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Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2)

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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#3221 » by King Ken » Tue Apr 2, 2019 7:44 pm

CP War Hawks wrote:Draft day trade, the lesser 2019 1st: Garland for Bamba. Not as high on Mo like before but I believe he's still a good fit for us.

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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#3222 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Apr 4, 2019 2:20 pm

Could the Hawks be a dark horse Anthony Davis trade suitor for Pelicans?

A team that is not often mentioned but could make sense in an Anthony Davis trade is the Atlanta Hawks. What would it take for the New Orleans Pelicans to entertain an offer from them?

a team that is not yet on anyone’s radar that could feasibly jump into the mix is the Atlanta Hawks.

The Hawks are a young team and have struggled once again this season because of it. They’re in twelfth place in the Eastern Conference and currently hold the most likely odds to select fifth overall in the 2019 NBA Draft. However, with some luck, the Hawks could easily put together a trade package worthy of tempting the Pelicans into pulling the trigger on a deal. If the Atlanta Hawks end up securing the top pick in the NBA Draft Lottery, look for them to shoot to the top of the list for potential Anthony Davis trade partners.

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The Hawks have two very exciting young assets in possible Rookie of the Year Trae Young and John Collins that they absolutely would not want to move in a trade. Instead, they’d part with their #1 pick in order to put together an incredibly dynamic and exciting roster featuring AD, Young, and Collins, which surely could make some serious noise in the Eastern Conference next season. Atlanta is a big market that might actually have a pretty good chance of re-signing Anthony Davis if 2019-2020 goes well for the organization.

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The two players the Pelicans return here are young and can shoot the lights out, which are types of guys you can never have too many of. Taurean Prince is a Swiss Army Knife-type wing that has shot an awesome 39% from three point range and over 13 points per game in the last two seasons. He’s only 25 and will keep improving.

The other piece here, Kevin Huerter, is a 20 year old rookie that’s already shooting about 38% himself from deep, which is a great percentage for someone in his first year in the NBA. Both of these players could step up and put points on the board in bunches given the right opportunities, and New Orleans will have plenty of playing time to go around.

However, the main attraction in this trade package is clearly Zion Williamson, who is the guaranteed top pick in the 2019 NBA Draft. Unless you live under a rock that’s under a bigger rock that’s under a bigger rock, you know that Zion is widely touted as the next big thing to come into the league. If the Pelicans can turn this Anthony Davis fiasco in to the deal that landed them Zion Williamson, it could benefit the franchise for the next decade.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#3223 » by Nathan2331 » Fri Apr 5, 2019 3:41 am

It doesn't make any sense for the Hawks to trade for Anthony Davis. If we could realistically convince him to resign in Atlanta, we might as well wait a year to sign him in free agency and keep whatever assets the Pelicans would ask for. KD + AD.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#3224 » by Night Traen » Fri Apr 5, 2019 4:53 am

Nathan2331 wrote:It doesn't make any sense for the Hawks to trade for Anthony Davis. If we could realistically convince him to resign in Atlanta, we might as well wait a year to sign him in free agency and keep whatever assets the Pelicans would ask for. KD + AD.

Agreed. I have a single unibrow hair between my main eyebrows and I've begun to grow it out in hopes that we have team unibrow (Trae, AD, Me) in 2021. I'M ALL IN!

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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#3225 » by Geaux_Hawks » Sun Apr 7, 2019 6:27 pm

Nathan2331 wrote:It doesn't make any sense for the Hawks to trade for Anthony Davis. If we could realistically convince him to resign in Atlanta, we might as well wait a year to sign him in free agency and keep whatever assets the Pelicans would ask for. KD + AD.


