Marcus Morris Questions Al-Farouq Aminu’s and Nikola Mirotic's ESPN Top 100 Rank

[TheBonzaiEffect]

GTFO with that low key racism. Niko was a beast last year. 18.7 PER, 57.7% TS, averaged a block and a steal per game, too. Marcus has literally zero argument over him.

[Alonzo_Morning]

Mirotic is light years better than Morris.

I'd also take Aminu but that could be debated I guess.

The 100 top players are basically guys capable of being top 3 guys on a roster. Morris isn't.

I'm def not a fan of either Morris twin but people here are talking like Miotic is some great player. He's a poor defender and has been up and down efficiency wise with his shooting. I wouldn't have put either in the top 100. Morris can at least be an average defender while I don't see much of a difference offensively.

Mirotic is actually a wonderful defender. Consistently asked to bang with bigger 5s and more than holds his own. Also a great rebounder

[Alonzo_Morning]

Mirotic ain't a top50 player.
That said, morris isn't even in the top100.

AGREED!!

Mmm salty

[RakimAbdulJabar]

I wouldn't take him ahead of Mirotic, but there are definitely some players he deserved to be ahead of.

I'd take Morris ahead of all the below players from the list

Fournier at 99

Winslow at 96

Fultz at 93

Pope at 92

Brogdon at 90

Roberson at 78

VanVleet at 74

Ball at 62

And if it's the playoffs I'm taking him ahead of Collison too

Why is Doncic at 63 without a single regular season game under his belt

Covington at 49 is a joke

Eric Gordon, Aaron Gordon and Gordon Hayward at 42, 41 and 40 feels like the writer just started going with names that popped into his head one after another.

Porter Jr at 38 is a joke

Beal ahead of Jaylen Brown? No thanks

Lowry ahead of Mitchell and Gobert? No thanks

[nedleeds]

Contract year and he's ass wounded.

[Asif16]

This dude talks way too damn much. It's like he replaced Crowder and Isiah Thomas in talkin outta their ass in a celtics uniform lmao

[Dupp]

Morris is actually terrible. Nikola is vastly superior. Dudes delusional

[homecourtloss]

He’s right.

No he’s not. Basketball boils down to players impacting the game in whatever they can to ensure that their team scores more per possession than it gives up to the other team. Mirotic and Aminu are strongly positive players because they play defense and in Mirotic’s case, good offense, too. Morris provides nothing and is a NEGATIVE player.

Player evaluations of other players are almost always the worst. Many of them seem stuck in the playground mentality of is theoretically better and it’s not based on objective measurements unless it’s obvious (LeBron, Curry, etc.)

[meekrab]

I wish he would just shut up. Guy is the biggest black hole in the league and it’s not even close.

Have you met Taj Gibson?

[Alonzo_Morning]

I wouldn't take him ahead of Mirotic, but there are definitely some players he deserved to be ahead of.

I'd take Morris ahead of all the below players from the list

Fournier at 99

Winslow at 96

Fultz at 93

Pope at 92

Brogdon at 90

Roberson at 78

VanVleet at 74

Ball at 62

And if it's the playoffs I'm taking him ahead of Collison too

Why is Doncic at 63 without a single regular season game under his belt

Covington at 49 is a joke

Eric Gordon, Aaron Gordon and Gordon Hayward at 42, 41 and 40 feels like the writer just started going with names that popped into his head one after another.

Porter Jr at 38 is a joke

Beal ahead of Jaylen Brown? No thanks

Lowry ahead of Mitchell and Gobert? No thanks

Just realised there are 2 Porter Jnr in the league

[BeatDaCavs420]

Dude all this dude does is cry

[Damkac]

He should be happy he is not in prison not complaining about rankings.

[everdiso]

Morris was one of the worst players in the entire league last year.

Man have these overrated Celtics swallowed their hype.

just shut up and play already.

[HollowEarth]

I wouldn't take him ahead of Mirotic, but there are definitely some players he deserved to be ahead of.

I'd take Morris ahead of all the below players from the list

Fournier at 99

Winslow at 96

Fultz at 93

Pope at 92

Brogdon at 90

Roberson at 78

VanVleet at 74

Ball at 62

And if it's the playoffs I'm taking him ahead of Collison too

Why is Doncic at 63 without a single regular season game under his belt

Covington at 49 is a joke

Eric Gordon, Aaron Gordon and Gordon Hayward at 42, 41 and 40 feels like the writer just started going with names that popped into his head one after another.

