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sully00 wrote:Captain_Caveman wrote:DeAndre to Ws if he gets bought out?
I would think Boston would be the spot. There is no team in the league that is as big of a donut as Boston. Even Smart hits 3's now we can have one guy who doesn't shoot 3's if he will grab 14 rebs and protect the rim. Hell give Brad a few weeks and maybe he will have him making 3's.
Bleeding Green wrote:canman1971 wrote:Bleeding Green wrote:Underrated is that the Knicks have one of the better packages to offer for AD. You don't want them getting AD before free agency and using him as a carrot to attract KD/Kyrie. This is legit an awesome trade for the Knicks. Porzingis sucks and will require the max after next year. Good luck to the Mavs; they better hope Luka is the best player in the league and that Porzingis takes whatever health serum Embiid started taking because they are going to be thiiiiiiin as **** everywhere else on the roster.
Overrated is the franchise called the Knicks, who haven't won **** in decades and they won't. It's all media driven. Pretty sad actually.
Sure, you could have said the same about the Celtics in 2006. or the Warriors in 2013. Or the Thunder ever. All it takes is a couple things going right. It's been a crappy organization for 20+ years, tomorrow doesn't care about that.
hickfromfrenchlick wrote:Bleeding Green wrote:canman1971 wrote:Overrated is the franchise called the Knicks, who haven't won **** in decades and they won't. It's all media driven. Pretty sad actually.
Sure, you could have said the same about the Celtics in 2006. or the Warriors in 2013. Or the Thunder ever. All it takes is a couple things going right. It's been a crappy organization for 20+ years, tomorrow doesn't care about that.
Hi, Bleeding Green. My name is James. It's nice to meet you.
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Kyrie For Three wrote:Upperclass wrote:This is crazy.. an added effect is also suddenly Kyrie has zero value in a trade
He never was being traded.
Duke4life831 wrote:Patsfan1081 wrote:Bleeding Green wrote:Underrated is that the Knicks have one of the better packages to offer for AD. You don't want them getting AD before free agency and using him as a carrot to attract KD/Kyrie. This is legit an awesome trade for the Knicks. Porzingis sucks and will require the max after next year. Good luck to the Mavs; they better hope Luka is the best player in the league and that Porzingis takes whatever health serum Embiid started taking because they are going to be thiiiiiiin as **** everywhere else on the roster.
Do they? Knox has the worst RPM amount forwards in the league and couldn't even make the future stars game. No matter where the Knicks finish their best odds to get Zion will be 25%, which goes out the window if AD plays for them this year. Is that enough to land AD?
It all depends on if they get that #1 spot. Zion will be the trump card for NY in an AD trade.
So based off your other post, I'm assuming you think La successfully trade for Anthony Davis, and Kyrie walks to New York this offseason?Upperclass wrote:DeAndre probably takes Zubacs spot on the Lakers after they trade for AD.
Bleeding Green wrote:hickfromfrenchlick wrote:Bleeding Green wrote:Sure, you could have said the same about the Celtics in 2006. or the Warriors in 2013. Or the Thunder ever. All it takes is a couple things going right. It's been a crappy organization for 20+ years, tomorrow doesn't care about that.
Hi, Bleeding Green. My name is James. It's nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you. When did you last give any input on anything related to the Knicks?
djFan71 wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:Patsfan1081 wrote:
Do they? Knox has the worst RPM amount forwards in the league and couldn't even make the future stars game. No matter where the Knicks finish their best odds to get Zion will be 25%, which goes out the window if AD plays for them this year. Is that enough to land AD?
It all depends on if they get that #1 spot. Zion will be the trump card for NY in an AD trade.
This is going be the lottery to end all lotteries. Determines where Zion and AD end up.
Jaqua92 wrote:So based off your other post, I'm assuming you think La successfully trade for Anthony Davis, and Kyrie walks to New York this offseason?Upperclass wrote:DeAndre probably takes Zubacs spot on the Lakers after they trade for AD.
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Bleeding Green wrote:hickfromfrenchlick wrote:Bleeding Green wrote:Sure, you could have said the same about the Celtics in 2006. or the Warriors in 2013. Or the Thunder ever. All it takes is a couple things going right. It's been a crappy organization for 20+ years, tomorrow doesn't care about that.
Hi, Bleeding Green. My name is James. It's nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you. When did you last give any input on anything related to the Knicks?
Captain_Caveman wrote:EDIT: Knicks have about $71m in cap room, enough to land KD and Kyrie.
As it stands, they'd a little shy of being able to match AD's trade number next offseason, but AD could waive the trade kicker and they can get there.
But... to have any chance to beat out Boston's offer, they really need that pick to come in high -- likely #1 for Zion. Only a 14% shot at that, and even that is debatable to beat out Tatum and picks.
Their AD offer would be 2019 pick, Knox, DSJ, Ntilikina, Mitchell, future picks.
Upperclass wrote:Captain_Caveman wrote:EDIT: Knicks have about $71m in cap room, enough to land KD and Kyrie.
As it stands, they'd a little shy of being able to match AD's trade number next offseason, but AD could waive the trade kicker and they can get there.
But... to have any chance to beat out Boston's offer, they really need that pick to come in high -- likely #1 for Zion. Only a 14% shot at that, and even that is debatable to beat out Tatum and picks.
Their AD offer would be 2019 pick, Knox, DSJ, Ntilikina, Mitchell, future picks.
Zion would be more valuable than any asset or collection of assets the Celts have.
You think that New York can beat us for Anthony Davis without KP? The first overall pick and their young role players does not beat out all our first round picks, all star player in Tatum and whatever else they want in my opinionDuke4life831 wrote:djFan71 wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:
It all depends on if they get that #1 spot. Zion will be the trump card for NY in an AD trade.
This is going be the lottery to end all lotteries. Determines where Zion and AD end up.
Yup. Im sure if NY lands the #1 pick theyre going to pitch every meeting with a star is going to be, "we have enough cap space to sign you and have you pair up with another max free agent. Once both of you are on board, we will trade for AD and the 3 of you can run NY."
Even if its not Kyrie, Im sure theyre going to try and get any combo of (Kyrie/KD/Kawhi/Kemba/Butler). If they dont land any free agents then they just keep Zion. But ya NY getting that #1 pick would open a ton of possibilities for them and makes that team a much more desirable destination with how easily they would be able to trade for AD.
canman1971 wrote:Seriously people, when is the last time the Knicks did anything remotely significant or competent? The fact that this crap franchise is even being talked about is media driven and it's NY. You know what? We live in a more global world and nobody gives a **** about New York, whether it's the Knicks, Yankees, Mets, Rangers or whoever.
Zion, and other players maybe. But Zion alone is not a better treat piece than Tatum, Brown, and four first round picks.Upperclass wrote:Captain_Caveman wrote:EDIT: Knicks have about $71m in cap room, enough to land KD and Kyrie.
As it stands, they'd a little shy of being able to match AD's trade number next offseason, but AD could waive the trade kicker and they can get there.
But... to have any chance to beat out Boston's offer, they really need that pick to come in high -- likely #1 for Zion. Only a 14% shot at that, and even that is debatable to beat out Tatum and picks.
Their AD offer would be 2019 pick, Knox, DSJ, Ntilikina, Mitchell, future picks.
Zion would be more valuable than any asset or collection of assets the Celts have.