I mean I agree, but you kinda leave the door open for Boston or someone else to walk in and offer him the same deal we could. Showing the commitment now by giving up on a potential generational talent in Zion, may impress AD enough to think if Atlanta is willing to give all of it's loyalty to him then maybe it's the place he needs to stay for a while with Trae and Collins as his running mate. Which is why I believe the article thinks we can easily re-sign later. Of course that could all backfire, and he leaves anyway, but you're hoping adding AD with Trae and Collins, plus whatever else we can acquire will satisfy AD to where he wouldn't want to leave as well.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#3226 » by Radioblacktive1 » Sun Apr 7, 2019 6:50 pm

Having Zion locked in and secure > hoping AD re-signs. I’m passing on that trade every time. Even if AD gives me his word he’ll re-sign, these players owe loyalty to no one.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#3227 » by Vol4ever » Sun Apr 7, 2019 11:11 pm

Not sure the Hawks would trade the #1 pick. They would select Zion imo.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#3228 » by graymule » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:27 am

:nonono:

NO! 1st round pick + Huerter? No way..

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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#3229 » by Ducklett » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:31 am

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CP War Hawks wrote:Draft day trade, the lesser 2019 1st: Garland for Bamba. Not as high on Mo like before but I believe he's still a good fit for us.

I want


Why would the Magic do this? The only player with more upside in this draft is Zion. He would go in the tier of Barrett and Morant in this extremely weak draft.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#3230 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:43 am

From Bleacher Report. This would essentially gut our team. I can't see us spending this much for anyone who can't consistently carry their team deep into the playoffs...or play defense.

Trades to Rescue NBA Superstars Who Missed the Playoffs

Karl-Anthony Towns Soars South

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Minnesota Timberwolves Get: John Collins, Kevin Huerter, Taurean Prince, 2019 first-round pick, 2019 first-round pick (via Dallas Mavericks)

Atlanta Hawks Get: Karl-Anthony Towns

More than likely, this only happens if Towns makes a trade request. In the wake of a 2018-19 season that saw him average 24.4 points, 12.4 rebounds and 3.4 assists on 40 percent shooting from deep, he's just too good to move unless no other options exist.

But hey, if Anthony Davis can request a trade shortly after making the playoffs, so could Towns.

And anyway, stop fighting this hypothetical! Don't you want to see KAT and Trae Young confound opposing defenses for the next several years? Towns is the most dynamic offensive big man in the league, and he'd pair with Young in an unguardable pick-and-pop combination. Just as importantly, the attention Towns would draw in isolation and on the block would free Young to sprint around off the ball. Defenses would have to pay full attention to both, which would basically be impossible.

Obviously, the Hawks have to surrender a mint to get their superstar. And it's tough to imagine Atlanta short-circuiting its deliberate rebuild this early; it'd feel like skipping several important steps.

But...who cares?

We (and the Hawks) get KAT and Young together for at least a half-decade. They'd be a top-five offense with a couple of shooters on the wing, and maybe the pairing would open the floodgates for free agents. Who wouldn't want to play with these guys?

Meanwhile, Towns escapes the cold, a franchise with a long history of losing and Andrew Wiggins. It's hard to top that.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#3231 » by King Ken » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:57 am

That sounds like an amazing bail out plan for Minnesota. Doesn't sound good at all for us. Easy pass. I wouldn't make that offer for AD with years much less KAT. Drop Collins and Kevin and I'll more than consider
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#3232 » by jayu70 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:08 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:From Bleacher Report. This would essentially gut our team. I can't see us spending this much for anyone who can't consistently carry their team deep into the playoffs...or play defense.

Trades to Rescue NBA Superstars Who Missed the Playoffs

Karl-Anthony Towns Soars South

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Minnesota Timberwolves Get: John Collins, Kevin Huerter, Taurean Prince, 2019 first-round pick, 2019 first-round pick (via Dallas Mavericks)

Atlanta Hawks Get: Karl-Anthony Towns

More than likely, this only happens if Towns makes a trade request. In the wake of a 2018-19 season that saw him average 24.4 points, 12.4 rebounds and 3.4 assists on 40 percent shooting from deep, he's just too good to move unless no other options exist.

But hey, if Anthony Davis can request a trade shortly after making the playoffs, so could Towns.

