FA/Trade Rumors & Discussion - Durant, Kyrie, AD, etc

[knickstape4ever]

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nah, he chose his words wisely. "He could care less" which means he cares, maybe he's trying to fool us

[JXL]

what he's saying is the knicks are a destination because everybody thinks durant is coming. it's like i said yesterday, so many of these media guys are convinced.

I personally think Klutches co-sign via the AD rumors is a huge deal. I also am not convinced it means anything specifically with AD, but instead is a signal from the Lebron group that things have changed and the Knicks are a viable landing spot.

It's been a long journey since the last major Knicks FA cap space when they put forth just about the wrongest foot possible with the clueless/classless James Dolan, chucklehead D'Antoni, and a wheelchair-bound old white man in Donnie Walsh in the room to sell James on coming here and effectively working for them. Yes that's disrespecting any business/basketball acumen they have, but it's the optics.

Since then Lebron has become an outspoken activist for the empowerment of athletes on the whole, and also specifically for black athletes getting into positions of power - both officially by title and unofficially by using there star power more effectively to control their path. That's the kind of isht those holding positions of power with the Knicks since Lebron's time in the league have hated. Lebron has really funneled a ton of money and time in the pursuit of growing his own power as an individual, and encouraging other athletes to do the same.

Since then the Knicks have arrived at a point now where they have highly-credentialed black men in positions of power helming the day-to-day operations of the organization, and who are conscious of that modern player's mindset. Most importantly they have created the perception that they are relatable to it (the mindset). While it doesn't hurt, I don't necessarily think that a FO has to be black in order to curry this favor, but they just have to be RELATABLE. A huge problem for the Knicks historically has been the clumsiness/ignorance with which they try to sell themselves to the modern athlete.

Of course Dolan is still there and still a problem, but almost every team in the league outside of SAC and CHA is going to have similar issues with those optics. With Mills, Perry, and Fizdale the Knicks are positioned perhaps better than any other team in the league to be accepted as a place where legitimate star players can go to have power and create something together. I don't think it's any mistake that a guy as well connected and diligent as Perry ended up hiring a coach that is unquestionably the best coach in the league to try and draw star players attempting to form like Voltron.

Besides Perry doing major work as the GM to even make it attractive in the first place, I think this is exactly why the Knicks - with the worst record in the league - are on AD's list issued by the Lebron-influenced Klutch, and rumored for KD/Kyrie, and why the Celtics led by Danny Ainge, who has the perception of treating players like cold hard assets, are not.

This post you make is not only amazing but I wanted to make a thread kind of similar to this, moreso praising what Lebron is doing.

Lebron is never going to catch Jordan but he will surpass him as far as his likeability around the league.

Bron is taking over the league by having his best friend with his agency (black owned) signing top players, he’s communicating exclusively through Chris B Haynes (black reporter), he’s become outspoken on black issues, he plans to be a owner like Jordan but where Jordan was focused more on himself, Lebron is empowering others around him. He also took the bullets when he decided to join Miami Heat but doing so allowed players to make decisions for themselves as far as the teams they wanted to play on. Without Lebron doing that players would continue doing what they feel is right for the team vs what is right for themselves.

This may or may not ruffle feathers but as a black man we forgive but don’t forget. Back in the days it was unheard of a black coach, unheard of a black GM & then when they were awarded the opportunities they were the first to go based on not having friends in high places or family ties.

Lebron remembers all of that and is trying to change all of that. He’s trying to change the entire league and make it black. The trade James Jones made to help LeBron was filled with outrage because of people focusing on Lebron being Lebron but if you look deeper, it was the first sign of Bron showing you that the tides are changing with black agents/black gm’s having friends in high places.

Off-topic, but change your avatar and sig. It's time for a new era.

[Deeeez Knicks]

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[Stannis]

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This fooookeen guy

[Context]

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dis dude is annoying...

[NYKHardKnock]

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can we stop acting like this as a source

[knickstape4ever]

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he's a clown. don't think he's ever been right

[Spree2Houston]

Lmao seeing the Lakers about to get fleeced for all their assets for AD is poetic since they've been fleecing teams for their best players for decades.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

AD for Jordan
Wes Johnson for Frank, Knox and the two Dallas 1st round picks

Yeah
If only

We would be turning Kp into AD and cap space

AD for Jordan
Wes Johnson for Frank, Knox and the two Dallas 1st round picks

You think Knicks get to keep their 2019 pick, Trier and Mitchell in that scenario?

AD for Jordan
Wes Johnson for Frank, Knox and the two Dallas 1st round picks

exchange the Dallas picks for our 1st pick and I think thats more attractive than what the Lakers are offering.

AD for Jordan
Wes Johnson for Frank, Knox and the two Dallas 1st round picks

You think Knicks get to keep their 2019 pick, Trier and Mitchell in that scenario?

Right! I'm thinking Wes and/or Jordan , Knox, our 2019 1st round pick, and whoever else they want to take.

Yeah - sorry guys, throw in the Knicks pick (mebbe #1 prot) in the Wes <-> Frank+Knox trade.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

I personally think Klutches co-sign via the AD rumors is a huge deal. I also am not convinced it means anything specifically with AD, but instead is a signal from the Lebron group that things have changed and the Knicks are a viable landing spot.

It's been a long journey since the last major Knicks FA cap space when they put forth just about the wrongest foot possible with the clueless/classless James Dolan, chucklehead D'Antoni, and a wheelchair-bound old white man in Donnie Walsh in the room to sell James on coming here and effectively working for them. Yes that's disrespecting any business/basketball acumen they have, but it's the optics.

