Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3

[denmuscles]

Less than 47 hours left until the trade deadline and not much action. Probably be a trade dudline.

You are annoying my man. You have depeated at least 5 x that Lakers are getting AD at trade deadline.

What is wrong with you?

Stop

[The Corey's]

I don’t care what Davis said.

The Pelicans are holding out for Tatum and we’re gonna comply. Rightfully so

You dont care that a walking injury doesnt want to be here?

You'll feel good when he leaves for the lakers anyway?

Nope

Its literally madness to say that we have to drain our prospects and will willingly comply while also saying that you wouldnt be ok with it if dagis walks.

To ignore that possibility is career suicide. Like letting durant leave for nothing KNOWN for years he was out.

And yet you're so aggressively happy to give the pels whatever they want instead of negotiating.

[celticfan42487]

He wont. Let's wager.

How about instead of a wager that will never be consummated you just sig quote yourself today the date it happened and then we'll see it now and all summer until a conclusion one way or another.

That's really the much smarter approach for people to take here instead of saying 'I was always this or that and I was willing to bet money on it' when no one else is going ot remember you. Just sig quote yourself and link to this page on this thread in it.



That said Porzings or whatever the Unicorn only wants to play for the top markets in the league too.

I think it's a good bet by Ainge here to still trade for Davis, if EVERY player wants to play for the 2 NY teams and the 4 CA teams (assuming Kings are one of them they want to play for)... there's only so many max roster spots on those teams.

Let's wait this out, trade for Davis and lets see if when it comes time for Davis to leave if we can somehow manage Irving to resign even for a 1+1 deal (which I'm guessing is what he'll demand in the off season with Davis on the roster becuase he's not locking himself in any situation)... then it may come down to... resign in Boston potentially with Irving or sign with a potentially lesser roster for the Nets or some ****.

Lots can change in a season, and if you're not playing to get an MVP level talent on your team you're not playing to win so **** it. We''ll rise or burn quickly or both.

Why am I changing my sig now for something I already feel strongly about.

You have no sig right now, but okay.

Just letting you know no one will wager with you because no one ever does. That sounds like 5th grade **** of "lets fight at recess" . It's a meaningless statement.

But if you feel that strongly about it and want to brag later when it happens that would be the right way to go about it. Keep it on your sig as your stance with a direct link to your statement in this thread so you too can start a "Smart hattteerrrsss" styled thread later on too and no one can say you didn't feel that way since it was an opinion you repeated everytime you posted by having it as your sig.

[sully00]

It at least on the surface seems the Pels don’t value Ball, Kuzma, Ingram all that much. I think it is the right move to wait until the offseason. Aside from the Cs other teams will have more flexibility as well to put together an offer.

Lakers are saying they won’t put that offer back on the table but I am sure they would.

The problem is that the young players no matter how you value them have diminished control. Even things go perfectly for the Pelicans they are looking at a 2 to 3 years to get back on track. These guys are going to need extensions off of stat padding on a bad team by then. You never get to that point where you have this young core that is ready to win and the max space to sign a couple of FA's to move the process forward.

The Celtics can give the Pelicans 5 1st round picks all delivered in the next 3 years. Everyone else will be in agony about giving up two.

[Celts17Pride]

Less than 47 hours left until the trade deadline and not much action. Probably be a trade dudline.

You are annoying my man. You have depeated at least 5 x that Lakers are getting AD at trade deadline.

What is wrong with you?

Stop

It's a prediction! I know nothing just like you and every other person in this forum. Go somewhere and chill out. By the way, I still think the Lakers get AD.

[ConstableGeneva]

Read on Twitter

Ainge/Zarren/Wyc calling Demps/Benson is cool.
Ainge/Kyrie contacting Rich Paul/AD is not. Gotcha.

LOL if you think these rules are being followed.

[Banks2Pierce]

Less than 47 hours left until the trade deadline and not much action. Probably be a trade dudline.

You are annoying my man. You have depeated at least 5 x that Lakers are getting AD at trade deadline.

What is wrong with you?

Stop

Looks like it's going the way of predicting over and over that Bradley would be kept over Smart and the Celtics won't re-sign Smart predictions.

[The Corey's]

How about instead of a wager that will never be consummated you just sig quote yourself today the date it happened and then we'll see it now and all summer until a conclusion one way or another.

That's really the much smarter approach for people to take here instead of saying 'I was always this or that and I was willing to bet money on it' when no one else is going ot remember you. Just sig quote yourself and link to this page on this thread in it.



