CeltsfaninDC wrote:Andrew McCeltic wrote:CeltsfaninDC wrote:Looks like either Ernie or Scotty are going soon.
There was also some rumors about a Dec timeline for a trade due to player restrictions. Any chance we could get Beal out of this fire sale?
Is the problem Beal, Wall, both, or are they both fine personality-wise but toxic in combination?
I don't think they've ever meshed well and will probably flourish when they get separated (soon). I have always liked Wall's game when he has players around him that he trusts. He drives and dishes, he runs a great fastbreak and can get by anyone off the dribble still. Beal is a guy that needs the ball and if has it then Wall doesn't and he has no purpose in the offense. They are a poor man's Harden/Westbrook.
Not sure about flourishing, but that’s my impression, too. They’re both pretty good players who aren’t good enough to carry a team by themselves and are too evenly matched for one to beat out the other as team leader. Wall wants to pound the ball like Rondo and quarterback an offense - Beal wants to freelance in an offense based on ball movement. It’s tough to imagine either of them landing on a team where they get what they want.
I think their tension could be managed if they were winning, and the underlying problem is Grunfeld - the backcourt has always underwhelmed, and he’d never been able to put substantial talent around them - only band-aids - Pierce, Gortat, Porter - who have postponed an overhaul without obviating one.