Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer?

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Will Pelicans regret not taking Lakers offer?

No. Boston offers Tatum/Brown/Picks+
124
24%
No. Lakers will still offer the same
114
22%
No. NY/LAC will pony up
97
18%
Yes. Boston will underbid
108
21%
Yes. Lakers might seek other options
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5%
Yes. Lakers will reduce the offer
56
11%
 
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#61 » by 13th Man » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:50 pm

Shoe wrote:Demps understands one Tatum for the next 6 years is better than the combination of Lakers young players, quality over quantity.


Do you seriously believe that one Tatum is worth more than Ball, Ingram, Kuzma and Rondo?
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#62 » by Gooner » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:52 pm

Shoe wrote:Demps understands one Tatum for the next 6 years is better than the combination of Lakers young players, quality over quantity.


I like Tatum, but i don't understand why everyone views him as such a superior player to Ingram and Kuzma.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#63 » by 13th Man » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:55 pm

Kordic27 wrote:Ainge will offer Tatum, which is the biggest prize. Ainge has to, or his rep will be totally shot.


What rep? The rep of being a Scrooge and fleecing over GMs? Ainge isn't about to offer up anything close to what the Lakers have put on the table for a 1 year rental. Demps is being played here by all sides.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#64 » by Jon1798 » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:57 pm

vxmike wrote:
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Did you realize the Kings are above the Lakers in th standing right now?


You realize the Lakers would be acquiring Anthony Davis?


His team is 13th right now despite having decent talent. There’s no evidence he would propel the Lakers upwards given that they would lose a ton of non-center depth. Any games he or LBJ missed would likely be a loss


He hasn’t been playing for his team. Just see what he did last year for his team though when he did play. There is plenty of evidence of how good AD is. And that Lebron James guy should help them a bit moving forward too.

Regardless, the point is the Celtics second best pick is at worst as good as the Lakers best pick.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#65 » by leolozon » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:58 pm

None of what the Lakers offered has a decent chance of being a top 2 guy on a championship team. Those picks probably won't be good. Ingram, Lonzo and Kuzma are more likely to be 4-8 on a championship team. So what's the point?

It's a shame Russell isn't there anymore. :lol: But I guesss the couldn't get Lebron without that trade, right?
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#66 » by cuyankees » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:58 pm

NOP will never regret turning down an offer that is 5/6 FRPs in value + BI, Zub, Hart when KP just got 5 + DSJ.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#67 » by Satch » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:58 pm

How about a simple yes and no option
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Post#68 » by KnickFan33 » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:00 pm

cuyankees wrote:NOP will never regret turning down an offer that is 5/6 FRPs in value + BI, Zub, Hart when KP just got 5 + DSJ.


Did new details come out that I'm unaware of? That's awesome if true.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#69 » by Optms » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:01 pm

Edug27 wrote:...Danny has been waiting and prepping for this moment for years now. AD has always been his target. If you acquire AD, I think that retains Kyrie (afterall they are "like brothers")... and with Kyrie, plus Brad and winning, that should convince AD to stick around. KG didn't want Boston at first, until Danny addressed his concerns. We traded for Kyrie with 2 years left on his deal, giving up an unprotected Nets pick. Obviously not the same level of risk, but risk nonetheless.

All we know so far is that AD and his dad question Bostons loyalty and therefore do not prefer Boston... Nothing about location or winning.. The concern is loyalty. That can be fixed. That's not like being traded to a small market that has no chance of winning. A simple convo with AD can clear up some of that.

But yes, of course, keeping Kyrie is key here. I'm sure if this trickles into the summer... Kyrie and Danny (and AD) will all have a nice long talk over some Chipotle.


And it could still go down like that.

But I think Ainge low-balling Demps will happen (Whether we hear about it or not) and possibly get him to listen. Just think, the Pels front office is so salty over the Lakers/Lebron/Rich Paul fiasco that them (New Orleans) even acknowledging the Lakers offers with no intention of trading AD shows that mentally they're a feeble organization. Easily manipulated and swayed. A simple no return of phone call would have suffice but they actually came off like a scorn bitter ex in this.

Ainge is in the drivers seat. The only way Ainge entertains offering Tatum is if like you suggested number 1. Kyrie re-signs and 2. Demps displays clear signs that he's over the Lakers situation.

