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2018/2019 NBA draft talk: Who should be our target? (Poll)

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Who is the perfect fit?

RJ Barrett
32
33%
Ja Morant
14
14%
Zion Williamson
11
11%
Cameron Reddish
6
6%
Darius Garland
5
5%
Kevin Porter
9
9%
Romeo Langford
8
8%
Keldon Johnson
1
1%
Nassir Little
7
7%
Jarrett Culver
4
4%
 
Total votes: 97

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Post#541 » by pepe1991 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:28 pm

I just don't know what position Will Zion Play. He looks Like smaller Griffin
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Post#542 » by Skin » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:28 pm

T-Cat wrote:For the folks that wanted Ja Morant, here's another chance to grab another player who is equally talented and has that mentality like Westbrook that this team clearly lacks...competitve toughness!

He may not be on the big stage like Morant and Williamson due to his 5th year HS status, but he's equally impressive IMO!



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Post#543 » by NotACat » Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:11 pm

pepe1991 wrote:I just don't know what position Will Zion Play. He looks Like smaller Griffin

He can play both forward positions defensively. Offensively, he can play 3-5, with or without the ball.
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Post#544 » by pepe1991 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:26 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:I just don't know what position Will Zion Play. He looks Like smaller Griffin

He can play both forward positions defensively. Offensively, he can play 3-5, with or without the ball.


Not really sure that he can play SF in nba, his shooting from outside is easly worst part of his game.
He also isn't some advanced passer, despite ESPN trying to hype him up to be one, he actually has more TOs than assists.

As a C ,as rim protector his size will always be limiting factor.

Not saying he is bad prospect, he is clearly complete freak of nature from athletic POV but has some odd tools that make him unorthodox player.

That's why i said that maybe Morant goes first, it's simply easier to add great PG with advanced all around game, than build team around 6'7 center that needs ball in his hands and can't really shoot well.

Also he is what? 270 pounds? That's A LOT of weight for somebody who is 18. Can his body stay healthy? Can he control weight? Can he lose weight ? Will it make him more injury prone?
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Re: 2018/2019 NBA draft talk: Who should be our target? (Poll) 

Post#545 » by MoMM » Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:21 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
NotACat wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:I just don't know what position Will Zion Play. He looks Like smaller Griffin

He can play both forward positions defensively. Offensively, he can play 3-5, with or without the ball.


Not really sure that he can play SF in nba, his shooting from outside is easly worst part of his game.
He also isn't some advanced passer, despite ESPN trying to hype him up to be one, he actually has more TOs than assists.

As a C ,as rim protector his size will always be limiting factor.

Not saying he is bad prospect, he is clearly complete freak of nature from athletic POV but has some odd tools that make him unorthodox player.

That's why i said that maybe Morant goes first, it's simply easier to add great PG with advanced all around game, than build team around 6'7 center that needs ball in his hands and can't really shoot well.

Also he is what? 270 pounds? That's A LOT of weight for somebody who is 18. Can his body stay healthy? Can he control weight? Can he lose weight ? Will it make him more injury prone?

I'd say he will play at 4, his body is similar to Sir Charles'.
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Post#546 » by BadMofoPimp » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:18 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
NotACat wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:I just don't know what position Will Zion Play. He looks Like smaller Griffin

He can play both forward positions defensively. Offensively, he can play 3-5, with or without the ball.


Not really sure that he can play SF in nba, his shooting from outside is easly worst part of his game.
He also isn't some advanced passer, despite ESPN trying to hype him up to be one, he actually has more TOs than assists.

As a C ,as rim protector his size will always be limiting factor.

Not saying he is bad prospect, he is clearly complete freak of nature from athletic POV but has some odd tools that make him unorthodox player.

That's why i said that maybe Morant goes first, it's simply easier to add great PG with advanced all around game, than build team around 6'7 center that needs ball in his hands and can't really shoot well.

Also he is what? 270 pounds? That's A LOT of weight for somebody who is 18. Can his body stay healthy? Can he control weight? Can he lose weight ? Will it make him more injury prone?


