Clippers Might Relocate... To Inglewood: WELCOME TO THE INTUIT DOME

WC NBA Fan · Post #101 » by **WC NBA Fan** » Mon Sep 3, 2018 6:16 pm

wco81 wrote:Is it worth paying PSLs to get season tickets?

Probably higher parking and concessions?

I seriously doubt that Ballmer will ask for PSL's. Those are dedicated to football stadiums and the rare arena situation like I assume is going on with the Warriors.

WC NBA Fan · Post #102 » by **WC NBA Fan** » Mon Sep 3, 2018 6:24 pm

wco81 wrote:New arena means higher revenues potential for the team with PSLs and generally higher ticket and concessions.

Owners who aren't as rich as Ballmer needs new arenas, especially if the current arena is old. That is the case with the Warriors. Their owners don't have deep pockets and they see the new arena not only for higher basketball revenues but non sporting events such as concerts.

I would assume the concern venue market in LA is very competitive though.

It's a competitive market but it's such a large market that I could see them getting some overflow concerts.

You'll also see lots of other non-concert events at the Clipper arena. Boxing, MMA, WWE, college basketball, maybe get the Sparks to move since this arena will be better suited for basketball, local HS basketball championships, conventions & HS graduations may all take place there.

Akklaim1 · Post #103 » by **Akklaim1** » Wed Sep 5, 2018 7:51 am

It makes sense for Chuck the Condor to change his jersey number to 310. It's never too early for that. The Clippers should have that "West Side" identity like the Cubs and White Sox with North Side and and South Side respectively.

Neddy · Post #104 » by **Neddy** » Thu Sep 6, 2018 5:38 am

OK.... I left LA somewhere in mid 90s.

I remember 213, and I remember 818.

just what the F is 310????

Clemenza · Post #105 » by **Clemenza** » Thu Sep 6, 2018 5:46 am

WC NBA Fan wrote:
wco81 wrote:New arena means higher revenues potential for the team with PSLs and generally higher ticket and concessions.

Owners who aren't as rich as Ballmer needs new arenas, especially if the current arena is old. That is the case with the Warriors. Their owners don't have deep pockets and they see the new arena not only for higher basketball revenues but non sporting events such as concerts.

I would assume the concern venue market in LA is very competitive though.

It's a competitive market but it's such a large market that I could see them getting some overflow concerts.

You'll also see lots of other non-concert events at the Clipper arena. Boxing, MMA, WWE, college basketball, maybe get the Sparks to move since this arena will be better suited for basketball, local HS basketball championships, conventions & HS graduations may all take place there.

Forget all that. I got a strong feeling Ballmer could ask the Anaheim Ducks to move in with him. I hear they're looking for a new arena as well. If they're strictly content and prideful on being known as an Orange County team then they'll stay put but if they have any desire for more exposure and a piece of the more lucrative LA pie then they're headed to Inglewood. Even Arte Moreno wishes his Angles played in LA country. Soon as he bought the team he started the process of dumping the Anaheim name for the LA moniker without asking anybody. In a few years its going to be tough to get eyeballs on your franchise if you're not playing in either in DTLA or Inglewood.

Clemenza · Post #106 » by **Clemenza** » Thu Sep 6, 2018 5:49 am

Neddy wrote:OK.... I left LA somewhere in mid 90s.

I remember 213, and I remember 818.

just what the F is 310????

You're joking right? Even 310 is old. :lol:

There's a ton of them now

Akklaim1 · Post #107 » by **Akklaim1** » Thu Sep 6, 2018 6:13 am

213 dissolved over the years. Now it only covers downtown LA and a small part of Koreatown.

I'm really surprised that 818 covers a ton of area. From Glendale too all of the Valley. That's a lot. Even bigger than LA's 323. Not sure about the population difference, though. 323 might still be bigger.

Neddy · Post #108 » by **Neddy** » Fri Sep 7, 2018 3:19 am

Akklaim1 wrote:213 dissolved over the years. Now it only covers downtown LA and a small part of Koreatown.

Damnnnnnnn...... thanks for telling me that. I had no idea.

and as for 323.... lol wut?

Quake Griffin · Post #109 » by **Quake Griffin** » Fri Sep 7, 2018 11:12 am

Yeah. You’ve been gone a while.

LOL.

