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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank
Quite simply there is no rush or reason to trade frank
Development takes years. For some players and positions it takes even longer. The pg position is the hardest. And frank is still only 20
He’s not expensive and we don’t have any motivation to move him
Just be calm people. Develop over time like real teams do
Development takes years. For some players and positions it takes even longer. The pg position is the hardest. And frank is still only 20
He’s not expensive and we don’t have any motivation to move him
Just be calm people. Develop over time like real teams do
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank
NoLayupRule wrote:Quite simply there is no rush or reason to trade frank
Development takes years. For some players and positions it takes even longer. The pg position is the hardest. And frank is still only 20
He’s not expensive and we don’t have any motivation to move him
Just be calm people. Develop over time like real teams do
I honestly cant think of but a few teams that actually took time and patience with a pg, didn't trade them and let them develop.
MCW immediately came to mind, won ROTY and got traded. Fultz came back in the season...logged virtually zero playoff minutes despite being healthy to play.
I saw people brought up nash but he didn't stick originally with his drafted team.
Then Billups.
Lakers didn't keep D-Lo, drafted another one in his place. I can see the Knicks doing the same with Ja, and it's precisely why they went out the last two years and added Burke and Mudiay.
You either got it or you don't, the pg position isn't one where teams wait and see.
Frank is 20, but Frank is on the clock.
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Jeff Van Gully wrote:robillionaire wrote:This may very well wind up being the worst draft pick in knicks history
please
Frederic Weiss is the worst draft pick in Knicks history.
Mike Sweetney wasn't a great one either.
Frank is nothing close to the worst pick ever no matter how he turns out
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Thugger HBC wrote:NoLayupRule wrote:Quite simply there is no rush or reason to trade frank
Development takes years. For some players and positions it takes even longer. The pg position is the hardest. And frank is still only 20
He’s not expensive and we don’t have any motivation to move him
Just be calm people. Develop over time like real teams do
I honestly cant think of but a few teams that actually took time and patience with a pg, didn't trade them and let them develop.
MCW immediately came to mind, won ROTY and got traded. Fultz came back in the season...logged virtually zero playoff minutes despite being healthy to play.
I saw people brought up nash but he didn't stick originally with his drafted team.
Then Billups.
Lakers didn't keep D-Lo, drafted another one in his place. I can see the Knicks doing the same with Ja, and it's precisely why they went out the last two years and added Burke and Mudiay.
You either got it or you don't, the pg position isn't one where teams wait and see.
Frank is 20, but Frank is on the clock.
I'd say we can be pretty certain Frank has to up his level during this season to make the FO consider him part of the long-term future.
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Clyde_Style wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:NoLayupRule wrote:Quite simply there is no rush or reason to trade frank
Development takes years. For some players and positions it takes even longer. The pg position is the hardest. And frank is still only 20
He’s not expensive and we don’t have any motivation to move him
Just be calm people. Develop over time like real teams do
I honestly cant think of but a few teams that actually took time and patience with a pg, didn't trade them and let them develop.
MCW immediately came to mind, won ROTY and got traded. Fultz came back in the season...logged virtually zero playoff minutes despite being healthy to play.
I saw people brought up nash but he didn't stick originally with his drafted team.
Then Billups.
Lakers didn't keep D-Lo, drafted another one in his place. I can see the Knicks doing the same with Ja, and it's precisely why they went out the last two years and added Burke and Mudiay.
You either got it or you don't, the pg position isn't one where teams wait and see.
Frank is 20, but Frank is on the clock.
I'd say we can be pretty certain Frank has to up his level during this season to make the FO consider him part of the long-term future.
You gotta remember, these guys didn't draft him. They know this, Frank knows this. Frank is in a really bad position. The team is trying to be supportive, but has no real vested interest there. Frank is a Phil holdover. I would say KP is as well, but KP has proven himself during his time here pretty much from day one, he just needs to recover.
Frank issues are in his head.
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Thugger HBC wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:I honestly cant think of but a few teams that actually took time and patience with a pg, didn't trade them and let them develop.
MCW immediately came to mind, won ROTY and got traded. Fultz came back in the season...logged virtually zero playoff minutes despite being healthy to play.
I saw people brought up nash but he didn't stick originally with his drafted team.
Then Billups.
Lakers didn't keep D-Lo, drafted another one in his place. I can see the Knicks doing the same with Ja, and it's precisely why they went out the last two years and added Burke and Mudiay.
You either got it or you don't, the pg position isn't one where teams wait and see.
Frank is 20, but Frank is on the clock.
I'd say we can be pretty certain Frank has to up his level during this season to make the FO consider him part of the long-term future.
You gotta remember, these guys didn't draft him. They know this, Frank knows this. Frank is in a really bad position. The team is trying to be supportive, but has no real vested interest there. Frank is a Phil holdover. I would say KP is as well, but KP has proven himself during his time here pretty much from day one, he just needs to recover.
Frank issues are in his head.
