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Post#1321 » by IceManBK1 » Wed Mar 6, 2019 10:58 pm

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Russell is a stud. I don't really think it has been made more clear.


Dlo's job would be a lot easier if we had big who can bring the ball up the court and make plays in the post. He can just cut to the basket/get freed from off ball screens and catch and shoot. Cough* cough* some one like Randle.
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Post#1323 » by NetsJets » Thu Mar 7, 2019 3:14 pm

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Russell doesn't need to score 50 points in a game to win MIP imo. He needs to continue to play hard, display leadership, take good shots and continue to find the balance between scoring in bunches and making plays for his bigs and shooters.

Yeah I know that I see both sides of the argument but it definitely wouldn’t hurt his case either.


Give me 16pts /11asts/1TO from Russell in a Nets 20 point victory over 50pts/5TOs in a 5 point win.

Lol both can true at the same time.
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I don't want to excuse Magic but can we be absolutely sure that Russell's emergence would have happened on the Lakers (if he had stayed) or on any other team?

Yes, Russell did take a zen-like approach as soon as he was traded, but Kenny and his staff are also pretty forceful in making sure that you do things in the manner they want or you're not going to play. If it wasn't for the coaching staff and the performance team who knows whether he takes the next step that he seems to have taken.
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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1325 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Mar 7, 2019 6:38 pm

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I don't want to excuse Magic but can we be absolutely sure that Russell's emergence would have happened on the Lakers (if he had stayed) or on any other team?

Yes, Russell did take a zen-like approach as soon as he was traded, but Kenny and his staff are also pretty forceful in making sure that you do things in the manner they want or you're not going to play. If it wasn't for the coaching staff and the performance team who knows whether he takes the next step that he seems to have taken.


The Lakers not having the structure in place to guide Russell is a 100% failure on their part.

Kudos to the Nets front office for recognizing what Russell could be, kudos to the coaching staff/training team for providing the necessary structure, kudos to the veterans on this team for helping to guide and push him, and kudos to Russell for maturing, embracing his new situation with an open mind, and being humble enough to be coached.
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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1326 » by NyCeEvO » Thu Mar 7, 2019 7:08 pm

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I don't want to excuse Magic but can we be absolutely sure that Russell's emergence would have happened on the Lakers (if he had stayed) or on any other team?

Yes, Russell did take a zen-like approach as soon as he was traded, but Kenny and his staff are also pretty forceful in making sure that you do things in the manner they want or you're not going to play. If it wasn't for the coaching staff and the performance team who knows whether he takes the next step that he seems to have taken.


The Lakers not having the structure in place to guide Russell is a 100% failure on their part.

Kudos to the Nets front office for recognizing what Russell could be, kudos to the coaching staff/training team for providing the necessary structure, kudos to the veterans on this team for helping to guide and push him, and kudos to Russell for maturing, embracing his new situation with an open mind, and being humble enough to be coached.

My point more has to do with the Nets being the perfect situation for him rather than the Lakers not being the right place. I think there are more franchises and teams with structures similar to the Lakers in terms of player development and support than those similar to the Nets.

In short, I don't know if we see the same improvement from him if he'd gone to the Suns, Pistons, or Magic.

D'Angelo's approach as been as close to perfect since being traded here, but I think the Nets are one of the few teams who have the right people in place and the right system to allow DLo to thrive.
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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1327 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Mar 7, 2019 7:21 pm

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NyCeEvO wrote:I don't want to excuse Magic but can we be absolutely sure that Russell's emergence would have happened on the Lakers (if he had stayed) or on any other team?

Yes, Russell did take a zen-like approach as soon as he was traded, but Kenny and his staff are also pretty forceful in making sure that you do things in the manner they want or you're not going to play. If it wasn't for the coaching staff and the performance team who knows whether he takes the next step that he seems to have taken.


The Lakers not having the structure in place to guide Russell is a 100% failure on their part.

Kudos to the Nets front office for recognizing what Russell could be, kudos to the coaching staff/training team for providing the necessary structure, kudos to the veterans on this team for helping to guide and push him, and kudos to Russell for maturing, embracing his new situation with an open mind, and being humble enough to be coached.

My point more has to do with the Nets being the perfect situation for him rather than the Lakers not being the right place. I think there are more franchises and teams with structures similar to the Lakers in terms of player development and support than those similar to the Nets.

In short, I don't know if we see the same improvement from him if he'd gone to the Suns, Pistons, or Magic.

D'Angelo's approach as been as close to perfect since being traded here, but I think the Nets are one of the few teams who have the right people in place and the right system to allow DLo to thrive.