Knicks are a real threat in this of course but only if they manage to win the lottery,
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#70 » by MGB8 » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:03 pm

I'm in the "yes" camp. Never good to let spite, even justified spite, control your decision making.

We all know what kind of trades Danny Ainge makes. Pelicans aren't going to get the haul that they are looking for, and should have taken the Lakers' last offer, moved Ball to Phoenix for Jackson.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#71 » by Joshyjess » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:03 pm

I think the only regretting going on is LA regretting they added Lebron and his cronies to their team. To me, adding lebron (especially an older lebron) to your team is like a young kid deciding to smoke. He thinks he will look so cool, but before long, he realizes that he is sucking a poisonous element into his body.
NO will get better offers. If AD won't commit long term, and Danny doesn't offer up all that NO wants, other teams will quickly step in and still put together a package much better than what LA offered.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#72 » by Jon1798 » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:04 pm

Gooner wrote:
Shoe wrote:Demps understands one Tatum for the next 6 years is better than the combination of Lakers young players, quality over quantity.


I like Tatum, but i don't understand why everyone views him as such a superior player to Ingram and Kuzma.


Kuzma’s defense makes him essentially a bench player on a good team. And Ingram is more of a point forward that isn’t quite good enough to have the offense run through him. I also don’t like that Ingram will be off his rookie deal soon.

Tatum is a more complete player at a very valuable position.

No one who is being serious means to say Kuzma and Ingram don’t have value. I just think they are limited player that would have limited impact on putting together a really good team. Where as Tatum is a great compliment next to Jrue and a no doubt front line starter.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#73 » by mtron929 » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:07 pm

If the Celtics don't offer Tatum, a lot of the teams will beat the Celtics package. If Ainge wants Anthony Davis, he has to put Tatum in the deal. Hell, the Knicks with a top 3-5 pick can probably beat a non-Tatum based package.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#74 » by Gooner » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:07 pm

Jon1798 wrote:
Gooner wrote:
Shoe wrote:Demps understands one Tatum for the next 6 years is better than the combination of Lakers young players, quality over quantity.


I like Tatum, but i don't understand why everyone views him as such a superior player to Ingram and Kuzma.


Kuzma’s defense makes him essentially a bench player on a good team. And Ingram is more of a point forward that isn’t quite good enough to have the offense run through him. I also don’t like that Ingram will be off his rookie deal soon.

Tatum is a more complete player at a very valuable position.

No one who is being serious means to say Kuzma and Ingram don’t have value. I just think they are limited player that would have limited impact on putting together a really good team. Where as Tatum is a great compliment next to Jrue and a no doubt front line starter.


I just think Kuzma is too good of a scorer, not to be a starter. I think he can be a Tobias Harris level player. Ingram is 21, and is already scoring 17 per game, and he can pass and defend. Those two are valuable pieces. Maybe not as good as Tatum, but pretty close i'd say.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#75 » by cuyankees » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:08 pm

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cuyankees wrote:NOP will never regret turning down an offer that is 5/6 FRPs in value + BI, Zub, Hart when KP just got 5 + DSJ.


Did new details come out that I'm unaware of? That's awesome if true.

Yes, that part where it says "in value". If you're curious, ask some of these armchair analysts around here to help w how anyone can come up w those value calculations.

LAL low balled/don't have the assets to get a reasonable deal done.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#76 » by Forbes » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:09 pm

I doubt they regret it.

The Lakers 3 young players will not become game changers or we would be able to tell already and the draft picks don’t look like they would become anything worth while.

Plus if they really wanted they can just do it again in the offseason.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#77 » by JayMKE » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:10 pm

Not unless one those Laker players become an All-NBA caliber player, I'm not seeing it.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#78 » by Durant Durant » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:12 pm

No. many years from now Demps & Co will remember this week and smile to themselves.

the week when they stood up to the 'King'.

I may be speaking too early though lol.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#79 » by frothbrain » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:13 pm

lakers can offer a higher lottery pick this summer than if they were to trade for davis today.
pels should definitely wait.
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Re: Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer? 

Post#80 » by statsman » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:14 pm

Bill Bradley wrote:All of the “nos”

Thank you. I was looking for that answer in the poll.

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