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Ranma · Post #110 » by **Ranma** » Wed Oct 3, 2018 5:18 am

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Ranma · Post #111 » by **Ranma** » Wed Oct 3, 2018 9:42 pm

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esqtvd · Post #112 » by **esqtvd** » Thu Oct 4, 2018 12:00 am

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over the objections of Barbara Boxer and other members of the political machine

it just took Ballmer a little while to figure out who to tighten up around LA

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Ranma · Post #113 » by **Ranma** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 8:33 pm

I sounds like Ballmer is paying the legal fees for Inglewood Mayor Butts as well as MSG footing the bill for a couple of community action groups.

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Nathan Fenno, Los Angeles Times (12/8/18)

The fight escalated Tuesday when Murphy’s Bowl LLC, the Clippers-controlled company behind the arena, countersued MSG in L.A. County Superior Court.

“The proposed Los Angeles Clippers Arena … is the latest in this series of projects that will reshape Inglewood and benefit its residents for decades,” the countersuit said. “MSG Forum LLC … fearing the competition it would face from a new arena in Inglewood, seeks to stop the Clippers Arena in its tracks.”

Last month, Inglewood attorneys from Miller Barondess filed a motion accusing Latham & Watkins, which represents MSG, of orchestrating anti-arena lawsuits by two community groups. The attorneys want a court order compelling Latham & Watkins to turn over documents about Uplift Inglewood and Inglewood Residents Against Takings and Evictions, known as IRATE, after the firm balked at producing the material.

In September, a judge ruled that the mayor could be held personally liable for damages in the fraud lawsuit.

“Who is paying the Mayor’s legal fees and whether he has been indemnified for MSG Forum’s claims is not relevant to this case,” Miller wrote.

During Butts’ deposition, the attorney described the information as “private and confidential.”

Inglewood denied a public records request by the L.A. Times for records of payments to the two law firms representing the city and its officials in the arena lawsuits.

Fight Intensifies Over Proposed Arena for Clippers in Inglewood

Akklaim1 · Post #114 » by **Akklaim1** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 8:48 pm

Would there be the same hurdles if it was the Lakers building an arena there?

Ranma · Post #115 » by **Ranma** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 9:45 pm

Akklaim1 wrote:Would there be the same hurdles if it was the Lakers building an arena there?

Probably with MSG owning the Forum unless Jeannie Buss and James Dolan worked out something beforehand, which I suspect Ballmer tried to do in attempting to buy the Forum previously. I believe Madison Square Garden rebuffed such a proposal, so Ballmer worked with Butts to get around that, which probably colors the situation as to why the legal battles have been so heated.

wco81 · Post #116 » by **wco81** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 10:16 pm

If Ballmer promised not to poach concerts and other entertainment events from the Forum, maybe MSG would drop its opposition?

Ranma · Post #117 » by **Ranma** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:38 am

wco81 wrote:If Ballmer promised not to poach concerts and other entertainment events from the Forum, maybe MSG would drop its opposition?

I don't see that happening. Ballmer would close himself off from a big portion of revenue stream by agreeing to that. Plus, with the backing of the city of Inglewood, he's pretty much in the driver's seat relative to MSG. Given the acrimony between the two parties I doubt that we'll see compromise. Even in a worst-case scenario, Ballmer would just have to look for another location, which admittedly proved fairly difficult for him to find a suitable and viable option.

Roscoe Sheed · Post #118 » by **Roscoe Sheed** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:24 am

Ballmer should just buy out msg and be done with Dolan

Ranma · Post #119 » by **Ranma** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:44 am

Roscoe Sheed wrote:Ballmer should just buy out msg and be done with Dolan

The Madison Square Garden Company owns the New York Knicks, Rangers and Liberty along with other properties and minor league teams, so Ballmer would be prohibited from buying the company since no owner can be in possession of two NBA teams to specifically avoid conflicts of interests.

Wammy Giveaway · Post #120 » by **Wammy Giveaway** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:47 am

Ranma wrote:
Roscoe Sheed wrote:Ballmer should just buy out msg and be done with Dolan

The Madison Square Garden Company owns the New York Knicks, Rangers and Liberty along with other properties and minor league teams, so Ballmer would be prohibited from buying the company since no owner can be in possession of two NBA teams to specifically avoid conflicts of interests.

Which is why I still think MSG's end game is to make it so difficult for Ballmer that he has no other choice but to move the Clippers to Seattle - better yet, cease Clipper operations completely and resurrect the Supersonics in their steed. As this court case is ongoing, I would not be surprised if MSG lawyers pulled this tactic to convince the judge into making relocation an order. Keep in mind, the Clippers have a no-relocation clause (see below), which means MSG will try to challenge the clause to win their case.

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But then the Knicks would be helping the Lakers, another conflict of interest.