Temetrius "Ja" Morant

[Stillwater]

From the last 3 Drafts including this one, in terms of my pre-drafts thoughts re:Guards (PG/CGs)

Markelle Fultz
Trae Young





I am still really all in on Trae

I don't get at all stubborn people's facination with Young as a NBA player. His court vision is really good so he at least can out think the opponent but his mechanics combined with his small size make it impossible for him to achieve all star levels.

pretty odd coming from a Cavs fan since Young has lit your team up with all star quality performances in all 3 matchups. Destroyed Sexton so bad in the first two they wouldn't even let him guard Trae in matchup #3.

Young did not "light it up" get your facts straight. his numbers against CLE have been better than his usual but I wouldn't consider that an accomplishment given how bad they are.
Sexton is a project no doubt but his upside is at least attainable.

[shakes0]

I don't get at all stubborn people's facination with Young as a NBA player. His court vision is really good so he at least can out think the opponent but his mechanics combined with his small size make it impossible for him to achieve all star levels.

pretty odd coming from a Cavs fan since Young has lit your team up with all star quality performances in all 3 matchups. Destroyed Sexton so bad in the first two they wouldn't even let him guard Trae in matchup #3.

Young did not "light it up" get your facts straight. his numbers against CLE have been better than his usual but I wouldn't consider that an accomplishment given how bad they are.
Sexton is a project no doubt but his upside is at least attainable.

Get my facts straight? Here ya go, straight facts:

10/21 @ CLE = 35 pts/ 11 assists on 56.5% shooting
10/30 @ CLE = 24 pts/4 assists on 69% shooting
12/29 vs CLE = 21 pts/9 assists on 50% shooting


That's the very definition of lighting a team up. Those are straight up all star numbers. So stop lying, it's not a good look for you.


Get my facts straight??? LOL!

[Stillwater]

pretty odd coming from a Cavs fan since Young has lit your team up with all star quality performances in all 3 matchups. Destroyed Sexton so bad in the first two they wouldn't even let him guard Trae in matchup #3.

Young did not "light it up" get your facts straight. his numbers against CLE have been better than his usual but I wouldn't consider that an accomplishment given how bad they are.
Sexton is a project no doubt but his upside is at least attainable.

Get my facts straight? Here ya go, straight facts:

10/21 @ CLE = 35 pts/ 11 assists on 56.5% shooting
10/30 @ CLE = 24 pts/4 assists on 69% shooting
12/29 vs CLE = 21 pts/9 assists on 50% shooting


That's the very definition of lighting a team up. Those are straight up all star numbers. So stop lying, it's not a good look for you.


Get my facts straight??? LOL!

In the first meeting he was chucking like a madman going 6-14 from deep and Sexton layed an egg in that one being mixed up with Lues **** switching schemes.
In the 2nd meeting Sexton owned him where Young only jacked up 4 open 3's when Sexton wasn't on him.
In the last meeting Burks was assigned to Young as he is a better defender at this point than Sexton and Young shot his average around 33% from 3.
The 2 he made were open looks.
The Cavs are terrible this season, so if you want to pump your chest with what you see from Young against them and think that is lighting it up when he misses almost every contested 3 he takes I don't know what to say. His defense is horrendous and if his numbers are only what you consider good against bad teams what does that tell you.

[shakes0]

Young did not "light it up" get your facts straight. his numbers against CLE have been better than his usual but I wouldn't consider that an accomplishment given how bad they are.
Sexton is a project no doubt but his upside is at least attainable.

Get my facts straight? Here ya go, straight facts:

10/21 @ CLE = 35 pts/ 11 assists on 56.5% shooting
10/30 @ CLE = 24 pts/4 assists on 69% shooting
12/29 vs CLE = 21 pts/9 assists on 50% shooting


That's the very definition of lighting a team up. Those are straight up all star numbers. So stop lying, it's not a good look for you.


Get my facts straight??? LOL!

In the first meeting he was chucking like a madman going 6-14 from deep and Sexton layed an egg in that one being mixed up with Lues **** switching schemes.
In the 2nd meeting Sexton owned him where Young only jacked up 4 open 3's when Sexton wasn't on him.
In the last meeting Burks was assigned to Young as he is a better defender at this point than Sexton and Young shot his average around 33% from 3.
The 2 he made were open looks.
The Cavs are terrible this season, so if you want to pump your chest with what you see from Young against them and think that is lighting it up when he misses almost every contested 3 he takes I don't know what to say. His defense is horrendous and if his numbers are only what you consider good against bad teams what does that tell you.

