Season Speculation, Free Agency & Trade Ideas: Our Johnson is finally working

BobbieL · Post #1561 » by **BobbieL** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 3:55 pm

Crives wrote:Remember to ask yourself why all these Sarver hit pieces are coming out now, he has been the same owner for 15 years.

Most of that article is rediclous. Leaving a goat in your gms office is pretty funny.

NBA wants him to sell ?

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1562 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 4:02 pm

My take on owners is they have every right to have final say on big decisions that's normal operating procedure in sports but this crap about yelling at players and coaches during or after games is completely and utterly wrong. If he's still doing this he needs to stop immediately and never do that again; it's really that simple.

As far as Jones deferring to Bukstein for things I don't have a problem with that. He's the co-GM so if Jones is letting him do the things he's supposed to do that's actually the example I want set for Sarver. Let people do the job they were hired to do.

Calvin Klein · Post #1563 » by **Calvin Klein** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 4:05 pm

Nothing about that article surprised me. We are doomed until he sells.

BobbieL · Post #1564 » by **BobbieL** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 4:06 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:My take on owners is they have every right to have final say on big decisions that's normal operating procedure in sports but this crap about yelling at players and coaches during or after games is completely and utterly wrong. If he's still doing this he needs to stop immediately and never do that again; it's really that simple.

As far as Jones deferring to Bukstein for things I don't have a problem with that. He's the co-GM so if Jones is letting him do the things he's supposed to do that's actually the example I want set for Sarver. Let people do the job they were hired to do.

I would do the job but Sarver really needs somebody on his staff (not the GM or coaches) and be able to b**ch about stuff too and let the people like Buck and Jones do their job. And hopefully a true VP of Basketball Ops over Jones and Buck

Sarver - just hire me, yell at me, tell me your ideas - I will let you vent and all will be good

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1565 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 4:08 pm

Crives wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Crives wrote:

I think it’s critical that our next pg compliments Booker with strong perimeter defense.

From what I’ve seen Ja is not a strong defender. He looks like he would be great 6th man spark off the bench, but we need to prioritize our assets to get starting pg/pf first if possible.

Did scouts mention anything about Ja’s defensive potential in a few years?
You should be rooting for Melton to develop if you want a defender next to Booker. Probably won't see a guy with more defensive upside this draft.

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Melton save us!

We can only hope

I'm honestly really high on him. His defensive instincts at his age are a VERY rare and encouraging sign. To me his floor is nice defensive bench guard but if he develops his shot and playmaking then you could really have something.

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Crives · Post #1566 » by **Crives** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 4:14 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Crives wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:You should be rooting for Melton to develop if you want a defender next to Booker. Probably won't see a guy with more defensive upside this draft.

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Melton save us!
We can only hope

I'm honestly really high on him. His defensive instincts at his age are a VERY rare and encouraging sign. To me his floor is nice defensive bench guard but if he develops his shot and playmaking then you could really have something.

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It’s too bad we don’t have that restricted tag on him. He is my favorite player in nba 2k, he must have the highest steal rating ever for a rookie.

Do we have to wait until summer of 2020 to extend him?

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1567 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 4:18 pm

Crives wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Crives wrote:
Melton save us!
We can only hope

I'm honestly really high on him. His defensive instincts at his age are a VERY rare and encouraging sign. To me his floor is nice defensive bench guard but if he develops his shot and playmaking then you could really have something.

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It’s too bad we don’t have that restricted tag on him. He is my favorite player in nba 2k, he must have the highest steal rating ever for a rookie.

Do we have to wait until summer of 2020 to extend him?

It's too bad they weren't under the cap when they signed him and could have done the 4 year deal like they did with Okobo.

Hell be a restricted FA the summer of 2020 with areanas rule. Just like van vleet was last summer. So if they want to keep him they can but if he takes a leap next year he could get a nice offer sheet.

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Saberestar · Post #1568 » by **Saberestar** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 4:29 pm

Read on Twitter

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1569 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 4:34 pm

Saberestar wrote:

Read on Twitter

While i don't have as much hatred for scary Terry as some people I hope they go in another direction. I like his competitive spirit but he just doesn't put the ball in the basket with good efficiency.

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BobbieL · Post #1570 » by **BobbieL** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 4:40 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Saberestar wrote:

Read on Twitter
While i don't have as much hatred for scary Terry as some people I hope they go in another direction. I like his competitive spirit but he just doesn't put the ball in the basket with good efficiency.

