parents were deported without them.

The court filing from the Justice Department and the American Civil Liberties Union case describes a slow and laborious process to try to connect the families that have been separated.

It remains unclear exactly how many parents were deported without their children, though it's in the hundreds. By the government's latest count, there are 322 deported parents who have children still in custody.

The government says it has contacted the vast majority of the deported parents, but the ACLU says that many of those parents have not yet been reached. Of the total deported parents the ACLU was alerted to, the network of law firms and nongovernmental organizations working on the effort has spoken with 279 thus far, the ACLU said.

Earlier this summer, the judge set a July 26 deadline for reunifying all eligible families who were separated at the border. Deported parents have remained the most difficult group to reunite.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#372 » by TGW » Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:36 pm

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Some random troll wrote:Not to sound negative, but this team is owned by an arrogant cheapskate, managed by a moron and coached by an idiot. Recipe for disaster.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#373 » by TGW » Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:57 pm

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#374 » by queridiculo » Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:16 pm

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So, do you basically just have write off a good 30-40% of the countries voting public as abject morons?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#375 » by dobrojim » Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:26 pm

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You left out, You Can't Make This Stuff Up!
A lot of what we call 'thought' is just mental activity

When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression

Those who are convinced of absurdities, can be convinced to commit atrocities
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#376 » by dobrojim » Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:29 pm

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Now we have reports of a significant increase in the number of
in all likelihood, citizens, being denied passports even if they
have the proper papers.

Not racist at all.
A lot of what we call 'thought' is just mental activity

When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression

Those who are convinced of absurdities, can be convinced to commit atrocities
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#377 » by Pointgod » Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:32 pm

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So, do you basically just have write off a good 30-40% of the countries voting public as abject morons?


It's called the GOP playbook.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#378 » by JWizmentality » Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:46 pm

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So, do you basically just have write off a good 30-40% of the countries voting public as abject morons?


Well yes. The GOP have made Education a bad word. Being educated = elitist liberal. They keep their lemmings drugged up and stupid. Just getting an education in this country is becoming reserved for the super rich 1%. Sure, you can go get an education but you leave with massive debt. Many are foregoing that. The meme has gone from Ugly Americans to just Stupid Americans.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#379 » by TGW » Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:54 pm

LOL Donna Brazile is salty that her superdelegate privileges have been revoked :lol:

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXII 

Post#380 » by gtn130 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:04 pm

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So, do you basically just have write off a good 30-40% of the countries voting public as abject morons?


Yes

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