Chucking like a madman in the first game? He shot 56% in that game en route to 35 points along with 11 assists. That's not "chucking like a madman", that's called shooting very efficiently at a high volume and having a superstar quality game. What did Sexton do in that same game? Oh yea, 2/11 from the field for 4 points to go along with 2 assists.


Sexton owned him in the 2nd meeting???? By going 4/10 from the field for 17 points and 3 whopping assists? That's how you own a guy who in turn goes for 24 points on 69% shooting along with 4 helpers? I don't think you understand the definition of the word owned.


In the final meeting the Cavs finally realized that Sexton is such an awful defender he has no business being on Trae and they put Burks and Hood on him all game and Trae still got the better of Sexton with 21 and 9 on 50% shooting. What did Sexton do that game? 18 pts on more horrible shooting, 6/15, but at least this time he had 6 assists.


Cavs are terrible this season? What are the Hawks? Don't even try that excuse, both teams suck.


Face it, you're full of crap and it's basically an objective fact that Trae has DOMINATED the Cavs this year. You keep keying on 3pt% as if that is some end all be all, but you keep ignoring the obviously more important overall field goal %. Why is that? Could it be because Trae is 30/52 from the field against your team, shooting 58%. And throw in that he is averaging 8 assists against your team as well and you have a guy completely dominating your team and looking like an all NBA performer in the process.


Go ahead, keep trying to spin your BS, you're looking like a ridiculous homer fool on this one.

[Stillwater]

Get my facts straight? Here ya go, straight facts:

10/21 @ CLE = 35 pts/ 11 assists on 56.5% shooting
10/30 @ CLE = 24 pts/4 assists on 69% shooting
12/29 vs CLE = 21 pts/9 assists on 50% shooting


That's the very definition of lighting a team up. Those are straight up all star numbers. So stop lying, it's not a good look for you.


Get my facts straight??? LOL!

In the first meeting he was chucking like a madman going 6-14 from deep and Sexton layed an egg in that one being mixed up with Lues **** switching schemes.
In the 2nd meeting Sexton owned him where Young only jacked up 4 open 3's when Sexton wasn't on him.
In the last meeting Burks was assigned to Young as he is a better defender at this point than Sexton and Young shot his average around 33% from 3.
The 2 he made were open looks.
The Cavs are terrible this season, so if you want to pump your chest with what you see from Young against them and think that is lighting it up when he misses almost every contested 3 he takes I don't know what to say. His defense is horrendous and if his numbers are only what you consider good against bad teams what does that tell you.

Chucking like a madman in the first game? He shot 56% in that game en route to 35 points along with 11 assists. That's not "chucking like a madman", that's called shooting very efficiently at a high volume and having a superstar quality game. What did Sexton do in that same game? Oh yea, 2/11 from the field for 4 points to go along with 2 assists.


Sexton owned him in the 2nd meeting???? By going 4/10 from the field for 17 points and 3 whopping assists? That's how you own a guy who in turn goes for 24 points on 69% shooting along with 4 helpers? I don't think you understand the definition of the word owned.


In the final meeting the Cavs finally realized that Sexton is such an awful defender he has no business being on Trae and they put Burks and Hood on him all game and Trae still got the better of Sexton with 21 and 9 on 50% shooting. What did Sexton do that game? 18 pts on more horrible shooting, 6/15, but at least this time he had 6 assists.


Cavs are terrible this season? What are the Hawks? Don't even try that excuse, both teams suck.


Face it, you're full of crap and it's basically an objective fact that Trae has DOMINATED the Cavs this year. You keep keying on 3pt% as if that is some end all be all, but you keep ignoring the obviously more important overall field goal %. Why is that? Could it be because Trae is 30/52 from the field against your team, shooting 58%. And throw in that he is averaging 8 assists against your team as well and you have a guy completely dominating your team and looking like an all NBA performer in the process.


Go ahead, keep trying to spin your BS, you're looking like a ridiculous homer fool on this one.

