2018 Free Agency and Trade Discussion continued

Post #1581 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:05 pm

BobbieL wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
I don't hate this move in a vacuum but considering what McD gave up for Knight and Chriss isn't this like getting super drunk and puking on the floor then getting credit for cleaning it up the next morning.

LOL I was trying to decide if he was serious and then saw your post. We trade an unprotected Lakers pick, Bogdanovic, and two other first rounders (13 and 28) for a bloated Ryan Anderson contract and the 46th pick.

I agree looking back - it’s hortible. But I am glad the Suns didn’t think they needed to keep Chriss and Knight to make it seem like those deals were working but costs are sunk so move ahead.

Now I don’t like seeing how little the Suns got but whatever. The Suns Core4 are Booker Ayton Jackson and Bridges - Okobo , Melton , Warren , whomever moving forward.

I agree you gotta cut bait and realize a sunk cost and move on.

PhxLax · Post #1582 » by **PhxLax** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:06 pm

sunsbum wrote:
PhxLax wrote:
Mjeezy2006 wrote:

momma mia this is rediculous.... we look like idiots now

we are going to have to part with JJ if we want a decent return

You say as if that's a bad thing. JJ stinks. Chalk it up to yet another bad draft pick just like Chriss, Bender, and now JJ. I'll take most opposing team starting PG's for JJ any day.

you stink. JJ just needs to learn to shoot.

I did not shower today, actually. And yes, JJ plays WAY better ball than me for sure, I'm not in the pros

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1583 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:09 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
LOL I was trying to decide if he was serious and then saw your post. We trade an unprotected Lakers pick, Bogdanovic, and two other first rounders (13 and 28) for a bloated Ryan Anderson contract and the 46th pick.

I agree looking back - it’s hortible. But I am glad the Suns didn’t think they needed to keep Chriss and Knight to make it seem like those deals were working but costs are sunk so move ahead.

Now I don’t like seeing how little the Suns got but whatever. The Suns Core4 are Booker Ayton Jackson and Bridges - Okobo , Melton , Warren , whomever moving forward.

I agree you gotta cut bait and realize a sunk cost and move on.

Absolutely. This is similar to firing Watson last year; its was the right move but didn't change the fact that hiring him in the first place was the bad decision. At some point McD needs to be held accountable.

GoCeltics123 · Post #1584 » by **GoCeltics123** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:11 pm

8on wrote:Absolutely no way we can’t get Terry Rozier. Boston cannot afford to bring him back.

I don't think we'd trade him unless we were 100% sure Kyrie is coming back. Which we aren't.

We definitely are optimistic, especially with Woj/Shams saying they believe we're the favorites for him in free agency, but you can't be 100% sure. So you bring Terry into the offseason just to make sure, if Kyrie stays then Terry leaves. If Kyrie leaves, then Terry stays.

BobbieL · Post #1585 » by **BobbieL** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:12 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
BobbieL wrote: I agree looking back - it’s hortible. But I am glad the Suns didn’t think they needed to keep Chriss and Knight to make it seem like those deals were working but costs are sunk so move ahead.

Now I don’t like seeing how little the Suns got but whatever. The Suns Core4 are Booker Ayton Jackson and Bridges - Okobo , Melton , Warren , whomever moving forward.

I agree you gotta cut bait and realize a sunk cost and move on.

Absolutely. This is similar to firing Watson last year; its was the right move but didn't change the fact that hiring him in the first place was the bad decision. At some point McD needs to be held accountable.

Very true. This is his year to get the team on track. I think he is signed through 2020 so basically if they stink this year, only one year of eating his contract.

YouTube · Post #1586 » by **Kerrsed** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:14 pm

I still believe the smartest move we could make is going after PatBev.

Read on Twitter

sunsbum · Post #1587 » by **sunsbum** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:15 pm

like i said all along. I think Quese was sarvers pick and Bender was Mcd's.

8on · Post #1588 » by **8on** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:16 pm

Two things McD consistently does:
1) move on from sunk costs
2) bring in pieces he think will help us win, regardless of how it affects chemistry

We can’t afford to settle, so I’m happy that those are patterns.

Post #1589 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:20 pm

rcc8884 wrote:
8on wrote:STOP LISTENING TO GAMBO. McD doesn't like him. He pretends he knows things, but he doesn’t know anything. Stop it. How many times do we have to learn this lesson?

Lol. Remember the draft when he would "report" something and a minute later he was proven wrong?

He can be right at times....that is, when he copies WOJ's tweets and tweets them out as if they are his own.

NE1Care · Post #1590 » by **NE1Care** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:20 pm

8on wrote:Absolutely no way we can’t get Terry Rozier. Boston cannot afford to bring him back.

How many negatives are in that statement? I had to read it twice just to see if we have a chance or not.

Saberestar · Post #1591 » by **Saberestar** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:23 pm

sunsbum wrote:like i said all along. I think Quese was sarvers pick and Bender was Mcd's.

A few times was said around the draft that Bender was McD's pick and Chriss was Watson's pick.

YouTube · Post #1592 » by **Kerrsed** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:28 pm

Read on Twitter

Some PatBev love from Dave King!

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1593 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:30 pm

Saberestar wrote:
sunsbum wrote:like i said all along. I think Quese was sarvers pick and Bender was Mcd's.

A few times was said around the draft that Bender was McD's pick and Chriss was Watson's pick.

If that's true McD hired Watson so he gets to own the Chriss mistake. Sarver gets to own all the mistakes because he employed the people making them.

Saberestar · Post #1594 » by **Saberestar** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:34 pm

Kerrsed wrote:I still believe the smartest move we could make is going after PatBev.

Read on Twitter

Yeah, I would offer them Troy Daniels, Mil pick and a 2nd.

sunsbum · Post #1595 » by **sunsbum** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:38 pm

Kerrsed wrote:

Read on Twitter

Some PatBev love from Dave King!

Im interested in never hearing dave kings opinion again.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1596 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:41 pm

Saberestar wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:I still believe the smartest move we could make is going after PatBev.

Read on Twitter

Yeah, I would offer them Troy Daniels, Mil pick and a 2nd.

Really? I like Berverly well enough but I'm not giving up a 1st rounder for 1 year of him. It's not like he's going to put them over the top into contention or anything. Hell just sign him for free next summer.

Mjee · Post #1597 » by **Mjee** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:42 pm

I am starting to think that Ryan McD should be fired.... why make the deal last night without knowing if we could get a solid point guard in return somewhere else.

Now we are screwed ...

YouTube · Post #1598 » by **Kerrsed** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:49 pm

Re-create a better version of the 2016 Houston Rockets.

PG: PatBev ------> PatBev
SG: Harden ------> Booker
SF: Ariza ------> Ariza
PF: Anderson ------> Anderson
C: Capela ------> Ayton

BobbieL · Post #1599 » by **BobbieL** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:49 pm

Mjeezy2006 wrote:I am starting to think that Ryan McD should be fired.... why make the deal last night without knowing if we could get a solid point guard in return somewhere else.

Now we are screwed ...

NOT sure how screwed. Suns needed a PG yesterday

Ryan has not done a good job but this doesn’t put the Suns over a barrel .

Blonde · Post #1600 » by **Blonde** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:57 pm

The Milwaukee pick is worth nothing until we trade it and it becomes one of the best assets in the league. Just like Chriss was a bust until he went to a contender. Just like Knight was the worst point guard in the league coming off a torn ACL until we traded him.

Still not interested in Terry Rozier.