That said Porzings or whatever the Unicorn only wants to play for the top markets in the league too.

I think it's a good bet by Ainge here to still trade for Davis, if EVERY player wants to play for the 2 NY teams and the 4 CA teams (assuming Kings are one of them they want to play for)... there's only so many max roster spots on those teams.

Let's wait this out, trade for Davis and lets see if when it comes time for Davis to leave if we can somehow manage Irving to resign even for a 1+1 deal (which I'm guessing is what he'll demand in the off season with Davis on the roster becuase he's not locking himself in any situation)... then it may come down to... resign in Boston potentially with Irving or sign with a potentially lesser roster for the Nets or some ****.

Lots can change in a season, and if you're not playing to get an MVP level talent on your team you're not playing to win so **** it. We''ll rise or burn quickly or both.

Why am I changing my sig now for something I already feel strongly about.

You have no sig right now, but okay.

Just letting you know no one will wager with you because no one ever does. That sounds like 5th grade **** of "lets fight at recess" . It's a meaningless statement.

But if you feel that strongly about it and want to brag later when it happens that would be the right way to go about it. Keep it on your sig as your stance with a direct link to your statement in this thread so you too can start a "Smart hattteerrrsss" styled thread later on too and no one can say you didn't feel that way since it was an opinion you repeated everytime you posted by having it as your sig.

Right and what do I need to put in my sig that I am not making clear now in this thread? If I ask wrong and Danny does what I'm saying he wont the purpose of such thing would to be to embarrass me and talk about how little I know about the business and blah blah. I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong again. Everything will be fine.

[Celts17Pride]

Less than 47 hours left until the trade deadline and not much action. Probably be a trade dudline.

You are annoying my man. You have depeated at least 5 x that Lakers are getting AD at trade deadline.

What is wrong with you?

Stop

Looks like it's going the way of predicting over and over that Bradley would be kept over Smart and the Celtics won't re-sign Smart predictions.

1 out of 3 ain't bad.

[The Corey's]

KG said Davis should goto LA.

And yet were here talking about how we should just trade for him and use KG as the template. Sweet.

[denmuscles]

Less than 47 hours left until the trade deadline and not much action. Probably be a trade dudline.

You are annoying my man. You have depeated at least 5 x that Lakers are getting AD at trade deadline.

What is wrong with you?

Stop

It's a prediction! I know nothing just like you and every other person in this forum. Go somewhere and chill out. By the way, I still think the Lakers get AD.

Dude you said 5 times at least your prediction. Anyone that reads Celtics forum probably saw you say that many many times. At this point I am FU Lakers, FU Anthony Davis. This league is a joke.

[Homerclease]

You dont care that a walking injury doesnt want to be here?

You'll feel good when he leaves for the lakers anyway?

Nope

Its literally madness to say that we have to drain our prospects and will willingly comply while also saying that you wouldnt be ok with it if dagis walks.

To ignore that possibility is career suicide. Like letting durant leave for nothing KNOWN for years he was out.

And yet you're so aggressively happy to give the pels whatever they want instead of negotiating.

Of course they will negotiate.

In the end we trade Tatum to get a top 5 player in this league at age 25.

This is not Cousins, George, Butler or even Kyrie. We’re talking an entirely different tier of player here. A once in a lifetime opportunity.

AD and Greek Freak are gonnna be running this league in about 2 years. The time to pounce is right now

[Jaqua92]

Yah, Boston guys on a few podcasts have said vets just dont like Jaylen. He’s moody, entitled and still never in the right place on the floor [including the 3 to end the game vs GS]. If Kyrie stays, he’s def gone

I haven't heard that at all. Links?

Windy and Jackie Mac had it, highlighting Kyrie’s fights with the young players but then saying hes great friends with Tatum. Then mentioned its he and Jaylen/Rozier that butt heads.

As we've been saying, those two guys are the problems

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[Homerclease]

KG said Davis should goto LA.

And yet were here talking about how we should just trade for him and use KG as the template. Sweet.

Don’t care what KG says either

[CavemanDoctor]

Why are so many of yall angry in here?

We have a strong shot at a generational talent. Instead of being thankful your GM is who he is, you're whining.

Smart fans of any other franchise would kill to be in this position. Be appreciative.

[TommyPoints]

KG said Davis should goto LA.

And yet were here talking about how we should just trade for him and use KG as the template. Sweet.

He can’t just “go to LA” unless he waits until Lebron starts collecting social security.