Sheesh take it personal why don't you. Young is a inefficient chucker on most nights with the offset of being an efficient distributor and your attempt to discredit that opinion by claims of efficiency against CLE piss poor defense as a team comparing him to Sexton is laughable. Sexton is a superior defender by comparison but is a project and the Cavs knew that and his numbers are evidence of that fact. Sexton did impact Young significantly in game 2 . Young was overrated by atl to the point of passing on the generational talent of Luka Doncic who Trae will never be as good as no matter how many excuses you come up with.
Young's assist numbers are also padded by having better teammates than Sexton does etc.
Come talk to me in 3 years when Sexton is dominating the East and Young is still shooting less than 30% from 3 as a back up.

[shakes0]

In the first meeting he was chucking like a madman going 6-14 from deep and Sexton layed an egg in that one being mixed up with Lues **** switching schemes.
In the 2nd meeting Sexton owned him where Young only jacked up 4 open 3's when Sexton wasn't on him.
In the last meeting Burks was assigned to Young as he is a better defender at this point than Sexton and Young shot his average around 33% from 3.
The 2 he made were open looks.
The Cavs are terrible this season, so if you want to pump your chest with what you see from Young against them and think that is lighting it up when he misses almost every contested 3 he takes I don't know what to say. His defense is horrendous and if his numbers are only what you consider good against bad teams what does that tell you.

Chucking like a madman in the first game? He shot 56% in that game en route to 35 points along with 11 assists. That's not "chucking like a madman", that's called shooting very efficiently at a high volume and having a superstar quality game. What did Sexton do in that same game? Oh yea, 2/11 from the field for 4 points to go along with 2 assists.


Sexton owned him in the 2nd meeting???? By going 4/10 from the field for 17 points and 3 whopping assists? That's how you own a guy who in turn goes for 24 points on 69% shooting along with 4 helpers? I don't think you understand the definition of the word owned.


In the final meeting the Cavs finally realized that Sexton is such an awful defender he has no business being on Trae and they put Burks and Hood on him all game and Trae still got the better of Sexton with 21 and 9 on 50% shooting. What did Sexton do that game? 18 pts on more horrible shooting, 6/15, but at least this time he had 6 assists.


Cavs are terrible this season? What are the Hawks? Don't even try that excuse, both teams suck.


Face it, you're full of crap and it's basically an objective fact that Trae has DOMINATED the Cavs this year. You keep keying on 3pt% as if that is some end all be all, but you keep ignoring the obviously more important overall field goal %. Why is that? Could it be because Trae is 30/52 from the field against your team, shooting 58%. And throw in that he is averaging 8 assists against your team as well and you have a guy completely dominating your team and looking like an all NBA performer in the process.


Go ahead, keep trying to spin your BS, you're looking like a ridiculous homer fool on this one.

Sheesh take it personal why don't you. Young is a inefficient chucker on most nights with the offset of being an efficient distributor and your attempt to discredit that opinion by claims of efficiency against CLE piss poor defense as a team comparing him to Sexton is laughable. Sexton is a superior defender by comparison but is a project and the Cavs knew that and his numbers are evidence of that fact. Sexton did impact Young significantly in game 2 . Young was overrated by atl to the point of passing on the generational talent of Luka Doncic who Trae will never be as good as no matter how many excuses you come up with.
Young's assist numbers are also padded by having better teammates than Sexton does etc.
Come talk to me in 3 years when Sexton is dominating the East and Young is still shooting less than 30% from 3 as a back up.

It's ok to just admit you were wrong. No need to try and move the goalposts like that. The argument was simple, I pointed out that Trae has dominated teh Cavs in all meetings this year, you said that was wrong and I proved that I was correct. Now you are trying to spin some more BS such as being the only person in the world who would actually claim that Trae's assists numbers are padded because he plays alongside the AMAZING ATLANTA HAWKS LOL.

Face it, you got owned in this argument just as much as Trae has owned the Cavs on the court.

[Stillwater]

Chucking like a madman in the first game? He shot 56% in that game en route to 35 points along with 11 assists. That's not "chucking like a madman", that's called shooting very efficiently at a high volume and having a superstar quality game. What did Sexton do in that same game? Oh yea, 2/11 from the field for 4 points to go along with 2 assists.


