Brandon Knight and KCP

DCintheD · Post #1 » by **DCintheD** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:02 pm

trade Reggie to Phoenix, Ariza to Lakers, KCP to pistons.

trade leuer and galloway to Houston for Knight

Give former piston draftees a chance to rehab and develop under a coach like Casey.

This trade is win win. Reggie needs to be out. Kcp is expiring and is still young enough to breakout in the right environment for himself. Give Knight a chance to rehab himself with the team that drafted him. I loved both these guys when we had them. Piston dna until Kcp let lebron’s boy get in his ear. He needs to humble himself and get back to his roots. Casey can bring something out of him.

Kilo · Post #2 » by **Kilo** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:41 pm

How about Reggie for Knight. I don't think we need KCP here - not to mention Ariza and KCP are expirings so we'd have to add a FRP in that deal. Kennard, Bullock, Galloway, Thomas, Brown - we have enough 2-guards.

I wouldn't be opposed to Jackson for Knight though. Would allow them to trade Gordon who seems to be a bit of a malcontent there now with his role - to get wing depth they desire.

vege · Post #3 » by **vege** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:49 pm

Why you have to remind me we wasted 2 lotto picks in those terrible players? No we should not want them back, they're just terrible players, the thrash we have right now is not as bad as them. Reggie Jackson at least have more assists than TO, unlike Knight when he was healthy, and KCP can't shoot and he talked a lot of **** when he left.

MotownMadness · Post #4 » by **MotownMadness** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:02 pm

I was already thinking of trying to do that 3 team trade to dump Reggie but Phoenix would want a asset to get it done taking on a extra year. Enter Stanley Johnson who played college out there as well and I doubt we want to pay at the end of the year anyways.

Pistons get- KCP (expiring)
Suns get- Reggie and SJ
Lakers get- Ariza

Would need to find a capable PG for the rest of the year but would love to turn Reggie’s deal I to a expiring then work on trying to move Leuer and Galloway before FA.

Billl · Post #5 » by **Billl** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:07 pm

If we can trade RJ for expirings, then sure. I can't see that happening though. We definitely shouldn't be including picks in salary dumps.

tradez401 · Post #6 » by **tradez401** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:51 pm

reggie/galloway for evan fournier/augustin.

vege · Post #7 » by **vege** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:31 pm

MotownMadness wrote:I was already thinking of trying to do that 3 team trade to dump Reggie but Phoenix would want a asset to get it done taking on a extra year. Enter Stanley Johnson who played college out there as well and I doubt we want to pay at the end of the year anyways.

Pistons get- KCP (expiring)
Suns get- Reggie and SJ
Lakers get- Ariza

Would need to find a capable PG for the rest of the year but would love to turn Reggie’s deal I to a expiring then work on trying to move Leuer and Galloway before FA.

There is no chance we take KCP over Ariza. If Phoenix is fine doing Reggie and SJ for Ariza we just keep Ariza.

The_Irony · Post #8 » by **The_Irony** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:39 pm

MotownMadness · Post #9 » by **MotownMadness** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:58 pm

vege wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:I was already thinking of trying to do that 3 team trade to dump Reggie but Phoenix would want a asset to get it done taking on a extra year. Enter Stanley Johnson who played college out there as well and I doubt we want to pay at the end of the year anyways.

Pistons get- KCP (expiring)
Suns get- Reggie and SJ
Lakers get- Ariza

Would need to find a capable PG for the rest of the year but would love to turn Reggie’s deal I to a expiring then work on trying to move Leuer and Galloway before FA.

There is no chance we take KCP over Ariza. If Phoenix is fine doing Reggie and SJ for Ariza we just keep Ariza.

Makes more sense

Kilo · Post #10 » by **Kilo** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:18 pm

KCP has a no-trade clause as well and Rich Paul will only move him to a team where he's getting at least heavy rotation minutes. Kentavious is probably looking at a full MLE deal at most this coming season. He made 30M over the last two, so probably equal to what he would have made by signing here, but if he only gets a MLE deal the next three he's lost probably over 15M.