The question is whether any of the replacement PGs you get in this draft are really the solution....
and do you trust Perry & Mills to find that cerebral PG or are they just looking for someone to excite fans via YouTube highlights?

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Phish Tank wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:
I'd say we can be pretty certain Frank has to up his level during this season to make the FO consider him part of the long-term future.
You gotta remember, these guys didn't draft him. They know this, Frank knows this. Frank is in a really bad position. The team is trying to be supportive, but has no real vested interest there. Frank is a Phil holdover. I would say KP is as well, but KP has proven himself during his time here pretty much from day one, he just needs to recover.
Frank issues are in his head.
The question is whether any of the replacement PGs you get in this draft are really the solution....
and do you trust Perry & Mills to find that cerebral PG or are they just looking for someone to excite fans via YouTube highlights?
They don’t have to draft a point guard and honestly they shouldn’t. This FO went with Knox even though he wasn’t anyone’s favorite and look how he turned out. There isn’t a clear solution at point guard but Frank has never been even close to one. A point guard will likely come via free agency.
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Clyde_Style wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:robillionaire wrote:This may very well wind up being the worst draft pick in knicks history
please
Frederic Weiss is the worst draft pick in Knicks history.
Mike Sweetney wasn't a great one either.
Frank is nothing close to the worst pick ever no matter how he turns out
Yeah, that sentence isn't even opinion, it's just straight wrong. It's like saying the sun is cold; it's not opinion, it's just false.
Just in the last 10 years, frank has already had a better career than:
Jaramaz, early antentkonmpoodidjfmgbd, papanakdilpou, Andy rautins.
RIP, magnumt '19
PG: M Smart/E Bledsoe/I Smith
SG: D Russell/C LeVert/L Stephenson
SF: H Barnes/T Horton Tucker/
PF: T Harris/C Boucher/B Griffin/
C: J Valanciunas/J McGee/
PG: M Smart/E Bledsoe/I Smith
SG: D Russell/C LeVert/L Stephenson
SF: H Barnes/T Horton Tucker/
PF: T Harris/C Boucher/B Griffin/
C: J Valanciunas/J McGee/
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Phish Tank wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:
I'd say we can be pretty certain Frank has to up his level during this season to make the FO consider him part of the long-term future.
You gotta remember, these guys didn't draft him. They know this, Frank knows this. Frank is in a really bad position. The team is trying to be supportive, but has no real vested interest there. Frank is a Phil holdover. I would say KP is as well, but KP has proven himself during his time here pretty much from day one, he just needs to recover.
Frank issues are in his head.
The question is whether any of the replacement PGs you get in this draft are really the solution....
and do you trust Perry & Mills to find that cerebral PG or are they just looking for someone to excite fans via YouTube highlights?
Only time will tell, but sports is entertainment. I think you can find a good pg and one that excites in the same package.
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Thugger HBC wrote:Phish Tank wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:You gotta remember, these guys didn't draft him. They know this, Frank knows this. Frank is in a really bad position. The team is trying to be supportive, but has no real vested interest there. Frank is a Phil holdover. I would say KP is as well, but KP has proven himself during his time here pretty much from day one, he just needs to recover.
Frank issues are in his head.
The question is whether any of the replacement PGs you get in this draft are really the solution....
and do you trust Perry & Mills to find that cerebral PG or are they just looking for someone to excite fans via YouTube highlights?
Only time will tell, but sports is entertainment. I think you can find a good pg and one that excites in the same package.
then I guess the Spurs are a dying breed

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Phish Tank wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:Phish Tank wrote:
The question is whether any of the replacement PGs you get in this draft are really the solution....
and do you trust Perry & Mills to find that cerebral PG or are they just looking for someone to excite fans via YouTube highlights?
Only time will tell, but sports is entertainment. I think you can find a good pg and one that excites in the same package.
then I guess the Spurs are a dying breed
Tony Parker was far from boring. playing solid basketball doesn't mean you cant be exciting to watch.
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Thugger HBC wrote:Phish Tank wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:Only time will tell, but sports is entertainment. I think you can find a good pg and one that excites in the same package.
then I guess the Spurs are a dying breed
Tony Parker was far from boring. playing solid basketball doesn't mean you cant be exciting to watch.
Tony Parker was very exciting to me. I loved his craftiness which gave me more oh snap did you see that moments than watching a sledgehammer like D.Rose
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br7knicks wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:
please
Frederic Weiss is the worst draft pick in Knicks history.
Mike Sweetney wasn't a great one either.
Frank is nothing close to the worst pick ever no matter how he turns out
Yeah, that sentence isn't even opinion, it's just straight wrong. It's like saying the sun is cold; it's not opinion, it's just false.
Just in the last 10 years, frank has already had a better career than:
Jaramaz, early antentkonmpoodidjfmgbd, papanakdilpou, Andy rautins.