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If they sign a guy like Rozier - they will have to surround him with more shooters. Many many shooters.
I am starting to warm up more to BWG's guy - Collison because of his FGA percentage. I know he is over 30 but shouldn't break the bank and would bring stability and presence to the position.

RedIndian · Post #1571 » by **RedIndian** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 4:41 pm

Rozier seems to still be shooting decently from the three, but boy his 2 point % has remained consistently awful throughout his career. Must really struggle finishing at the rim. Given Jackson's absolute ineptness in finishing at the rim, I'm not keen on adding another guy who has the same issues.

Also, he isn't a playmaker at all. So basically, his profile is that of a 3 and D guard.

That fits the profile of the kind we'd want next to Booker, but Rozier just strikes you as a low IQ guy who'd immediately become a chucker here. I'd avoid. Would much rather try for Brogdon or Lonzo if we can't land Jrue.

Crives · Post #1572 » by **Crives** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 4:47 pm

Saberestar wrote:

Read on Twitter

Meh... hopefully this is the backups backup plan. Can’t exactly advertise your plan a and b if it is picking up a player in a trade. ( unless your a jerk like LeBron/Klutch)

Crives · Post #1573 » by **Crives** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 4:49 pm

Crives wrote:
Saberestar wrote:

Read on Twitter

Meh... hopefully this is the backups backup plan. Can’t exactly advertise your plan a and b if it is picking up a player in a trade. ( unless your a jerk like LeBron/Klutch)

Could also just be terry’s camp talking up suitors to get an extension as well

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1574 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 4:54 pm

Could just be that the suns tried to trade for him before the season so there's an assumption they will try again this summer. But things can change as other options become available.

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Saberestar · Post #1575 » by **Saberestar** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 4:55 pm

Read on Twitter

BobbieL · Post #1576 » by **BobbieL** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 5:01 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Could just be that the suns tried to trade for him before the season so there's an assumption they will try again this summer. But things can change as other options become available.

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Sidery thinks north of 15m

Gambo likes the idea of Rozier

based on those opinions - Rozier to Phoenix is not happening

Revived · Post #1577 » by **Revived** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 5:08 pm

Rozier is the Josh Jackson version of a PG besides being even worse defensively.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1578 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 5:32 pm

BobbieL wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Could just be that the suns tried to trade for him before the season so there's an assumption they will try again this summer. But things can change as other options become available.

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Sidery thinks north of 15m

Gambo likes the idea of Rozier

based on those opinions - Rozier to Phoenix is not happening

Maybe I'm just underestimating the market but I feel the same way I do with Rozier as I do with Oubre when I have to ask 'who the **** is going give them $15M per year?" I feel like both guys will probably be lucky to get $10M per. Julius Randle who is better than them signed for like 10M last summer.

The one positive I will say about Terry is I have no doubt he'd come and play his ass off. Dude is one of those chip on his shoulder guys. But that can be scary too if he has irrational confidence and tries to take over games.

Post #1579 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 5:40 pm

Saberestar wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
So upon reflection, Would he still be considered a bad pick for us in the lottery, Or more likely, Yet another example of our front offices lack of ability to develop talent properly???

I'm curious as to the percentage of former players that we have given up on, etc. Only to go on and perform better for other teams?
He's really the only mcd pick not on the suns and doing anything. But was actually kind of good last year just didn't shoot 3s like he is now.

You can really view his time with Chandler either way. Either he's a better player now because he got stuck behind him or he never got to really show how he was because of it...

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He was a bad pick. NBA players are responsible for their success. Alex Len had a ton of opportunities and coaches/help here.

It was just a game. He is the same player that he was for us during five years, the only difference is that he has added a decent 3p shot ...like so many bigs in the current NBA.

He was for us a solid backup C and he is for the Hawks a solid backup C.

But we were expecting more out of him being selected with the #5 pick in the draft. It is a shame that he is not talented enough and he does not have the basketball IQ and hands to be a good C in the NBA.

10.2 points, 5.5 rebounds per game in around 20 minutes per game on a losing team. I am not impressed.

I always thought he was worth re-signing for something like he signed for. I'm fairly happy with Holmes but Len was pretty efficient his last year. The ever evolving coaches obviously didn't help him (or anyone else for that matter).

Wilber85 · Post #1580 » by **Wilber85** » Mon Mar 4, 2019 5:42 pm

Rozier is a scrub. Guy is trash, and shouldn't be a starter in the league.

Low IQ and won't do anything but put us back more! If we don't get Zion, let's role with Ja Morant, and try to trade for a PF