12/23 | G32: Minnesota Timberwolves at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST

[spearsy23]

This one is completely on Russ. Just a mind boggling decision to double team Towns for absolutely no reason and leave Covington for wide open 3. Just a moronic decision.

Can you double team someone who is wide open?

[spearsy23]

do you think he's a 32% three point shooter moving forward?

Do you believe that every shot a guy takes is just as likely to go in as his career averages say?

sure, all else being equal. we can't account for things like unreported injuries, rest the previous night, personal turmoil, etc. abrines has attempted hundreds and hundreds of threes in his career and is a 37-38% shooter. i think it's reasonable to expect that absent any compelling reason not to.

So there's no reason to be concerned about Russ's shooting, it's simple variance.

[ThunderBolt]

That wiggins contract would look good if he plays the Thunder every night.

Hes the exact kind of player i could see presti moving schroder for.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. That would be awful. Minnesota would clearly have to add here, in my opinion. I just can’t see this happening. If you want a player similar Wiggins on the wing, why not take a shot at getting the higher upside Oubre.


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I was being sarcastic. That being said, I might take Wiggins if they added Okogie.

[JustOneFix]

This one is completely on Russ. Just a mind boggling decision to double team Towns for absolutely no reason and leave Covington for wide open 3. Just a moronic decision.

Can you double team someone who is wide open?

Not sure what you mean. Towns was standing 25 feets from the basket, with, what it seems, no intention to shoot, with Adams standing in front of him. There was absolutely no need to all of a sudden trap him and leave your man wide open (and specially a guy like Covington who can knock down a shot like that). It was just a stupid decision.

[getrichordie]

Hes the exact kind of player i could see presti moving schroder for.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. That would be awful. Minnesota would clearly have to add here, in my opinion. I just can’t see this happening. If you want a player similar Wiggins on the wing, why not take a shot at getting the higher upside Oubre.


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I was being sarcastic. That being said, I might take Wiggins if they added Okogie.

Just a quick trade I came up with according to your scenario:

Wiggins
Rose
Okogie
FRP

for

Schroder
Roberson
Ferguson
Felton

—

Westbrook/Rose
Wiggins/Okogie/Diallo
George/Wiggins/Abrines
Grant/Patterson
Adams/Noel

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[slick_watts]

Do you believe that every shot a guy takes is just as likely to go in as his career averages say?

sure, all else being equal. we can't account for things like unreported injuries, rest the previous night, personal turmoil, etc. abrines has attempted hundreds and hundreds of threes in his career and is a 37-38% shooter. i think it's reasonable to expect that absent any compelling reason not to.

So there's no reason to be concerned about Russ's shooting, it's simple variance.

uh, ok. russ has had preseason surgery and injuries, and his shooting is now a two year trend. his 3pt% dropped 5% year to year since his mvp season and ft% 10%.

[Bergmaniac]

That wiggins contract would look good if he plays the Thunder every night.

Hes the exact kind of player i could see presti moving schroder for.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. That would be awful. Minnesota would clearly have to add here, in my opinion. I just can’t see this happening. If you want a player similar Wiggins on the wing, why not take a shot at getting the higher upside Oubre.

It won't happen, Wiggins makes way too much money to be a realistic option for a team with 2 max players and Adams, even if he was worth his contract the ownership would say no.

Not sure what you mean. Towns was standing 25 feets from the basket, with, what it seems, no intention to shoot, with Adams standing in front of him. There was absolutely no need to all of a sudden trap him and leave your man wide open (and specially a guy like Covington who can knock down a shot like that). It was just a stupid decision.

Are you talking about the play with 2:00 left in the fourth? I just rewatched it, Adams and Schroder both went after Tyus Jones on the pick and roll and left Towns open so Westbrook rotated to him, the right call.

[slick_watts]

This one is completely on Russ. Just a mind boggling decision to double team Towns for absolutely no reason and leave Covington for wide open 3. Just a moronic decision.