[The Corey's]

Nope

Its literally madness to say that we have to drain our prospects and will willingly comply while also saying that you wouldnt be ok with it if dagis walks.

To ignore that possibility is career suicide. Like letting durant leave for nothing KNOWN for years he was out.

And yet you're so aggressively happy to give the pels whatever they want instead of negotiating.

Of course they will negotiate.

In the end we trade Tatum to get a top 5 player in this league at age 25.

This is not Cousins, George, Butler or even Kyrie. We’re talking an entirely different tier of player here. A once in a lifetime opportunity.

AD and Greek Freak are gonnna be running this league in about 2 years. The time to pounce is right now

And Davis wants to go to the lakers and Danny wont trade him without an extension.

And since he wont. Danny wont and it's all settled. It's pretty simple. Danny isnt giving everything away and hope he can sign him.

[denmuscles]

Nope

Its literally madness to say that we have to drain our prospects and will willingly comply while also saying that you wouldnt be ok with it if dagis walks.

To ignore that possibility is career suicide. Like letting durant leave for nothing KNOWN for years he was out.

And yet you're so aggressively happy to give the pels whatever they want instead of negotiating.

Of course they will negotiate.

In the end we trade Tatum to get a top 5 player in this league at age 25.

This is not Cousins, George, Butler or even Kyrie. We’re talking an entirely different tier of player here. A once in a lifetime opportunity.

AD and Greek Freak are gonnna be running this league in about 2 years. The time to pounce is right now

Have you forgotten about Jokic maybe or Embiid or even Zion who could be next SHAQ ?

[celticfan42487]

It at least on the surface seems the Pels don’t value Ball, Kuzma, Ingram all that much. I think it is the right move to wait until the offseason. Aside from the Cs other teams will have more flexibility as well to put together an offer.

Lakers are saying they won’t put that offer back on the table but I am sure they would.

The problem is that the young players no matter how you value them have diminished control. Even things go perfectly for the Pelicans they are looking at a 2 to 3 years to get back on track. These guys are going to need extensions off of stat padding on a bad team by then. You never get to that point where you have this young core that is ready to win and the max space to sign a couple of FA's to move the process forward.

The Celtics can give the Pelicans 5 1st round picks all delivered in the next 3 years. Everyone else will be in agony about giving up two.

Agreed fully.

While I don't think the Celtics can beat a Ball, Kuz, Ingram, Hart offer without using Tatum.

Where we have an advantage is the picks. Even examing them, all the picks the Lakers will give in a trade this year are low quality first rounders.

A post AD trade first from LA this year is one that is them in the playoffs, maybe as high as the 4th seed. That's pretty much the same as our own First rounder.

Then any future first are equal to a first from BOS at worst.

So they offered what 2-3 firsts?

We can match that value with 2-3 of our own. IF NO waits LA pick becomes more valuable and gets to the value level of our Kings pick.

But we still have the edge with the MEM pick so.

Value wise

top 10 MEM pick from us
If NO waits till off season, LA 19 = SA 19 first rounder
Future LA picks = Future BOS picks.

The difference between that top 10 MEM pick vs a normal LA/BOS future first rounder gives us an edge.

I'd still struggle to pick

Tatum, Brown, Smart, Semi, SAC 19, MEM 19 (maybe here this matters), BOS 19, BOS 21

Ball, Kuz, Ingram, Hart, LAL 19, 21, 23


Those are pretty close in value.

Tatum > Kuz
Brown = Ball
Kuz > or = Smart
Hart >> Semi
Sac 19 = LAL 19
MEM 19 >> LAL pick
Bos picks = future LAL picks.
BOS extra first offer > nothing

That almost entirely comes down to your valuation of the players. I go with BOS's offer in the end. But those are close offers. And I'm not certain Ainge wants to throw the entire future away on the bets that Irving and AD will play ball with him.

[Jaqua92]

Yah, Boston guys on a few podcasts have said vets just dont like Jaylen. He’s moody, entitled and still never in the right place on the floor [including the 3 to end the game vs GS]. If Kyrie stays, he’s def gone

It’s true but it went further than that. Look he’s young and honestly he’s had an extremely tough year with Bird and his mother, I know a lot of that has been reported on and there’s no point going back down that path.

But it’s been very hard for him.

He's been balling off the bench though. What's he averaging like 17ppg in the last 5 or 6?

Winning fixes a lot of these things.

Success certainly does not fix those things if the issues are interpersonal, which sounds like they are. If the issue is worth the relationship, winning basketball games won't fix that

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