2018/2019 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.)

[Bklyn&company]

Well we did find Allonzo Trier. Known commodities, slept on for whatever reasons but known. Monte Morris wasn’t some outside the box find.

Nah.. Allonzo is a under size volume shooter... pretty much that's it. Lou Will mode but very lite. The same player in college not a find.

Monte Morris will have been our starting PG right now... and yes Morris has greatly improved since high top Iowa St(I watched him for 3 yrs)... it's only his second year and he has starting stuff... that's my point. He is just one of many examples I can pull out, especially from Denver..

You put M.Morris on the Knicks and he doesn't look as good as he does when you put him on a team with talent all over the place like Denver has. I still think he would play well but not as well on a bad team as a good team. I also don't think he was some great find by them cause he was getting plenty of attention in the draft and if i remember right there was some reason for why he dropped. It was either something with his size or an injury or something but i do remember him being talked about but there being some reason why teams weren't sold on taking him early in the draft.

Nah
.. that's your opinion... on the Knicks he is our best PG. Period..

[robillionaire]

Nah.. Allonzo is a under size volume shooter... pretty much that's it. Lou Will mode but very lite. The same player in college not a find.

Monte Morris will have been our starting PG right now... and yes Morris has greatly improved since high top Iowa St(I watched him for 3 yrs)... it's only his second year and he has starting stuff... that's my point. He is just one of many examples I can pull out, especially from Denver..

You put M.Morris on the Knicks and he doesn't look as good as he does when you put him on a team with talent all over the place like Denver has. I still think he would play well but not as well on a bad team as a good team. I also don't think he was some great find by them cause he was getting plenty of attention in the draft and if i remember right there was some reason for why he dropped. It was either something with his size or an injury or something but i do remember him being talked about but there being some reason why teams weren't sold on taking him early in the draft.

Nah
.. that's your opinion... on the Knicks he is our best PG. Period..

That’s not saying much

[newyorker4ever]

Nah.. Allonzo is a under size volume shooter... pretty much that's it. Lou Will mode but very lite. The same player in college not a find.

Monte Morris will have been our starting PG right now... and yes Morris has greatly improved since high top Iowa St(I watched him for 3 yrs)... it's only his second year and he has starting stuff... that's my point. He is just one of many examples I can pull out, especially from Denver..

You put M.Morris on the Knicks and he doesn't look as good as he does when you put him on a team with talent all over the place like Denver has. I still think he would play well but not as well on a bad team as a good team. I also don't think he was some great find by them cause he was getting plenty of attention in the draft and if i remember right there was some reason for why he dropped. It was either something with his size or an injury or something but i do remember him being talked about but there being some reason why teams weren't sold on taking him early in the draft.

Nah
.. that's your opinion... on the Knicks he is our best PG. Period..

Opinions vary. So he's better then Frank, Burke and Mudiay....wow that's impressive.

[Bklyn&company]

You put M.Morris on the Knicks and he doesn't look as good as he does when you put him on a team with talent all over the place like Denver has. I still think he would play well but not as well on a bad team as a good team. I also don't think he was some great find by them cause he was getting plenty of attention in the draft and if i remember right there was some reason for why he dropped. It was either something with his size or an injury or something but i do remember him being talked about but there being some reason why teams weren't sold on taking him early in the draft.

Nah
.. that's your opinion... on the Knicks he is our best PG. Period..

Opinions vary. So he's better then Frank, Burke and Mudiay....wow that's impressive.

Yes, as a true point guard total package... yup

Knicks love finding hybrids

[Sark]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2019/01/20/new-york-knicks-trade-deadline-primer/#1cd7a2847db6

[Bklyn&company]

You put M.Morris on the Knicks and he doesn't look as good as he does when you put him on a team with talent all over the place like Denver has. I still think he would play well but not as well on a bad team as a good team. I also don't think he was some great find by them cause he was getting plenty of attention in the draft and if i remember right there was some reason for why he dropped. It was either something with his size or an injury or something but i do remember him being talked about but there being some reason why teams weren't sold on taking him early in the draft.

Nah
.. that's your opinion... on the Knicks he is our best PG. Period..

That’s not saying much

And you just said nothing at all... Kanye Shrug

[reub]

Frank and Vonleh for Fultz. What do you think?

