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Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues

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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#361 » by j-ragg » Sat Sep 8, 2018 7:19 pm

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OrlandO wrote:Has to be Dwight... he rarely missed a game and played huge minutes each game.



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Why did that surprise you then? Doesn't Dwight lead most categories all-time?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#362 » by The Real Dalic » Sat Sep 8, 2018 7:56 pm

j-ragg wrote:Anyone see Isaac's tweet about abstinence? Came off pretty... dumb. (no agenda I promise)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#363 » by FFBlitzace » Sat Sep 8, 2018 9:18 pm

I think preaching abstinence before marriage is pretty naive, but young people absolutely need to be smarter about how they have sex. Whatever the sex ed situation is in public schools these days, it's obviously not working. If I didn't know any better, I'd think that our youth just flat out doesn't know how babies are made. I know that can't be true, but the evidence is starting to mount.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#364 » by tiderulz » Sat Sep 8, 2018 11:26 pm

FFBlitzace wrote:I think preaching abstinence before marriage is pretty naive, but young people absolutely need to be smarter about how they have sex. Whatever the sex ed situation is in public schools these days, it's obviously not working. If I didn't know any better, I'd think that our youth just flat out doesn't know how babies are made. I know that can't be true, but the evidence is starting to mount.

not sure why you say sex-ed isnt working. i believe we have some of the lowest rates of teenage pregnancy that we have seen in quite awhile.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#365 » by NYG » Sun Sep 9, 2018 12:25 am

Would the Magic add a top 8 protected 2019 1st to a Rozier and Morris for Augustin swap?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#366 » by Knightro » Sun Sep 9, 2018 1:00 am

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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#367 » by OrlandO » Sun Sep 9, 2018 1:07 am

NYG wrote:Would the Magic add a top 8 protected 2019 1st to a Rozier and Morris for Augustin swap?

No. Protection way too weak for a team that will still be bad. Rozier isn't worth a lottery pick at this point... he's still unproven.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#368 » by MoMM » Sun Sep 9, 2018 2:37 am

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NYG wrote:Would the Magic add a top 8 protected 2019 1st to a Rozier and Morris for Augustin swap?

Rozier isn't worth a lottery pick at this point... he's still unproven.

Isn't a late lottery pick unproven too?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#369 » by OrlandO » Sun Sep 9, 2018 2:42 am

MoMM wrote:
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NYG wrote:Would the Magic add a top 8 protected 2019 1st to a Rozier and Morris for Augustin swap?

Rozier isn't worth a lottery pick at this point... he's still unproven.

Isn't a late lottery pick unproven too?

A late lotto pick won't be 25 and take a big chunk of the cap.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#370 » by OrlandO » Sun Sep 9, 2018 2:47 am

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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#371 » by Def Swami » Sun Sep 9, 2018 2:51 am

OrlandO wrote:
MoMM wrote:
OrlandO wrote:Rozier isn't worth a lottery pick at this point... he's still unproven.

Isn't a late lottery pick unproven too?

A late lotto pick won't be 25 and take a big chunk of the cap.

That late lotto pick will assuredly be a great defender who may or may not be able to play offense.



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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#372 » by OrlandO » Sun Sep 9, 2018 4:20 am

Def Swami wrote:
OrlandO wrote:
MoMM wrote:Isn't a late lottery pick unproven too?

A late lotto pick won't be 25 and take a big chunk of the cap.

That late lotto pick will assuredly be a great defender who may or may not be able to play offense.



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And that lotto pick could be a much better player than Rozier. It could also be used on a better player in a trade. It also could be unnecessary to give up such an asset for an expiring non-star who many think can be had in restricted free agency.

Is it a given Rozier will look good on defense on this team away from the brad stevens system? Is it a given he won't regress this season? Is it a given we would even re-sign him if he plays poorly and/or gets a ridiculous offer sheet?

I would not burn a lotto pick on an inefficient scorer who could be had in free agency. If any team was willing to give up a lotto pick for him based on what he showed last season the Celts would have already traded him. Let me see what he looks like for a few months this season and we can reassess his value then.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#373 » by T-Cat » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:22 am

Does anyone think we'll sign The Greek Freak in 2 years? :o
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#374 » by yoyojw17 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:06 am

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I guess we can see how he connected with Kemba Walker. Really happy to see that he is bridging the gap with players so quickly! :D

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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#375 » by j-ragg » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:07 am

T-Cat wrote:Does anyone think we'll sign The Greek Freak in 2 years? :o

No.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#376 » by Def Swami » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:57 am

OrlandO wrote:
Def Swami wrote:
OrlandO wrote:A late lotto pick won't be 25 and take a big chunk of the cap.

That late lotto pick will assuredly be a great defender who may or may not be able to play offense.



:clown:

And that lotto pick could be a much better player than Rozier. It could also be used on a better player in a trade. It also could be unnecessary to give up such an asset for an expiring non-star who many think can be had in restricted free agency.

Is it a given Rozier will look good on defense on this team away from the brad stevens system? Is it a given he won't regress this season? Is it a given we would even re-sign him if he plays poorly and/or gets a ridiculous offer sheet?

I would not burn a lotto pick on an inefficient scorer who could be had in free agency. If any team was willing to give up a lotto pick for him based on what he showed last season the Celts would have already traded him. Let me see what he looks like for a few months this season and we can reassess his value then.

I agree with you. I was being facetious.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#377 » by T-Cat » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:18 am

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I guess we can see how he connected with Kemba Walker. Really happy to see that he is bridging the gap with players so quickly! :D

Strap on boys n girls...... I meant in... lol


Hopefully he's allow to play with the ball in his hands more!

With his size, ability and improving skills he should be utilized better for us to win!

Here's an article a while back on AG wanting to play point guard :

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/4505819-aaron-gordon-arizona-freshman-blake-griffin-comparison-versatility-sean-miller
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#378 » by pepe1991 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:22 am

T-Cat wrote:
yoyojw17 wrote:
Knightro wrote:
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I guess we can see how he connected with Kemba Walker. Really happy to see that he is bridging the gap with players so quickly! :D

Strap on boys n girls...... I meant in... lol


Hopefully he's allow to play with the ball in his hands more!

With his size, ability and improving skills he should be utilized better for us to win!

Here's an article a while back on AG wanting to play point guard :

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/4505819-aaron-gordon-arizona-freshman-blake-griffin-comparison-versatility-sean-miller



lol, that's oxymoron.
He should play with ball less to help team win more .

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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#379 » by SOUL » Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:00 am

AG at PG is silly but he can be useful when he's engaged and passing just as another ball handler after getting a rebound/fastbreak. We're on year 5-6 of inefficient long twos Vucevic offense, I don't get what the point is of letting players develop and suck in our bad years if we're just going to point to their weaknesses as a reason why they can't get better. AG had a really good first half of the season, then played too reckless and tried to do stuff he wasn't comfortable with the rest of it.. but these are the years to do that. Now there's a fine line between knowing what you need to work on and getting better and then also being Carmelo Anthony who feels he is entitled on offense and can't change who he is. AG doesn't strike me as that type.

Far too many players in every sport develop different areas at different rates/years and shouldn't be told "you were good and bad at this at 20 and 21 years old, this is what your future is going to be now because of it". I'm interested to see where Aaron's offense goes this season.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread ‘17-18’: XVIII: The Long Wait Continues 

Post#380 » by drsd » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:24 am

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