Can you double team someone who is wide open?

Not sure what you mean. Towns was standing 25 feets from the basket, with, what it seems, no intention to shoot, with Adams standing in front of him. There was absolutely no need to all of a sudden trap him and leave your man wide open (and specially a guy like Covington who can knock down a shot like that). It was just a stupid decision.

these guys will make every excuse in the universe for russell westbrook. even if you grant the help defense as necessary (i agree with you that it probably was not, at least not that aggressive), russ getting faked out of his shoes by covington was a blatant failure.

[getrichordie]

sure, all else being equal. we can't account for things like unreported injuries, rest the previous night, personal turmoil, etc. abrines has attempted hundreds and hundreds of threes in his career and is a 37-38% shooter. i think it's reasonable to expect that absent any compelling reason not to.

So there's no reason to be concerned about Russ's shooting, it's simple variance.

uh, ok. russ has had preseason surgery and injuries, and his shooting is now a two year trend. his 3pt% dropped 5% year to year since his mvp season and ft% 10%.

Have to agree with slick on this one.


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[getrichordie]

Spoiler:

Hes the exact kind of player i could see presti moving schroder for.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. That would be awful. Minnesota would clearly have to add here, in my opinion. I just can’t see this happening. If you want a player similar Wiggins on the wing, why not take a shot at getting the higher upside Oubre.

It won't happen, Wiggins makes way too much money to be a realistic option for a team with 2 max players and Adams, even if he was worth his contract the ownership would say no.

Not sure what you mean. Towns was standing 25 feets from the basket, with, what it seems, no intention to shoot, with Adams standing in front of him. There was absolutely no need to all of a sudden trap him and leave your man wide open (and specially a guy like Covington who can knock down a shot like that). It was just a stupid decision.

Are you talking about the play with 2:00 left in the fourth? I just rewatched it, Adams and Schroder both went after Tyus Jones on the pick and roll and left Towns open so Westbrook rotated to him, the right call.

Yeah, I don’t see Presti sacrificing future flexibility for Wiggins + Okogie or something. I could be wrong, but I just can’t see it.


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[ThunderBolt]

sure, all else being equal. we can't account for things like unreported injuries, rest the previous night, personal turmoil, etc. abrines has attempted hundreds and hundreds of threes in his career and is a 37-38% shooter. i think it's reasonable to expect that absent any compelling reason not to.

So there's no reason to be concerned about Russ's shooting, it's simple variance.

uh, ok. russ has had preseason surgery and injuries, and his shooting is now a two year trend. his 3pt% dropped 5% year to year since his mvp season and ft% 10%.

Well abrines had the craps for two weeks. With Ferguson leaving the game sick yesterday it probably means Alex will be a game time decision by tuesday.

[ThunderBolt]

Spoiler:

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. That would be awful. Minnesota would clearly have to add here, in my opinion. I just can’t see this happening. If you want a player similar Wiggins on the wing, why not take a shot at getting the higher upside Oubre.

It won't happen, Wiggins makes way too much money to be a realistic option for a team with 2 max players and Adams, even if he was worth his contract the ownership would say no.

Not sure what you mean. Towns was standing 25 feets from the basket, with, what it seems, no intention to shoot, with Adams standing in front of him. There was absolutely no need to all of a sudden trap him and leave your man wide open (and specially a guy like Covington who can knock down a shot like that). It was just a stupid decision.

Are you talking about the play with 2:00 left in the fourth? I just rewatched it, Adams and Schroder both went after Tyus Jones on the pick and roll and left Towns open so Westbrook rotated to him, the right call.

Yeah, I don’t see Presti sacrificing future flexibility for Wiggins + Okogie or something. I could be wrong, but I just can’t see it.


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Again, i was being facetious because it seems to be Presti's philosophy to have one trash scorer with a bad contract on the team.

[getrichordie]

Spoiler:

It won't happen, Wiggins makes way too much money to be a realistic option for a team with 2 max players and Adams, even if he was worth his contract the ownership would say no.