[br7knicks]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2019/01/20/new-york-knicks-trade-deadline-primer/#1cd7a2847db6

Pretty good analysis.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

And Monte Morris isn’t the dude to get across the point you’re trying to make. He’s an ok player.
He’s not “a find”.

[cgf]

Frank and Vonleh for Fultz. What do you think?

Sounds like a terrible trade

[reub]

Frank and Vonleh for Fultz. What do you think?

Sounds like a terrible trade

Vonleh is gone after the season unless we sign him for big bucks.
Frank is not as good a prospect as Fultz is, although I like Frank a lot.

[cgf]

Frank and Vonleh for Fultz. What do you think?

Sounds like a terrible trade

Vonleh is gone after the season unless we sign him for big bucks.
Frank is not as good a prospect as Fultz is, although I like Frank a lot.

Fultz is a worse prospect than Frank at this point...and he costs 3 times as much...

[br7knicks]

Frank and Vonleh for Fultz. What do you think?

Sounds like a terrible trade

Yeah, I'd definitely take frank over fultz at this point. Maybe if 76ers would do vonleh and a second rounder. Anything more than that for a broken player isn't worth it, at all.

Look at, who was it, royce white? Think they said he would've been top 5 at the time if not for his mental/emotional disability. I felt bad for that guy

[Wololo]

What do you think about this offers for Porzingis from Celtics' fans on "Trades and transactions"?:

OFFER A:

"I will gave Brown, Yabusele,Ojeleye,LA Clippers pick,Boston pick, lesser of Memphis and Sacramento pick in 2019 for Porzingis 5 years S&T.

So, Boston remaining pick in 2019 is the great value pick between Memphis and Sacramento"

OFFER B:

"Rozier, Yabou, Morris, 4 x 2019 first rounders, 1 future unprotected first rounder"

Memphis Pick: protected for selections 1-8 in 2019 and 1-6 in 2020 and unprotected in 2021
Sacramento Pick: protected for selection 1
Clippers Pick: protected for selections 1-14 in 2019 and 1-14 in 2020

[cgf]

Hard pass on both. Tatum is the only Boston piece that could get me to consider moving KP, any deal without him doesn't even warrant a counter offer IMO.

[TBri1974]

I actually think Boston is the perfect destination for KP, and would make them immediate contenders. The offer I would consider from Boston includes all the Memphis pick, the Sacramento pick, and the lesser of the Clippers/Celtics pick plus Brown, Rozier and Morris for KP and THJ. I don't think we keep Rozier or Morris - one never knows - but Brown plus the three picks is enough to put our rebuild where it should be. Brown, Dotson, Ntilikina, Knox and Robinson also begin to make up a strong, defensively minded unit (except for Knox).

[cgf]

I actually think Boston is the perfect destination for KP, and would make them immediate contenders. The offer I would consider from Boston includes all the Memphis pick, the Sacramento pick, and the lesser of the Clippers/Celtics pick plus Brown, Rozier and Morris for KP and THJ. I don't think we keep Rozier or Morris - one never knows - but Brown plus the three picks is enough to put our rebuild where it should be. Brown, Dotson, Ntilikina, Knox and Robinson also begin to make up a strong, defensively minded unit (except for Knox).

Brown + two late lotto picks & a late 1st for KP would make some sense if this was hockey, but in basketball that is a brutal trade. Even if we hit with each of those picks we’d still be lacking a player like KP to build around.

[TBri1974]

I actually think Boston is the perfect destination for KP, and would make them immediate contenders. The offer I would consider from Boston includes all the Memphis pick, the Sacramento pick, and the lesser of the Clippers/Celtics pick plus Brown, Rozier and Morris for KP and THJ. I don't think we keep Rozier or Morris - one never knows - but Brown plus the three picks is enough to put our rebuild where it should be. Brown, Dotson, Ntilikina, Knox and Robinson also begin to make up a strong, defensively minded unit (except for Knox).

Brown + two late lotto picks & a late 1st for KP would make some sense if this was hockey, but in basketball that is a brutal trade. Even if we hit with each of those picks we’d still be lacking a player like KP to build around.

I agree. I only make this trade if I don't think KP is happy and will leave. Boston may say its overpaying, the truth is the chance of any of those picks making the impact KP could is minimal (although I am a huge Brown fan).

[spree2kawhi]

You do trades like that on draft night, so you can see what you can get.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

You know who we should target in free agency?
D’Angelo Russell.
Makes all the sense in the world.