My pet spelling bee just dropped dead from exhaustion reading that
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there are only a couple teams who did stick with their rookies PG studs - its trueThugger HBC wrote:NoLayupRule wrote:Quite simply there is no rush or reason to trade frank
Development takes years. For some players and positions it takes even longer. The pg position is the hardest. And frank is still only 20
He’s not expensive and we don’t have any motivation to move him
Just be calm people. Develop over time like real teams do
I honestly cant think of but a few teams that actually took time and patience with a pg, didn't trade them and let them develop.
MCW immediately came to mind, won ROTY and got traded. Fultz came back in the season...logged virtually zero playoff minutes despite being healthy to play.
I saw people brought up nash but he didn't stick originally with his drafted team.
Then Billups.
Lakers didn't keep D-Lo, drafted another one in his place. I can see the Knicks doing the same with Ja, and it's precisely why they went out the last two years and added Burke and Mudiay.
You either got it or you don't, the pg position isn't one where teams wait and see.
Frank is 20, but Frank is on the clock.
SA and Den come to mind
But as far as the clock goes for Frank there are only two clocks that matter for him
1} his rookie contract. he has to show value to be resigned or extended
2} if we become a playoff team next year. He has to prove his worth on the team or be moved for someone who can
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Phish Tank wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:Phish Tank wrote:
The question is whether any of the replacement PGs you get in this draft are really the solution....
and do you trust Perry & Mills to find that cerebral PG or are they just looking for someone to excite fans via YouTube highlights?
Only time will tell, but sports is entertainment. I think you can find a good pg and one that excites in the same package.
then I guess the Spurs are a dying breed
Id love a boring PG like Dejounte Murray on our team
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Thugger HBC wrote:NoLayupRule wrote:Quite simply there is no rush or reason to trade frank
Development takes years. For some players and positions it takes even longer. The pg position is the hardest. And frank is still only 20
He’s not expensive and we don’t have any motivation to move him
Just be calm people. Develop over time like real teams do
I honestly cant think of but a few teams that actually took time and patience with a pg, didn't trade them and let them develop.
MCW immediately came to mind, won ROTY and got traded. Fultz came back in the season...logged virtually zero playoff minutes despite being healthy to play.
I saw people brought up nash but he didn't stick originally with his drafted team.
Then Billups.
Lakers didn't keep D-Lo, drafted another one in his place. I can see the Knicks doing the same with Ja, and it's precisely why they went out the last two years and added Burke and Mudiay.
You either got it or you don't, the pg position isn't one where teams wait and see.
Frank is 20, but Frank is on the clock.
but frank isn't a pg, he's a guy that's capable of running it but he's not a pg.
fizdale sorta had it right in making him the sf but what he did wrong was not having frank run plays as the sf.
nicolas batum/joe ingles should be the blue print for frank.
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Thugger HBC wrote:Phish Tank wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:Only time will tell, but sports is entertainment. I think you can find a good pg and one that excites in the same package.
then I guess the Spurs are a dying breed
Tony Parker was far from boring. playing solid basketball doesn't mean you cant be exciting to watch.
Sure but relative to the stephon marburys of the world, tony parker was boring.
People would have rather salivated over this than anything Parker did in his prime:

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Weiss over Artest is much worse than Frank over DMitch because the only thing Weiss ever accomplished was being a prop for a Vince Carter dunk and being the answer to two different trivia questions. Who did the Knicks draft instead of Artest and who's the guy Carter jumped over in the Olympics.
I've come to the conclusion that Frank just won't ever have the type of aggressiveness that fan's crave regardless of how 'confident' he is.
There will be three players drafted after him from that year which will have rookie scoring highs likely more than Frank will ever have as a career high..... magic number for Frank to hit is 27 points.... will he ever score that much in one game in his career?
I've come to the conclusion that Frank just won't ever have the type of aggressiveness that fan's crave regardless of how 'confident' he is.
There will be three players drafted after him from that year which will have rookie scoring highs likely more than Frank will ever have as a career high..... magic number for Frank to hit is 27 points.... will he ever score that much in one game in his career?
If you'd rather see your team fail so you can be right
...you are a fan of your opinion not the team.
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Knowledge is just information stuffed into a mental bag
Wisdom is knowing what to pull out of the bag to do the job
...you are a fan of your opinion not the team.
?Knowledge is just information stuffed into a mental bag
Wisdom is knowing what to pull out of the bag to do the job
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Those are second round guys. Hisncomp is Weiss at 15, Sweetney at 8 and Kenny Walker at 5 if I recall.br7knicks wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:
please
Frederic Weiss is the worst draft pick in Knicks history.
Mike Sweetney wasn't a great one either.
Frank is nothing close to the worst pick ever no matter how he turns out
Yeah, that sentence isn't even opinion, it's just straight wrong. It's like saying the sun is cold; it's not opinion, it's just false.
Just in the last 10 years, frank has already had a better career than:
Jaramaz, early antentkonmpoodidjfmgbd, papanakdilpou, Andy rautins.
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PorzinGAWD wrote:Billups would be a great mentor for Frank
**** billups bitch ass