Sexton owned him in the 2nd meeting???? By going 4/10 from the field for 17 points and 3 whopping assists? That's how you own a guy who in turn goes for 24 points on 69% shooting along with 4 helpers? I don't think you understand the definition of the word owned.


In the final meeting the Cavs finally realized that Sexton is such an awful defender he has no business being on Trae and they put Burks and Hood on him all game and Trae still got the better of Sexton with 21 and 9 on 50% shooting. What did Sexton do that game? 18 pts on more horrible shooting, 6/15, but at least this time he had 6 assists.


Cavs are terrible this season? What are the Hawks? Don't even try that excuse, both teams suck.


Face it, you're full of crap and it's basically an objective fact that Trae has DOMINATED the Cavs this year. You keep keying on 3pt% as if that is some end all be all, but you keep ignoring the obviously more important overall field goal %. Why is that? Could it be because Trae is 30/52 from the field against your team, shooting 58%. And throw in that he is averaging 8 assists against your team as well and you have a guy completely dominating your team and looking like an all NBA performer in the process.


Go ahead, keep trying to spin your BS, you're looking like a ridiculous homer fool on this one.

Sheesh take it personal why don't you. Young is a inefficient chucker on most nights with the offset of being an efficient distributor and your attempt to discredit that opinion by claims of efficiency against CLE piss poor defense as a team comparing him to Sexton is laughable. Sexton is a superior defender by comparison but is a project and the Cavs knew that and his numbers are evidence of that fact. Sexton did impact Young significantly in game 2 . Young was overrated by atl to the point of passing on the generational talent of Luka Doncic who Trae will never be as good as no matter how many excuses you come up with.
Young's assist numbers are also padded by having better teammates than Sexton does etc.
Come talk to me in 3 years when Sexton is dominating the East and Young is still shooting less than 30% from 3 as a back up.

It's ok to just admit you were wrong. No need to try and move the goalposts like that. The argument was simple, I pointed out that Trae has dominated teh Cavs in all meetings this year, you said that was wrong and I proved that I was correct. Now you are trying to spin some more BS such as being the only person in the world who would actually claim that Trae's assists numbers are padded because he plays alongside the AMAZING ATLANTA HAWKS LOL.

Face it, you got owned in this argument just as much as Trae has owned the Cavs on the court.

You have made zero sense throwing up those stats as proof of his game being dominant when it isn't.
You don't own jack other than those stats as an argument here. Young has so little impact defensively that anything he does offensively is taken away.
His numbers were not at all that impressive other than game 1 which was due to chucking high usage etc.
I think Young has no upside he is what he is, and although he puts up better numbers as a distributor than Sexton, he will be surpassed by Sexton as a complete player long term.
And the bottom line is Trae numbers were not that impressive to me against CLE even if you think they were because he is much worse most of the time.
Own that

[shakes0]

Sheesh take it personal why don't you. Young is a inefficient chucker on most nights with the offset of being an efficient distributor and your attempt to discredit that opinion by claims of efficiency against CLE piss poor defense as a team comparing him to Sexton is laughable. Sexton is a superior defender by comparison but is a project and the Cavs knew that and his numbers are evidence of that fact. Sexton did impact Young significantly in game 2 . Young was overrated by atl to the point of passing on the generational talent of Luka Doncic who Trae will never be as good as no matter how many excuses you come up with.
Young's assist numbers are also padded by having better teammates than Sexton does etc.
Come talk to me in 3 years when Sexton is dominating the East and Young is still shooting less than 30% from 3 as a back up.

It's ok to just admit you were wrong. No need to try and move the goalposts like that. The argument was simple, I pointed out that Trae has dominated teh Cavs in all meetings this year, you said that was wrong and I proved that I was correct. Now you are trying to spin some more BS such as being the only person in the world who would actually claim that Trae's assists numbers are padded because he plays alongside the AMAZING ATLANTA HAWKS LOL.

Face it, you got owned in this argument just as much as Trae has owned the Cavs on the court.