Not sure how Zion will translate to the NBA. Players are bigger, faster and stronger in the NBA. And, Zion almost always shoots with the left hand on drives. Even then he drives to the right, he tries to shoot with the left. As a small PF, he may get blocked too often. If he can develop a legitimate 3 point shot to keep defenders honest, then he can have a path on drives. I think he will be good, but I am fairly certain, in my personal opinion, that Zion will not be a star talent not being able to drive then put up shots with his right hand and not that good of any shot that isn't a layup or dunk while being too short to be a power forward except in small ball lineups. I think Morant will end up the best talent from this draft.
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Re: 2018/2019 NBA draft talk: Who should be our target? (Poll) 

Post#547 » by SD2042 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:30 pm

MoMM wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
NotACat wrote:He can play both forward positions defensively. Offensively, he can play 3-5, with or without the ball.


Not really sure that he can play SF in nba, his shooting from outside is easly worst part of his game.
He also isn't some advanced passer, despite ESPN trying to hype him up to be one, he actually has more TOs than assists.

As a C ,as rim protector his size will always be limiting factor.

Not saying he is bad prospect, he is clearly complete freak of nature from athletic POV but has some odd tools that make him unorthodox player.

That's why i said that maybe Morant goes first, it's simply easier to add great PG with advanced all around game, than build team around 6'7 center that needs ball in his hands and can't really shoot well.

Also he is what? 270 pounds? That's A LOT of weight for somebody who is 18. Can his body stay healthy? Can he control weight? Can he lose weight ? Will it make him more injury prone?

I'd say he will play at 4, his body is similar to Sir Charles'.


It will be interesting to see how Zion will translate into the NBA narrative. Being 6'6 and playing like a PF will not be highly accepted too quickly. He will need to make adjustments to his perimeter game as much as tendency to bulldoze his way into the post. He finds himself among the trees long enough, he will find some trouble down low. My suggestion is to perhaps redefine his approach to the game to that of a SF. Cutback his weight, develop more fundamentals, cut down on his TOs, and develop his perimeter game. That said, I believe he's a terrific player who shows capabilities to be a force in the NBA.
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Post#548 » by NavalAviator94 » Mon Apr 1, 2019 3:17 am

SD2042 wrote:
MoMM wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Not really sure that he can play SF in nba, his shooting from outside is easly worst part of his game.
He also isn't some advanced passer, despite ESPN trying to hype him up to be one, he actually has more TOs than assists.

As a C ,as rim protector his size will always be limiting factor.

Not saying he is bad prospect, he is clearly complete freak of nature from athletic POV but has some odd tools that make him unorthodox player.

That's why i said that maybe Morant goes first, it's simply easier to add great PG with advanced all around game, than build team around 6'7 center that needs ball in his hands and can't really shoot well.

Also he is what? 270 pounds? That's A LOT of weight for somebody who is 18. Can his body stay healthy? Can he control weight? Can he lose weight ? Will it make him more injury prone?

I'd say he will play at 4, his body is similar to Sir Charles'.


It will be interesting to see how Zion will translate into the NBA narrative. Being 6'6 and playing like a PF will not be highly accepted too quickly. He will need to make adjustments to his perimeter game as much as tendency to bulldoze his way into the post. He finds himself among the trees long enough, he will find some trouble down low. My suggestion is to perhaps redefine his approach to the game to that of a SF. Cutback his weight, develop more fundamentals, cut down on his TOs, and develop his perimeter game. That said, I believe he's a terrific player who shows capabilities to be a force in the NBA.


This is probably where the team picking 2 is breathing a small sigh of relief.

Still, Zion is fascinating. Highest PER ever recorded coming out of college.


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Post#549 » by pepe1991 » Mon Apr 1, 2019 4:38 pm

There are some striking similarities between Berrett and Wiggins.... especially on defense and that shot selection.

I guess being super athletic makes guys lazy
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Post#550 » by zaymon » Mon Apr 1, 2019 5:42 pm

pepe1991 wrote:There are some striking similarities between Berrett and Wiggins.... especially on defense and that shot selection.

I guess being super athletic makes guys lazy

I guess Barrett has more edge to him, but he is a risky pick.
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Post#551 » by VFX » Wed Apr 3, 2019 7:35 pm

From a recent Bleacher Report article on Orlando and their draft needs.