Are you talking about the play with 2:00 left in the fourth? I just rewatched it, Adams and Schroder both went after Tyus Jones on the pick and roll and left Towns open so Westbrook rotated to him, the right call.

Yeah, I don’t see Presti sacrificing future flexibility for Wiggins + Okogie or something. I could be wrong, but I just can’t see it.


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Again, i was being facetious because it seems to be Presti's philosophy to have one trash scorer with a bad contract on the team.

Every top tier team has a less-than-ideal contract to some degree it seems.


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[ThunderBolt]

Spoiler:

Yeah, I don’t see Presti sacrificing future flexibility for Wiggins + Okogie or something. I could be wrong, but I just can’t see it.


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Again, i was being facetious because it seems to be Presti's philosophy to have one trash scorer with a bad contract on the team.

Every top tier team has a less-than-ideal contract to some degree it seems.


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Presti seeks them out.

[getrichordie]

Again, i was being facetious because it seems to be Presti's philosophy to have one trash scorer with a bad contract on the team.

Every top tier team has a less-than-ideal contract to some degree it seems.


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Presti seeks them out.

I see it as Presti making the best out of bad situations time and time again.

As Lowe said recently (regarding Schroder contract), Presti has been using his “bad contract magic wand.”


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[spearsy23]

Can you double team someone who is wide open?

Not sure what you mean. Towns was standing 25 feets from the basket, with, what it seems, no intention to shoot, with Adams standing in front of him. There was absolutely no need to all of a sudden trap him and leave your man wide open (and specially a guy like Covington who can knock down a shot like that). It was just a stupid decision.

these guys will make every excuse in the universe for russell westbrook. even if you grant the help defense as necessary (i agree with you that it probably was not, at least not that aggressive), russ getting faked out of his shoes by covington was a blatant failure.

This isn't mythbusters, you don't get to reject reality. Fact is you want to blame everything in Westbrook, most likely for reaction, and you'll double down even when you're demonstrably wrong. Pretending you're the one being objective is silly.

[Mattv]

I think I’d rest Adams in this game and let Noel/Grant handle the 5 spot. Or at the very least, play Adams with limited minutes.

Given Minnesota’s stable of bigs, I think we could handle it.


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That's when I knew we were going to lose this.

Last time it was ''let rest our big 3'' and we ended up losing as well.

Those guys will never learn

Actually if you remember Correctly they won the game when I suggested to rest the big 3.Do yall just talk to talk or actually look at facts?Also blaming a lose on anything said on this board if the dumbest s*** I have ever heard.

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[Mattv]

Nobody should be too upset with this one. We played well, they played well, it took some lucky bounces and some iffy calls and we just came up a little short.

Yeah the game should have been over when Grant was mugged flagrant 1 at the least.

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[slick_watts]

Not sure what you mean. Towns was standing 25 feets from the basket, with, what it seems, no intention to shoot, with Adams standing in front of him. There was absolutely no need to all of a sudden trap him and leave your man wide open (and specially a guy like Covington who can knock down a shot like that). It was just a stupid decision.

these guys will make every excuse in the universe for russell westbrook. even if you grant the help defense as necessary (i agree with you that it probably was not, at least not that aggressive), russ getting faked out of his shoes by covington was a blatant failure.

This isn't mythbusters, you don't get to reject reality. Fact is you want to blame everything in Westbrook, most likely for reaction, and you'll double down even when you're demonstrably wrong. Pretending you're the one being objective is silly.

westbrook got beat on this play. he didn't lose this game on his own. but, this play contributed just as much to the loss as alex abrines missing his open three did. i wouldn't have posted the video if i hadn't analyzed it closely.

[JustOneFix]

It was the turning point of the game. You just don't leave such a good shooter like Covington wide open at the 3. So, instead of a tie game you are down 3 and have to play catch up for the rest of the game.