Porter Jr at 38 is a joke

Beal ahead of Jaylen Brown? No thanks

Lowry ahead of Mitchell and Gobert? No thanks

I would be happy if the Pelicans traded Mirotic for some of those dudes like Robert Covington or Robes. I'd be sad if they traded him for Marcus Morris. Roberson if he comes back healthy is the best perimeter defender the NBA. How is that not worthy of Top 100?

[RRFB]

He just sounds whiny and entitled. You don't earn respect by complaining about some ESPN article that didn't have your name in it.

[dorkestra]

GTFO with that low key racism. Niko was a beast last year. 18.7 PER, 57.7% TS, averaged a block and a steal per game, too. Marcus has literally zero argument over him.

Come on, you're going to randomly throw in the race card? Looks like he chose two guys at his position that he thinks he is better than. I have a feeling he is going based on his memory and experience playing against them. and not looking up PER, TS, etc

[Bird4Three]

He’s right.

No he’s not. Basketball boils down to players impacting the game in whatever they can to ensure that their team scores more per possession than it gives up to the other team. Mirotic and Aminu are strongly positive players because they play defense and in Mirotic’s case, good offense, too. Morris provides nothing and is a NEGATIVE player.

Player evaluations of other players are almost always the worst. Many of them seem stuck in the playground mentality of is theoretically better and it’s not based on objective measurements unless it’s obvious (LeBron, Curry, etc.)

Yes he is.

[homecourtloss]

He’s right.

Is he? Based on what?

Last year...https://bit.ly/2ChiwPa

Pretty clear that Mirotic is better than Morris at.... everything. I do think Marcus Morris is circumstantially a better defender in one-on-one matches. But Morris has been a bad defender his whole career until last year in Boston. Mirotic balled out last year. He played at an all-star level in Chicago and then was a huge part of New Orlean's post-Cousins surge.

Aminu. Sure I can see why Morris things that. He's a better iso scorer than Aminu by far. But Aminu is a much more valuable defender than Morris or Mirotic. He protects the rim a little bit, switches handily across 4 positions and rebounds the ball pretty decently.

Morris to me was always broke man's Melo. He's got some iso shimmy in his game, a pull up, and a really solid turn around, but he's blah in every other area of the game. He think verrrrry highly of himself because he's a good 1 on 1 player.

For me, Mirotic is on a higher level than these guys. Aminu and Morris, i'd take based on need, but I'd probably want Aminu in most instances unless I was desperate for some iso offense off the bench. He did defend Lebron pretty well for 2 games last year though.

He's not better than Mirotic, but he's still got a point. If Mirotic is 50th and Aminu 100th then there should be space in between for Morris to get some love. He's only marginally worse than Nikola and I'd say a good bit better than Aminu.

He’s not marginally worse than Mirotic—he’s categorically worse. Morris is worse defensively overall and worse offensively.

He’s not better than Aminu. If you want to say overall skills well then maybe, but as far as helping a team win, no. Morris’ better overall skills (debateable) do not translate to helping a team win. Aminu can guard 2-4 of of every team and often the 5 in small ball and 1s for stretches. His elite defense is easy to plug into lineups.

Morris does not do ANYTHING at an elite level. He’s a negative defender and a negative offensive player.

[Ice Trae]

Mirotic is light years better than Morris.

I'd also take Aminu but that could be debated I guess.

The 100 top players are basically guys capable of being top 3 guys on a roster. Morris isn't.

I'm def not a fan of either Morris twin but people here are talking like Miotic is some great player. He's a poor defender and has been up and down efficiency wise with his shooting. I wouldn't have put either in the top 100. Morris can at least be an average defender while I don't see much of a difference offensively.

Always gotta be some dude who sees an unathletic player and immediately label him as a poor defender. Mirotic is a solid defender & MILES ahead of Marcus Morris in that regard.

[Cappy_Smurf]

Everybody ranked 51-100 should have similar complaints about Mirotic.

So what was it like living in a cave with Marcus all of last season?