The Magic rank dead last in free-throw rate—a failing that's dragging down an offense otherwise converting shots at or above league-average rates at the rim and from deep. With a defense that has been second-best in the league since Feb. 1, their needs are obvious. They must target shot-creators who put pressure on the defense and force opponents into disadvantageous positions. That's how you draw shooting fouls and, by extension, field a playoff-worthy offense.
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Post#552 » by Skin » Wed Apr 3, 2019 8:18 pm

MagicMatic wrote:From a recent Bleacher Report article on Orlando and their draft needs.

The Magic rank dead last in free-throw rate—a failing that's dragging down an offense otherwise converting shots at or above league-average rates at the rim and from deep. With a defense that has been second-best in the league since Feb. 1, their needs are obvious. They must target shot-creators who put pressure on the defense and force opponents into disadvantageous positions. That's how you draw shooting fouls and, by extension, field a playoff-worthy offense.

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Post#553 » by nymets1 » Thu Apr 4, 2019 3:30 am

I just saw on sportscenter that Giovany and I think the other ESPN NBA draft analyst is Schultz, They have Darius Garland #4 on their board and Jarrett Culver #5 with obviously Zion #1, Morant #2 and Barrett #3. So I guess that tells me if Garland or Culver is available at our pick that we should draft them.

Also what happens if Cam Reddish dropped down to our pick which I do think its possible cause he's gone downhill so there's concerns about him. I would pass on Reddish if he was available at our pick.
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Post#554 » by Skin » Thu Apr 4, 2019 5:07 am

nymets1 wrote:I just saw on sportscenter that Giovany and I think the other ESPN NBA draft analyst is Schultz, They have Darius Garland #4 on their board and Jarrett Culver #5 with obviously Zion #1, Morant #2 and Barrett #3. So I guess that tells me if Garland or Culver is available at our pick that we should draft them.

Also what happens if Cam Reddish dropped down to our pick which I do think its possible cause he's gone downhill so there's concerns about him. I would pass on Reddish if he was available at our pick.

Crazy sad how poorly Reddish played this season. I don't question the talent as much as the dog in him. Doesn't seem like he has a killer instinct.

I would take Chuma Okeke ahead of him. Feel in love with him during the tournament.
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Post#555 » by BadHombre » Thu Apr 4, 2019 5:51 am

I'm surprised Barrett leads this poll and not Ja.
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Post#556 » by BadHombre » Thu Apr 4, 2019 5:56 am

Pure fantasy question:

Say we miss the playoffs but somehow win the lottery. Do you:

a) take Zion and look to trade some of BIG for backcourt help.

b) trade down for a future pick and take Ja.

c) trade the pick for a bonafide star player (not sure who that would be)

?
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Post#557 » by drsd » Thu Apr 4, 2019 7:16 am

It is starting to look like the BPA types will be Romeo Langford / Sekou Doumbouya type of players. Wing depth on the bench is always valuable.
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Post#558 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu Apr 4, 2019 2:20 pm

BadHombre wrote:Pure fantasy question:

Say we miss the playoffs but somehow win the lottery. Do you:

a) take Zion and look to trade some of BIG for backcourt help.

b) trade down for a future pick and take Ja.

c) trade the pick for a bonafide star player (not sure who that would be)

?


Washington I'll give you 1 + Fournier for your 9th pick and Beal.. would have to Imagine they'd bite on that. Get out of a little $ with Beal salary, get younger and tons of Hype with Zion, Fournier can play and then you tank hard in 2019-2020 (which is what they should do)
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Post#559 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu Apr 4, 2019 2:23 pm

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-daily-60-pick-2019-nba-mock-draft-3-26-19/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss


Has us taking Nickil Alexander Walker.

Top 20 went

Knicks- Zion
Suns- Ja
Cavs- Barrett
Bulls- Keldon Johnson
Atlanta- Hachimura
Atlanta- White
Washington- Reddish
Memphis- Garland
NOLA- Hunter
Lakers- Culver
T'Wolves- Little
Hornets- Okpala
Magic- NAW
Celtics- Fernando
Heat- Langford
Nets- Hayes
Pistons- Okeke
Celtics- Porter
OKC- Clarke
Spurs- Nwora
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Post#560 » by MoMM » Thu Apr 4, 2019 2:26 pm

When is the draft lottery? After the playoffs end?

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