2018/2019 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.)

[br7knicks]

DSJ has his issues, but he can still be a really good player. The talent is there.

Compared to Frank? They are totally different players so it’s hard to compare. I wouldn’t be surprised if either one ends up better in the end. Frank is further away at this point. DSJ still has upside though.

The Wes for Timmy part? That is a landslide and the tipping point.

knicks need a pg, not another undersized combo guard.

Exactly. I want defense, team first PG. Dsjr is not that. He'd be a downgrade from frank, and I'm not a big frank fan yet

[blueNorange]

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Would you give up Frank just to get rid of Tim for an expiring contract and a second round pick?

No, because I think Frank is going to be a glue guy you need to win, but if the club is going to keep playing Mudiay or goes back to playing Burke and icing out Frank, then I'd like to see Frank get a shot with a club that actually has a clue

What if Frank turns out to be a bum?

This is what a rebuild looks like. Cycling through guys until you find guys you can build around.

then he'll be a bum that plays defense and can make the extra pass.

[br7knicks]

the problem is that DSJ is showing his stupidity and limits as a player where Frank is just stating to come into his value

were basically selling low on Frank just to move Thjr which was a self imposed fault

ok, I get it for the youth and salary so fine I guess
and if Orl wants DSJ then Id be happy to send him there for Fournier


For example

Dallas:
Sends DSJ and Mathews
Gets Frank and THjr

Orl:
Sends Fournier and Ross
Gets DSJ, Lance Tomas and Courtney Lee

NY:
Sends Thomas, Lee, THjr and Frank
Gets Fournier, Ross, Mathews


we shed salary and IMO upgrade the SG position at the same time at the cost of Frank

Orl gets Smith and shores up their loss of Fournier with Lee and has Thomas as a cap balance. They actually shed long term salary

Dallas gets what they want

I'm with you, on the first part. Been reading nothing but poor reviews about dsjr with attitude and ****. So not want a guy like that at all, even just to shed Timmy's contract.

Are we really hoping the Knicks abandon the rebuild idea already? Shedding Timmy in hopes of signing Durant (nope, not happening), when, realistically, Knicks are gonna max out/overpay a few over the hill players?

Unless it's for a straight up player's expiring contract, stay the damn course.

Dsjr is not an upgrade over frank at this point. Dumping salary is moot because no one significant is coming. If they did, Knicks don't have enough firepower to be contenders now anyway, not with Philly and Boston being at the top the next few years.

Just dumb if this move happens

i very much disagree that its a forgone conclusion that no one comes here

even if its not Durant or Kawai we could very possibly offer a 20mil deal to Rozier and be smart to do so


and then there is Tobias Harris, Bledstoe and Khris Middleton all in the same boat

if Kawhai goes to LAC then Harris is going somewhere else
he's been very very solid this year

he and Rozier with KP, Knox and this years pick - say Reddish - makes a solid core to build on

Don't see Durant or kawhi coming here.

Don't think rozier at 20 would be good, but I'd like to see how mudiay pans out, and how much he'd look to get. Rozier would be better option tho.

I like Harris, and I could see him coming to NY to get paid, but also compete.

Bledsoe would just look to get paid.

Love the **** out of Middleton, and think he'd be great with KP. Don't see him leaving Milwaukee for any reason, tho. Think he wants to get paid but I see bucks giving him money before bledsoe

[blueNorange]

ppl complain and complain how the ball sticks to thj hands, how burke/mudiay always ices out knox to get their own.

yet their solution is dsj, a guy who can't run an nba offense and looks for his own. he couldn't run one last year and he immediately lost any chance of running one this year when the mavs realized luka can run an offense better than dsj birdbox style.

wild that people think the mavs are selling high and not getting rid of someone who lets the world know he's sulking.

[3toheadmelo]

Bumping this for the misinformed

it's obvious to me a lot of people here do not watch mavs games. so i am just going to leave this here. this is what a Mavs board Mod quoted me on the GB. he basically says what i have been saying about DSJ this whole season.

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you're the donald trump of realgm. yikes

[blueNorange]

Bumping this for the misinformed

you're the donald trump of realgm. yikes

technically that'd be you since you use tweets as facts ala donald trump

remember how trey burke was the solution to the knicks pg woes? you remember, you posted tweets comparing him to elite players.

[3toheadmelo]

Not only is Dsj a poor fit/ poor defender he’s also torn his acl what twice? Three times?

He only tore it once and he actually had an extra acl in his knee so his recovery was way smoother than a normal ACL tear since they didn't need to have to put part of another muscle in it's place...

Now can we please stop with spreading misinformation about DSJ.... I won't go into the fit issue or defense that you described because I don't have the energy today, but god damn some of you guys just run with strereotypes of players without having watched them play significantly or looked at the numbers at all.

im sure most of this board has probably seen 2 mavs games at most this season
so many awful takes about DSJ. i find it truly astonishing

[FemaleDogPlease]

ppl complain and complain how the ball sticks to thj hands, how burke/mudiay always ices out knox to get their own.

yet their solution is dsj, a guy who can't run an nba offense and looks for his own. he couldn't run one last year and he immediately lost any chance of running one this year when the mavs realized luka can run an offense better than dsj birdbox style.

wild that people think the mavs are selling high and not getting rid of someone who lets the world know he's sulking.

DSJ isn't sulking though. You are just making stuff up now.

[blueNorange]

Not only is Dsj a poor fit/ poor defender he’s also torn his acl what twice? Three times?

He only tore it once and he actually had an extra acl in his knee so his recovery was way smoother than a normal ACL tear since they didn't need to have to put part of another muscle in it's place...