He won't come here to time share with Kennard, Bullock, Galloway, Brown and Thomas. And he won't swallow pride to come here and have it pointed out how much he screwed up by not taking his RFA offer from Overpay Stan.

rmfc · Post #11 » by **rmfc** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:52 pm

We should try to get better players than those 2 guys.

ChipButty · Post #12 » by **ChipButty** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:04 am

Kilo wrote:How about Reggie for Knight. I don't think we need KCP here - not to mention Ariza and KCP are expirings so we'd have to add a FRP in that deal. Kennard, Bullock, Galloway, Thomas, Brown - we have enough 2-guards.

I wouldn't be opposed to Jackson for Knight though. Would allow them to trade Gordon who seems to be a bit of a malcontent there now with his role - to get wing depth they desire.

I don't see them having any interest in RJ. I'd definitely be willing to trade for Knight though. From what I read they were looking for help on the wings and were willing to include at least 1 FRP to dump Knight's salary. This works for us as we are not going to have many ways to add depth this offseason and we are going to need a backup guard anyway. We could even include PHX in the deal.

Pistons In: Knight, Rockets 1st rounder
Pistons Out: Bullock, Jackson

Suns In: Jackson, Rockets 2nd rounder
Suns Out: Ariza

Rockets In: Ariza, Bullock
Rockets Out: Knight, 1st, 2nd

Save us a few million in salary for this year and next year too.

bstein14 · Post #13 » by **bstein14** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:06 am

Phoenix is still young and trying to get better, I doubt they would do Ariza for RJ but they MIGHT do Ariza for RJ + Stanley.

As good as Stanley has breifly looked this season since going to the bench, that's probably a deal we shouldn't pass on.

Although, I do think Ariza and Blake have some bad blood from last year after CP joined the Rockets.

bstein14 · Post #14 » by **bstein14** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:35 am

Reportedly, a Trevor Ariza deal has been agreed to (he's out of their lineup tonight) they just have to wait for the 15th when he can officially be traded.

tradez401 · Post #15 » by **tradez401** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:48 am

why would ppl want brandon knight back? hes no good chillin down in the g league.

Post #16 » by **dVs33** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:56 am

bstein14 wrote:Reportedly, a Trevor Ariza deal has been agreed to (he's out of their lineup tonight) they just have to wait for the 15th when he can officially be traded.

With who?

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Kilo · Post #17 » by **Kilo** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:00 pm

dVs33 wrote:
bstein14 wrote:Reportedly, a Trevor Ariza deal has been agreed to (he's out of their lineup tonight) they just have to wait for the 15th when he can officially be traded.
With who?

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Lakers and mystery 3rd team. I think it's Minnesota. KCP makes a ton of sense there, and they have an extra point guard. Others think it's KCP and Milwaukee FRP going to Philly and Fultz going to PHX.

vege · Post #18 » by **vege** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:34 pm

dVs33 wrote:
bstein14 wrote:Reportedly, a Trevor Ariza deal has been agreed to (he's out of their lineup tonight) they just have to wait for the 15th when he can officially be traded.
With who?

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Probably Ariza to the lakers, KCP to Philly and Fultz to Phoenix with picks involved.

The_Irony · Post #19 » by **The_Irony** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:17 pm

tradez401 wrote:why would ppl want brandon knight back? hes no good chillin down in the g league.

haven't seen or heard about him in years.except shaqtin a fool of course.

this board gets embarrassing and idiotic after a losing streak

ChipButty · Post #20 » by **ChipButty** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:26 pm

The_Irony wrote:
tradez401 wrote:why would ppl want brandon knight back? hes no good chillin down in the g league.

haven't seen or heard about him in years.except shaqtin a fool of course.

this board gets embarrassing and idiotic after a losing streak

Because Ish and Bullock are expiring and Houston is reportedly willing to add a pick or two to a deal that includes Knight. We get a backup guard, another deal that expires at the same time as RJ/Galloway/Leuer (making approx 50 million in expirings) and get extra pick(s). there's nothing idiotic about the idea at all.