HeadtopChunes wrote:So let me get this right, you said Bol Bol would be a positive defender because of his elite block rate and DRTG, but when we look at a list of players that also meet those qualifications we see that there is no correlation between that and NBA success? But that makes my argument bad and yours okay?
No, I said there's zero evidence that he's going to be a 'net negative defender' as YOU put it, and used DRTG and rim protection as part of my case, which you just brushed off because they don't conform to your ridiculous conclusion.
So, we have a guy with elite length and size, who's mobile and can turn/flip his hips, a good athlete, who's been an ELITE defender in both college and HS...and yet you're sitting here saying he doesn't even project to be an average defender at the next level. It's complete and utter nonsense. You're just wrong.
I don't know where you get this notion that strength is only useful for 1v1 post defense because it is not, its an essential component of rim protection, rebounding and even PnR defense.
Rim protection and rebounding is much more about length, bounce and timing that they are about strength. Not saying strength doesn't play a role, but it's secondary to the aforementioned, of which Bol has in spades across the board. It's why again, he was an elite rim protector and rebounder at every level he's played in so far.
because he's got a poor defensive IQ and subpar mobility/strength and will get exposed both outside and inside the paint.
Except this is where ur wrong. There's nothing to suggest he has poor defensive IQ. Literally nothing. He rotates efficiently, displays great timing in rim protection and rebounding and is plenty mobile enough laterally to get to where he needs to go. I showed numerous examples of this earlier you're more than welcome to actually read the thread.
I have shown examples of his failure to cover ground quickly, move well or make the right rotation but we are going to ignore those in favor of yours?
Are you acting like I haven't been literally posting film of him this entire thread? Did you miss the last 5 pages?
Do you think him having a huge physical advantage like being 7'2 would have something to do with being a dominant defender in HS and college?
Of course that plays a part. Are we supposed to assume that it's not going to translate because you say so?
Has a prospect ever failed to translate into the league after dominating lower levels with physical tools? Wouldnt that be crazy?
Sure, but if he fails it's not gonna be because he can't play defense. You're just wrong on this.