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2018/2019 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.)

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Who's Hotter?

Cap
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10%
Mags
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10%
KoC
3
7%
DK
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2%
KT/FOE <--His new name sucks!
15
36%
Thugger
3
7%
GONYK
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7%
Remi
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10%
Moocow
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10%
NLR
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Total votes: 42

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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1741 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:17 am

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sort of like finding out that hot Thai chick you wanted so badly is really a guy

You might need a therapist with that one big homie...


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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1742 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:18 am

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blueNorange wrote:it's less about trading frank and more about trading a loser of a player that the knicks always seem to end up with on their roster.


Steve Francis was enough

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knicks always end up with other teams garbage.


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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1743 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:47 am

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Some cats just can't handle the Rebuild Life

tell me about it...I would have never stretched Noah- just waived him...And would just wait it out- sign KP- dump hardaway,
Lee and go after the greek freak...


Yeah, and it should be said Perry is still cleaning up past mistakes including those of Mills. Much as I have turned on Fiz (who probably will still be a lousy play calling coach even with a strong team), much of this season is transitioning from the past into the present. Now that the trades for the crappy vets happen (or don't), it should be greenlit to play the youngest ones the rest of this season. IOW, this season was going to be messy no matter what. It really is a process year if there ever was one for the Knicks. Some guys just want instant pudding though; KD jumping out of their birthday cakes and somehow that will = voila! a ring appears! Nah


Would you give up Frank just to get rid of Tim for an expiring contract and a second round pick?
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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1744 » by cgmw » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:09 am

If a deal nets $40-50mm in cap space plus a decent shot at pick 1-3, then the only real downside to “downgrading” Frank to DSJ is a team “culture” thing where the same-old same-old Knicks pull a 2010 and end up with Amare (Kemba) not LeBron (Durant).
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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1745 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:15 am

We already have 21 pages on a fictitious trade while the Mavs board has only 4 pages on a possible Dennis Smith trade with the Magic but no discussion about a potential trade with the Knicks.

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1791070
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Re: 2018/2019 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#1746 » by blanko » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:22 am

KnicksGod wrote:KP Maxed Out and sent to Boston with Dotson for Tatum, Rozier and Hayward.

Rozier-Frank
Lottery 2
Tatum
Knox
Durant (yep at center)

Or Tatum is sort of a 2-3.

Rozier-Frank
Tatum
Knox
Durant
Mitch

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If we trade kp we want the ad package.
Min two first round draft picks
Tatum
Brown
Hayward

They also take timmy

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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1747 » by Adelheid » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:24 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:We already have 21 pages on a fictitious trade while the Mavs board has only 4 pages on a possible Dennis Smith trade with the Magic but no discussion about a potential trade with the Knicks.

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1791070


Well, we do get easily stirred up by random rumors and BS. Atleast alot of us here does.
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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1748 » by J9Starks3 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:45 am

cuyankees wrote:
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ChaosHamster wrote:yeah, DSJ is garbage.

Hes a young PG, so there is still time. They usually take more time to develop.

But can we just swap THJ and Wes?


Timmy, Mud for Wes works straight up....they can then use DSJ to go to a 3rd team to add another piece.....

Where does that work?

THJ + Mud = 24.5mn and that's well over 125% of Wes


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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1749 » by matchman » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:45 am

This 21 pages shows our care of lil Frank.
Are you fans of the team or the player?
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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1750 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:47 am

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god shammgod wrote:mitch now ? i done told you we needed to ban everyone. why have you forsaken your duty mpharris ? why!?!?


i guess thats the cut off for peoples...eye on the cap space prize stops at mitch :lol:


Sure? Why not?

Let's follow the logic: Frank sucks on offense, is all potential, if he has any there, plays defense, but kind of "so what?" and has been injury prone, at least to a degree.

Hmm
Sounds a like like Mitch, but he's taller.