Well, that's why those teams are middling around while the Nets are quickly rising in stature, and this is WITHOUT the benefit of top 10 draft picks. So I agree, I don't think they would be able to develop Russell like we have. Look at how this team currently has been assembled and the development that went into it. I don't think teams who are as dysfunctional as Phoenix would ever be able to do it.
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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1329 » by IceManBK1 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:58 am

we beat atlanta. But IMO russell was playing kinda casual. Trey Young outplayed him. I credit prince's defense for shutting down dlo. dlo needs to get better at scoring against physical athletic defenders. He needs more practice.
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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1330 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:13 am

Russell hit the shot that won the game for us. That's all that matters, all that other stuff is irrelevant.
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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1331 » by IceManBK1 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:22 am

MrDollarBills wrote:Russell hit the shot that won the game for us. That's all that matters, all that other stuff is irrelevant.


I think he's hesitating and worried about the defense too much and causing a delay in his shot. he just needs to focus on making the shot and shoot with confidence. he should be easily scoring/drawing a foul when he post up against trey young. he needs to rediscover that postup game. could be useful in the playoffs. instead of shooting so many 3s, mix up your shots more. just cuz you're open from 3, don't mean you gotta take a 3. take a couple of dribbles inside the 3 pt line for a higher % shot.
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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1332 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:24 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:Russell hit the shot that won the game for us. That's all that matters, all that other stuff is irrelevant.


I think he's hesitating and worried about the defense too much and causing a delay in his shot. he just needs to focus on making the shot and shoot with confidence. he should be easily scoring/drawing a foul when he post up against trey young. he needs to rediscover that postup game. could be useful in the playoffs. instead of shooting so many 3s, mix up your shots more. just cuz you're open from 3, don't mean you gotta take a 3. take a couple of dribbles inside the 3 pt line for a higher % shot.


He is doing what the coaching staff wants him to do, take open threes. They don't want him shooting long twos.
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Post#1333 » by LKIRNets » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:51 am

IceManBK1 wrote:we beat atlanta. But IMO russell was playing kinda casual. Trey Young outplayed him. I credit prince's defense for shutting down dlo. dlo needs to get better at scoring against physical athletic defenders. He needs more practice.


Trae Young was 4 for 14. Russell denied him the majority of tonight. Russell made clutch plays, and clutch shots and clutch stops. Like dat close out on Prince and Huerter. :lol:
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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1334 » by IceManBK1 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:26 pm

I can see Dlo struggling to shoot the next few games Det, OKC, Jazz. Historically he shot bad vs those teams. Especially OKC he can't stay in front of Westbrook on defense. And he gets intimidated by Westbrook on offense. Westbrook can't shoot. You just have to do your best to stay in front of him to prevent him from attacking the rim. V.S Jazz He'll be timid to get into the paint against Gobert. And I think Donovan Mitchell will outplay him.
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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1335 » by NetsJets » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:11 pm

D Lo is what he is for now, it can be frustrating at times but you have to take the good with the bad..
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Post#1336 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:49 pm

Russell shot 46%fg/43%3pt for 17pts versus Westbrook the last time we played OKC.

This constant criticism of this team's best player is really off the rails. The dude has had a spectacular year and is one of the main reasons why we are even a playoff team right now.
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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1337 » by Prokorov » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:17 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:I can see Dlo struggling to shoot the next few games Det, OKC, Jazz. Historically he shot bad vs those teams. Especially OKC he can't stay in front of Westbrook on defense. And he gets intimidated by Westbrook on offense. Westbrook can't shoot. You just have to do your best to stay in front of him to prevent him from attacking the rim. V.S Jazz He'll be timid to get into the paint against Gobert. And I think Donovan Mitchell will outplay him.


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Post#1338 » by Prokorov » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:18 pm

NetsJets wrote:D Lo is what he is for now, it can be frustrating at times but you have to take the good with the bad..


what bad? the part were he has carried us to the playoffs while playing like an all-star?
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Post#1339 » by Prokorov » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:19 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Russell shot 46%fg/43%3pt for 17pts versus Westbrook the last time we played OKC.

This constant criticism of this team's best player is really off the rails. The dude has had a spectacular year and is one of the main reasons why we are even a playoff team right now.


iceman is a fake russell fan/troll. its been obvious since day 1.

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Re: The Official D'Angelo Russell Thread II 

Post#1340 » by NetsJets » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:44 pm

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NetsJets wrote:D Lo is what he is for now, it can be frustrating at times but you have to take the good with the bad..


what bad? the part were he has carried us to the playoffs while playing like an all-star?

The jacking up 3’s and settling for jumpers part. I’ve been one of his biggest supporters so this isn’t criticism of him.

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