GT #50: Wizards @ Cavaliers 7 PM

[dlts20]

The fact that Troy Brown, a 19 year old, is getting time on a team like the Wizards is actually impressive. He can't be judged until 2021 at the earliest.

What do you mean a team like the Wizards? You make it sound like we are the Warriors or something

[pcbothwel]

The fact that Troy Brown, a 19 year old, is getting time on a team like the Wizards is actually impressive. He can't be judged until 2021 at the earliest.

What do you mean a team like the Wizards? You make it sound like we are the Warriors or something

LOL... I think he just means we arent tanking and throwing out any and everybody the way the Cavs & Bulls are. Not saying we're good.

[JWizmentality]

The majority of those were home games against weak or diminished opponents.

As I said two weeks ago , wait until they start playing road games and reality will hit you guys in the face. Same thing that happened last year.. this current rotation has a low ceiling and we should stop being fooled by little hot streaks.

As opposed to what? Is someone claiming that this rotation is beating GS? The john wall markieff morris team was headed straight for the worst record in the NBA. Some people just enjoy watching a non dumpster fire unselfish team for once. Get off your high horse for a minute and understand this.

They could lose every game for the rest of the year and draft Zion, it wouldn't make a difference if mr franchise comes back and forces the team to play 4 on 5 again. They have to fix these culture issues somehow before anything else.

i'm not against tanking, but this current roster has shown that John Wall is the issue and needs to go. Tank for Morant and move Wall in the offseason, thats what I want.

Yeah, the culture issues are great now because Wall was a big meanie head who bullies everyone.

Last time we lost to Cleveland I was told John Wall was the root cause of them playing lazy and overlooking opponents. Great to see the leadership of Bradley Beal and Otto Porter turning things around 180 degrees

Read on Twitter

Tank for Cam Reddish and dump the most mentally weak player on the team , Otto Porter, in the offseason.. that sounds even better to me.

Good grief. This team's issues goes waaay beyond just Wall. Yes we move the ball better without him, but it sure as hell doesn't mean we're going to be winning a substantial amount more games. We're still more or less the same team. You stick Wall up as the boogie man and root of all evil. Such a lazy and simplistic way of viewing things.

[Ruzious]

As opposed to what? Is someone claiming that this rotation is beating GS? The john wall markieff morris team was headed straight for the worst record in the NBA. Some people just enjoy watching a non dumpster fire unselfish team for once. Get off your high horse for a minute and understand this.

They could lose every game for the rest of the year and draft Zion, it wouldn't make a difference if mr franchise comes back and forces the team to play 4 on 5 again. They have to fix these culture issues somehow before anything else.

i'm not against tanking, but this current roster has shown that John Wall is the issue and needs to go. Tank for Morant and move Wall in the offseason, thats what I want.

Yeah, the culture issues are great now because Wall was a big meanie head who bullies everyone.

Last time we lost to Cleveland I was told John Wall was the root cause of them playing lazy and overlooking opponents. Great to see the leadership of Bradley Beal and Otto Porter turning things around 180 degrees

Read on Twitter

Tank for Cam Reddish and dump the most mentally weak player on the team , Otto Porter, in the offseason.. that sounds even better to me.

Good grief. This team's issues goes waaay beyond just Wall. Yes we move the ball better without him, but it sure as hell doesn't mean we're going to be winning a substantial amount more games. We're still more or less the same team. You stick Wall up as the boogie man and root of all evil. Such a lazy and simplistic way of viewing things.

Lol at Beal essentially saying they couldn't get up for Cleveland. The Wiz actually had a trap game.

Btw, Cam Reddish... seriously? He's shooting 35% for Duke and shows all the intensity of a fish taking a nap.

[DCZards]

Good grief. This team's issues goes waaay beyond just Wall. Yes we move the ball better without him, but it sure as hell doesn't mean we're going to be winning a substantial amount more games. We're still more or less the same team. You stick Wall up as the boogie man and root of all evil. Such a lazy and simplistic way of viewing things.

The frustration with Wall's play earlier this year is legit and understandable. I share that frustration. John's laziness on D, bad shot selection and failure to move the ball and get teammates involved was simply bad basketball. I don't know how much of it had to do with the fact that he was injured and probably playing in pain most nights.

But Wall shouldn't be the whipping boy for what's wrong with the Zards. Because this is still a better team with a healthy John Wall playing the right way. What we all should hope as Zards fans is that watching from the bench and seeing how much better the team is when both the ball and players are moving is a lesson that Wall will take to heart.

I'm not opposed to trading Wall, especially given his burdensome contract. But the Zards need to make sure they get something of value in return because we'd be trading away an immensely talented PG who is capable of making both his team and everyone around him a whole lot better.

[80sballboy]

Yeah, the culture issues are great now because Wall was a big meanie head who bullies everyone.

Last time we lost to Cleveland I was told John Wall was the root cause of them playing lazy and overlooking opponents. Great to see the leadership of Bradley Beal and Otto Porter turning things around 180 degrees

Read on Twitter

Tank for Cam Reddish and dump the most mentally weak player on the team , Otto Porter, in the offseason.. that sounds even better to me.