You have made zero sense throwing up those stats as proof of his game being dominant when it isn't.
You don't own jack other than those stats as an argument here. Young has so little impact defensively that anything he does offensively is taken away.
His numbers were not at all that impressive other than game 1 which was due to chucking high usage etc.
I think Young has no upside he is what he is, and although he puts up better numbers as a distributor than Sexton, he will be surpassed by Sexton as a complete player long term.
And the bottom line is Trae numbers were not that impressive to me against CLE even if you think they were because he is much worse most of the time.
Own that

now you're just looking like a clown, trying to argue against objective facts.


Doubling down on your Trae Young hate even when he's dominated your team at every turn. Saying a rookie 20 year old PG has no upside? LOL, who would ever take you seriously when you spout nonsense like that?

And don't talk about defensive impact when the guy you are touting is just as **** on defense, in fact, so **** he wasn't allowed to guard Trae in the 3rd meeting cause he got torched in the previous 2. Trae Young has been able to walk around Sexton and get to the rim AT WILL in every matchup.

[Stillwater]

now you're just looking like a clown, trying to argue against objective facts.


Doubling down on your Trae Young hate even when he's dominated your team at every turn. Saying a rookie 20 year old PG has no upside? LOL, who would ever take you seriously when you spout nonsense like that?

And don't talk about defensive impact when the guy you are touting is just as **** on defense, in fact, so **** he wasn't allowed to guard Trae in the 3rd meeting cause he got torched in the previous 2. Trae Young has been able to walk around Sexton and get to the rim AT WILL in every matchup.[/quote]
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I'm done here. back to Ja talk Pal.
There is nothing your'e sputtering that changes the facts for me.
If all you are concerned about is winning arguments you will be the one twisting facts and attempting to discredit others opinions.
The only thing you have owned here is a delusional opinion based on some average at best stats by a rookie against a tanking team.
go home

[Ruzious]

Ok guys, I think both of you have dug in on your views and won't change the other's mind, so let's move on. Thanks.

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[clyde21]

Morant is basically a couple of boards a game away from averaging a triple-double in college. Pretty crazy.

[MotownMadness]

He’s fast as hell driving to the rim with enough skill to make something happen

[Duke4life831]

I just cant get to the point where I want to see Ja play against some of the worst teams in college basketball. He is skinny and athletic and way too good to playing against mid majors all year long. Cant wait till March when he finally should be able to get to play against a legit team with legit opposition.

[Mulhollanddrive]

How's he going to go in the paint vs NBA size?

He is by far the smallest on court already in most of his college games.

[RipCity71252]

Ja makes incredibly difficult things look really easy. A lot has to be said for that.

And yes, he's skinny and a questionable shooter and decision maker at times, but he's one of the very few guys in this class that really makes plays that jump off the screen imo.

Middle/floater game is going to be big for him though. Really doesn't have much of one right now.

[clyde21]

How's he going to go in the paint vs NBA size?

He is by far the smallest on court already in most of his college games.

smallest by weight but the frame is okay and has long arms, and is a legit 6'3"

he also has a tight handle, a lot of moves, elite change of direction ability and gets to his spots quickly. he'll have no issues getting to the basket in the NBA.

he might be the best player I've seen at the behind the back dribble since Kyrie and Steph.

[No-Man]

Ben Rubin made the Jason Williams comp and I can see that, I think he could be better than him obv, but I rarely would want a PG that can't play off-ball, just not conducive to winning big time

Morant has some tremendous qualities and is super fun to watch, I think Detroit would be the best situation for him in his "projected" range by the trustworthy Mocks

He def doesn't a have a tight handle though

[doordoor123]

Ben Rubin made the Jason Williams comp and I can see that, I think he could be better than him obv, but I rarely would want a PG that can't play off-ball, just not conducive to winning big time

Morant has some tremendous qualities and is super fun to watch, I think Detroit would be the best situation for him in his "projected" range by the trustworthy Mocks

He def doesn't a have a tight handle though

He’s going to turn the ball over a lot in the NBA, he’s not going to be a good defender and he needs the ball in his hands to be effective. He also just needs to learn to play the game the right way.

I think yeah, he has some good qualities. He has a lot of shake and bounce. But I don’t think his first step is NBA-level and with that high bounce he’s going to mess up a lot. He’s a guy you don’t start when he comes to the NBA, you let him get better behind other good players and let them teach him how to play. If he didn’t have his size and athletic ability we wouldn’t even be talking about him as a first rounder.