Since then Lebron has become an outspoken activist for the empowerment of athletes on the whole, and also specifically for black athletes getting into positions of power - both officially by title and unofficially by using there star power more effectively to control their path. That's the kind of isht those holding positions of power with the Knicks since Lebron's time in the league have hated. Lebron has really funneled a ton of money and time in the pursuit of growing his own power as an individual, and encouraging other athletes to do the same.

Since then the Knicks have arrived at a point now where they have highly-credentialed black men in positions of power helming the day-to-day operations of the organization, and who are conscious of that modern player's mindset. Most importantly they have created the perception that they are relatable to it (the mindset). While it doesn't hurt, I don't necessarily think that a FO has to be black in order to curry this favor, but they just have to be RELATABLE. A huge problem for the Knicks historically has been the clumsiness/ignorance with which they try to sell themselves to the modern athlete.

Of course Dolan is still there and still a problem, but almost every team in the league outside of SAC and CHA is going to have similar issues with those optics. With Mills, Perry, and Fizdale the Knicks are positioned perhaps better than any other team in the league to be accepted as a place where legitimate star players can go to have power and create something together. I don't think it's any mistake that a guy as well connected and diligent as Perry ended up hiring a coach that is unquestionably the best coach in the league to try and draw star players attempting to form like Voltron.

Besides Perry doing major work as the GM to even make it attractive in the first place, I think this is exactly why the Knicks - with the worst record in the league - are on AD's list issued by the Lebron-influenced Klutch, and rumored for KD/Kyrie, and why the Celtics led by Danny Ainge, who has the perception of treating players like cold hard assets, are not.

This post you make is not only amazing but I wanted to make a thread kind of similar to this, moreso praising what Lebron is doing.

Lebron is never going to catch Jordan but he will surpass him as far as his likeability around the league.

Bron is taking over the league by having his best friend with his agency (black owned) signing top players, he’s communicating exclusively through Chris B Haynes (black reporter), he’s become outspoken on black issues, he plans to be a owner like Jordan but where Jordan was focused more on himself, Lebron is empowering others around him. He also took the bullets when he decided to join Miami Heat but doing so allowed players to make decisions for themselves as far as the teams they wanted to play on. Without Lebron doing that players would continue doing what they feel is right for the team vs what is right for themselves.

This may or may not ruffle feathers but as a black man we forgive but don’t forget. Back in the days it was unheard of a black coach, unheard of a black GM & then when they were awarded the opportunities they were the first to go based on not having friends in high places or family ties.

Lebron remembers all of that and is trying to change all of that. He’s trying to change the entire league and make it black. The trade James Jones made to help LeBron was filled with outrage because of people focusing on Lebron being Lebron but if you look deeper, it was the first sign of Bron showing you that the tides are changing with black agents/black gm’s having friends in high places.

Off-topic, but change your avatar and sig. It's time for a new era.

Seemed on topic to me.

[seren]

Lmao seeing the Lakers about to get fleeced for all their assets for AD is poetic since they've been fleecing teams for their best players for decades.

Disagreed. AD plus Lebron is a power house. Lakers are fleecing the whole league with that weak package. Can’t believe Hornets are choosing Lakers’ clowns over useful picks.

[thebuzzardman]

Lakers-Lebron
Knicks-KD/Krie
Bucks-Giannis
Clippers-Kahwhi

Its official....

Look at it like this. GM's used to sit in backrooms, smoke cigars and run the league.

Not it's the star players. If viewed that way, it makes a lot more sense.

[Strick]

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That would make like a solid half week without having a player with a family massive ego driving their decisions.

Idk how credible this dude is tbh, but I wouldn't be "shocked" by this and to a certain extent I would even understand the thought process, but what's next in the 2nd year PG musical chairs game we would be playing? Talking to Philly about packaging DSJ for Markelle Fultz? Lol

Personally I would prefer to keep Frank just due to the fact that he would be a perfect player to have with guys like Kyrie and KD albeit no guarantee we get those guys

[shtolky]

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That would make like a solid half week without having a player with a family massive ego driving their decisions.

Idk how credible this dude is tbh, but I wouldn't be "shocked" by this and to a certain extent I would even understand the thought process, but what's next in the 2nd year PG musical chairs game we would be playing? Talking to Philly about packaging DSJ for Markelle Fultz? Lol

Personally I would prefer to keep Frank just due to the fact that he would be a perfect player to have with guys like Kyrie and KD albeit no guarantee we get those guys

He and Tommy Dee are in the "least credible people of all time" hall of fame. You can safely ignore this.

[RShahNyC89]

What if we just emptied the cupboard (minus Dot/Mitch) for Jrue and AD, and let Durant join them in the off season? I think a big three of Jrue/KD/AD would be a nightmare on both sides of the ball.

[Knicksfan1992]

Frank for Lonzo (right now) doesn't even make sense for us because that eats at our cap space going forward. Something like that would have to happen in the offseason.

[shtolky]

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Would this get them to max status for this summer?

[ItsPajama]

Lol Boston board getting shook and saying trade Kyrie to LAC before Thursday to lure KD or Leonard there to keep a dynasty away from NY

[Cookies4Life]

That's an awful lot the Lakers are willing to part with. Aside from the future 1sts, Ball and Ingram are their back to back #2 picks and Kuzma is carving himself a nice career for a late first rounder.

[seren]

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That would make like a solid half week without having a player with a family massive ego driving their decisions.

Idk how credible this dude is tbh, but I wouldn't be "shocked" by this and to a certain extent I would even understand the thought process, but what's next in the 2nd year PG musical chairs game we would be playing? Talking to Philly about packaging DSJ for Markelle Fultz? Lol

Personally I would prefer to keep Frank just due to the fact that he would be a perfect player to have with guys like Kyrie and KD albeit no guarantee we get those guys

LOL. That deal would actually lose us a max space. Both Ball and Fultz are making a lot more than Frank or DSj next year.