Good grief. This team's issues goes waaay beyond just Wall. Yes we move the ball better without him, but it sure as hell doesn't mean we're going to be winning a substantial amount more games. We're still more or less the same team. You stick Wall up as the boogie man and root of all evil. Such a lazy and simplistic way of viewing things.

Lol at Beal essentially saying they couldn't get up for Cleveland. The Wiz actually had a trap game.

Btw, Cam Reddish... seriously? He's shooting 35% for Duke and shows all the intensity of a fish taking a nap.

I didn't realize Reddish was shooting that poorly.

[JWizmentality]

It's not even a matter of getting up for games. We are just not that good. PERIOD! We have got to be the cockiest lousy team in the league. We are never going to get better when the leaders of this team thinks they've already arrived. It starts with a mindset that when your arse just got bounced in the playoffs "Well Cleveland didn't want to see us anyway."

And most of you lauded it. Give me a break.

[Illmatic12]

Good grief. This team's issues goes waaay beyond just Wall. Yes we move the ball better without him, but it sure as hell doesn't mean we're going to be winning a substantial amount more games. We're still more or less the same team. You stick Wall up as the boogie man and root of all evil. Such a lazy and simplistic way of viewing things.

Lol at Beal essentially saying they couldn't get up for Cleveland. The Wiz actually had a trap game.

Btw, Cam Reddish... seriously? He's shooting 35% for Duke and shows all the intensity of a fish taking a nap.

I didn't realize Reddish was shooting that poorly.

Reddish imo is a much better shooter than his numbers (similar case to Beal at Florida)
Personally I believe that Duke's style of play isn't doing him any favors, the team doesn't know how to get him the ball in his spots where he can be efficient..

In my opinion Reddish is the exact type of prospect who is better suited for the NBA than NCAA, he has the size + strength to play multiple positions and you can easily imagine him succeeding next to more talented NBA players as glue guy. He's actually similar to Otto Porter in many ways - but the key differences are 1) Otto was never able to develop his body to matchup with physical forwards. Reddish seems like he can eventually have a strong , Harrison Barnes-type of frame.

2) Otto always shied away from taking on a greater offensive role, it's just not in his personality to be "the man".. Reddish has a track record in HS/AAU of being a bigtime talented scorer, I think he's second-guessing himself at Duke bc he's overshadowed by Zion + Reddish. In the right situation , I believe you could bring that aggression out of him and he could reach his offensive ceiling.

The other guy I would look at around our draft range is Jarrett Culver, smooth all-around wing player from Texas . If the Wizards can come away with either Culver or Barrett in the draft I'll be happy.

[NatP4]

As opposed to what? Is someone claiming that this rotation is beating GS? The john wall markieff morris team was headed straight for the worst record in the NBA. Some people just enjoy watching a non dumpster fire unselfish team for once. Get off your high horse for a minute and understand this.

They could lose every game for the rest of the year and draft Zion, it wouldn't make a difference if mr franchise comes back and forces the team to play 4 on 5 again. They have to fix these culture issues somehow before anything else.

i'm not against tanking, but this current roster has shown that John Wall is the issue and needs to go. Tank for Morant and move Wall in the offseason, thats what I want.

Yeah, the culture issues are great now because Wall was a big meanie head who bullies everyone.

Last time we lost to Cleveland I was told John Wall was the root cause of them playing lazy and overlooking opponents. Great to see the leadership of Bradley Beal and Otto Porter turning things around 180 degrees

Read on Twitter

Tank for Cam Reddish and dump the most mentally weak player on the team , Otto Porter, in the offseason.. that sounds even better to me.

Good grief. This team's issues goes waaay beyond just Wall. Yes we move the ball better without him, but it sure as hell doesn't mean we're going to be winning a substantial amount more games. We're still more or less the same team. You stick Wall up as the boogie man and root of all evil. Such a lazy and simplistic way of viewing things.

What is the team’s record with/without Wall?

[nate33]

Good grief. This team's issues goes waaay beyond just Wall. Yes we move the ball better without him, but it sure as hell doesn't mean we're going to be winning a substantial amount more games. We're still more or less the same team. You stick Wall up as the boogie man and root of all evil. Such a lazy and simplistic way of viewing things.

What is the team’s record with/without Wall?

With Wall
11-21

Without Wall
11-8

[JWizmentality]

Good grief. This team's issues goes waaay beyond just Wall. Yes we move the ball better without him, but it sure as hell doesn't mean we're going to be winning a substantial amount more games. We're still more or less the same team. You stick Wall up as the boogie man and root of all evil. Such a lazy and simplistic way of viewing things.

What is the team’s record with/without Wall?

With Wall
11-21

Without Wall
11-8

And the record last year? You guys were singing that tune as well before we hobbled into the playoffs.

We're a .500 team at best with or without Wall. We can compete with the best of teams and lose to the worst. We're inconsistent. Wall's play stalls the offense so yes the ball movement helps a lot but we still have glaring holes let alone the poor coaching.We started this year off horrendously and just like you give this year Otto a pass, how about give Wall a pass for a guy who actually has evidence of being hurt. Otherwise if we're going by the totality of the past two years.....we suck. Wall is just one of those issues.