Now can we please stop with spreading misinformation about DSJ.... I won't go into the fit issue or defense that you described because I don't have the energy today, but god damn some of you guys just run with strereotypes of players without having watched them play significantly or looked at the numbers at all.

im sure most of this board has probably seen 2 mavs games at most this season
so many awful takes about DSJ. i find it truly astonishing

since you've seen so any mavs game i'm guessing you first hand saw dsj's role diminish because he sucks.

[blueNorange]

ppl complain and complain how the ball sticks to thj hands, how burke/mudiay always ices out knox to get their own.

yet their solution is dsj, a guy who can't run an nba offense and looks for his own. he couldn't run one last year and he immediately lost any chance of running one this year when the mavs realized luka can run an offense better than dsj birdbox style.

wild that people think the mavs are selling high and not getting rid of someone who lets the world know he's sulking.

DSJ isn't sulking though. You are just making stuff up now.

my man in the opening nba season carlilse on tv was seen saying to dsj "what's the matter" after dsj was pouting.

2 months later dsj is calling in sick and on the verge of being dumped.

[3toheadmelo]

you're the donald trump of realgm. yikes

technically that'd be you since you use tweets as facts ala donald trump

remember how trey burke was the solution to the knicks pg woes? you remember, you posted tweets comparing him to elite players.

very trump like post again bno. talking BS out of your ass once again.

find a post where i said Burke was the solution to our pg woes. i'll wait. literally all of my burke posts said that IF he continued to build on his play from last season, there was a chance he could be our long term PG. obviously he didn't.


and yeah i posted tweets. u mad? burke put up numbers that our guards haven't done in a while. that's literally all the tweets said. those are facts.

[3toheadmelo]

ppl complain and complain how the ball sticks to thj hands, how burke/mudiay always ices out knox to get their own.

yet their solution is dsj, a guy who can't run an nba offense and looks for his own. he couldn't run one last year and he immediately lost any chance of running one this year when the mavs realized luka can run an offense better than dsj birdbox style.

wild that people think the mavs are selling high and not getting rid of someone who lets the world know he's sulking.

DSJ isn't sulking though. You are just making stuff up now.

that's all bno does. he makes up **** to push his dumb agendas while embarrassing himself in the process

[cuyankees]

Just glad this deal is so far from realistic that we won't see Frank gone & DSJ coming

[cuyankees]

you're the donald trump of realgm. yikes

technically that'd be you since you use tweets as facts ala donald trump

remember how trey burke was the solution to the knicks pg woes? you remember, you posted tweets comparing him to elite players.

very trump like post again bno. talking BS out of your ass once again.

find a post where i said Burke was the solution to our pg woes. i'll wait. literally all of my burke posts said that IF he continued to build on his play from last season, there was a chance he could be our long term PG. obviously he didn't.


and yeah i posted tweets. u mad? burke put up numbers that our guards haven't done in a while. that's literally all the tweets said. those are facts.

Wait, are you poster that started Treyverson worth 20mn a year blasphemy?!

[blueNorange]

find a post where i said Burke was the solution to our pg woes. i'll wait. literally all of my burke posts said that IF he continued to build on his play from last season, there was a chance he could be our long term PG. obviously he didn't.

i mean .. you just answered yourself.

[blueNorange]

technically that'd be you since you use tweets as facts ala donald trump

remember how trey burke was the solution to the knicks pg woes? you remember, you posted tweets comparing him to elite players.

very trump like post again bno. talking BS out of your ass once again.

find a post where i said Burke was the solution to our pg woes. i'll wait. literally all of my burke posts said that IF he continued to build on his play from last season, there was a chance he could be our long term PG. obviously he didn't.


and yeah i posted tweets. u mad? burke put up numbers that our guards haven't done in a while. that's literally all the tweets said. those are facts.

Wait, are you poster that started Treyverson worth 20mn a year blasphemy?!

no, 3tohead ain't that insane.

[3toheadmelo]

technically that'd be you since you use tweets as facts ala donald trump

remember how trey burke was the solution to the knicks pg woes? you remember, you posted tweets comparing him to elite players.

very trump like post again bno. talking BS out of your ass once again.

find a post where i said Burke was the solution to our pg woes. i'll wait. literally all of my burke posts said that IF he continued to build on his play from last season, there was a chance he could be our long term PG. obviously he didn't.


and yeah i posted tweets. u mad? burke put up numbers that our guards haven't done in a while. that's literally all the tweets said. those are facts.

Wait, are you poster that started Treyverson worth 20mn a year blasphemy?!

hell no

[cuyankees]

very trump like post again bno. talking BS out of your ass once again.

find a post where i said Burke was the solution to our pg woes. i'll wait. literally all of my burke posts said that IF he continued to build on his play from last season, there was a chance he could be our long term PG. obviously he didn't.


and yeah i posted tweets. u mad? burke put up numbers that our guards haven't done in a while. that's literally all the tweets said. those are facts.

Wait, are you poster that started Treyverson worth 20mn a year blasphemy?!

hell no

Phew...

What about ISO Zo = DRose preinjury? Swear that a similar username made of these crackhead comments

[3toheadmelo]

find a post where i said Burke was the solution to our pg woes. i'll wait. literally all of my burke posts said that IF he continued to build on his play from last season, there was a chance he could be our long term PG. obviously he didn't.

i mean .. you just answered yourself.

there's a difference between what I said and what you said. if you can't see it then i'll take it you're just trolling.

[blueNorange]

find a post where i said Burke was the solution to our pg woes. i'll wait. literally all of my burke posts said that IF he continued to build on his play from last season, there was a chance he could be our long term PG. obviously he didn't.

i mean .. you just answered yourself.

there's a difference between what I said and what you said. if you can't see it then i'll take it you're just trolling.

no you're just not accepting the L after hyping up burke when he was in the g-league, when he came to the knicks, all summer long, and during pre-season.

but i guess now it was a big 'IF'