Why not?
:D

Pretty sure I'm on the record somewhere. I'd probably do this trade - if it's THJr. Not if it's CLee.

That proposed trade with Mudiay? Surely. I'd assume that's some Twitterboy fantasy though.
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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1751 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:00 am

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BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:Meh. I like Frank but this ain’t a tipping point deal IMO. There are a few levels that this makes sense on.

it's less about trading frank and more about trading a loser of a player that the knicks always seem to end up with on their roster.


Steve Francis was enough


Good comp. The DSJr prototype!

Also, good comp, as if Frank is traded, a bunch of guys here will be hitting the crack pipe, me included.
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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1752 » by FemaleDogPlease » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:05 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:We already have 21 pages on a fictitious trade while the Mavs board has only 4 pages on a possible Dennis Smith trade with the Magic but no discussion about a potential trade with the Knicks.

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1791070


There are other Mavs forums with more discussion going on.

Mavs fan dont want to trade DSJ. The argument I see the most is DSJ is actually playing and producing while Frank can't produce on a 10 win team.
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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1753 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:12 pm

FemaleDogPlease wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:We already have 21 pages on a fictitious trade while the Mavs board has only 4 pages on a possible Dennis Smith trade with the Magic but no discussion about a potential trade with the Knicks.

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1791070


There are other Mavs forums with more discussion going on.

Mavs fan dont want to trade DSJ. The argument I see the most is DSJ is actually playing and producing while Frank can't produce on a 10 win team.


Well, they are getting the superior THJr in the trade, so that should even it out
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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1754 » by F N 11 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:14 pm

More guards that don’t play defense and don’t pass. Never learn..
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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1755 » by ny-n-md » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:42 pm

I was all upset when we didn’t draft Dennis Smith Jr. on draft night. It really pissed me off that Phil Jackson was allowed to make the pick and then was promptly fired after the draft. I like Frank but the way Fiz lets Mudiay play so much I believe Frank doesn’t fit his style of play.

I think DSJ is a better version of Mudiay with more upside. Why not? :dontknow:
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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1756 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:53 pm

DSJ has his issues, but he can still be a really good player. The talent is there.

Compared to Frank? They are totally different players so it’s hard to compare. I wouldn’t be surprised if either one ends up better in the end. Frank is further away at this point. DSJ still has upside though.

The Wes for Timmy part? That is a landslide and the tipping point.
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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1757 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:00 pm

Is there anyway the Knicks could trade Frank, maybe with CLee, and keep Mudiay and THJr?

I mean, those are "Fiz" kind of players, and DSJr would give him another.

Throw in Mitch too. And Dotson.

It's time to go all in on players that fit with the coach.

Clearing out Dot would open up some more playing time for Burke and Mario.
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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1758 » by mgiangra » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:08 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Is there anyway the Knicks could trade Frank, maybe with CLee, and keep Mudiay and THJr?

I mean, those are "Fiz" kind of players, and DSJr would give him another.

Throw in Mitch too. And Dotson.

It's time to go all in on players that fit with the coach.

Clearing out Dot would open up some more playing time for Burke and Mario.


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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1759 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:12 pm

K P 6 wrote:More guards that don’t play defense and don’t pass. Never learn..


DSJ is a better passer than anyone on our roster.
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Re: ScoopB: Knicks/Mavs have discussed Frank/THJ for DSJ/Wes 

Post#1760 » by FemaleDogPlease » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:13 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
FemaleDogPlease wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:We already have 21 pages on a fictitious trade while the Mavs board has only 4 pages on a possible Dennis Smith trade with the Magic but no discussion about a potential trade with the Knicks.

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1791070


There are other Mavs forums with more discussion going on.

Mavs fan dont want to trade DSJ. The argument I see the most is DSJ is actually playing and producing while Frank can't produce on a 10 win team.


Well, they are getting the superior THJr in the trade, so that should even it out


THJ is an upgrade over Matthews.

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