And anyway, stop fighting this hypothetical! Don't you want to see KAT and Trae Young confound opposing defenses for the next several years? Towns is the most dynamic offensive big man in the league, and he'd pair with Young in an unguardable pick-and-pop combination. Just as importantly, the attention Towns would draw in isolation and on the block would free Young to sprint around off the ball. Defenses would have to pay full attention to both, which would basically be impossible.

Obviously, the Hawks have to surrender a mint to get their superstar. And it's tough to imagine Atlanta short-circuiting its deliberate rebuild this early; it'd feel like skipping several important steps.

But...who cares?

We (and the Hawks) get KAT and Young together for at least a half-decade. They'd be a top-five offense with a couple of shooters on the wing, and maybe the pairing would open the floodgates for free agents. Who wouldn't want to play with these guys?

Meanwhile, Towns escapes the cold, a franchise with a long history of losing and Andrew Wiggins. It's hard to top that.

That's gross. This trade not only takes the contents of the vault but also the vault.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#3233 » by kg01 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:17 pm

jayu70 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:From Bleacher Report. This would essentially gut our team. I can't see us spending this much for anyone who can't consistently carry their team deep into the playoffs...or play defense.

Trades to Rescue NBA Superstars Who Missed the Playoffs

Karl-Anthony Towns Soars South

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Minnesota Timberwolves Get: John Collins, Kevin Huerter, Taurean Prince, 2019 first-round pick, 2019 first-round pick (via Dallas Mavericks)

Atlanta Hawks Get: Karl-Anthony Towns

More than likely, this only happens if Towns makes a trade request. In the wake of a 2018-19 season that saw him average 24.4 points, 12.4 rebounds and 3.4 assists on 40 percent shooting from deep, he's just too good to move unless no other options exist.

But hey, if Anthony Davis can request a trade shortly after making the playoffs, so could Towns.

And anyway, stop fighting this hypothetical! Don't you want to see KAT and Trae Young confound opposing defenses for the next several years? Towns is the most dynamic offensive big man in the league, and he'd pair with Young in an unguardable pick-and-pop combination. Just as importantly, the attention Towns would draw in isolation and on the block would free Young to sprint around off the ball. Defenses would have to pay full attention to both, which would basically be impossible.

Obviously, the Hawks have to surrender a mint to get their superstar. And it's tough to imagine Atlanta short-circuiting its deliberate rebuild this early; it'd feel like skipping several important steps.

But...who cares?

We (and the Hawks) get KAT and Young together for at least a half-decade. They'd be a top-five offense with a couple of shooters on the wing, and maybe the pairing would open the floodgates for free agents. Who wouldn't want to play with these guys?

Meanwhile, Towns escapes the cold, a franchise with a long history of losing and Andrew Wiggins. It's hard to top that.

That's gross. This trade not only takes the contents of the vault but also the vault.


That's an offensive over-valuing of Towns. Completely offensive.

Are people under the impression that MIN is without talent? I get Wiggins is flaky but that team has more than enough raw talent to be far better than they are. So why do they underachieve? KittyKAT. That's why.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#3234 » by jayu70 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:21 pm

If OKC flames out in the playoffs and Paul George is made available:
Should the Hawks be interested.
what is the Hawks offer?
Bazemore, Prince + Dallas 1st?

PG is on the books for 2 more years after this year at $33 and $35 mil/per. He'll be 28 in May.
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Post#3235 » by Spud2nique » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:34 am

The KAT’s and PG13’s don’t fit our timeline. I say we continue to grow organically and not limit the potential of our own three main guys in Trae, JC and Huerter. They deserve another year free of big free agent or trade target talk imo.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#3236 » by HMFFL » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:15 am

jayu70 wrote:If OKC flames out in the playoffs and Paul George is made available:
Should the Hawks be interested.
what is the Hawks offer?
Bazemore, Prince + Dallas 1st?

PG is on the books for 2 more years after this year at $33 and $35 mil/per. He'll be 28 in May.
Good luck to OKC getting talent to sign with them if they have any available cap space. Not all star talent like Paul George is willing to do what he did. OKC will stay loyal to him but what a tax to pay if they get kicked out of the first round.



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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#3237 » by King Ken » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:40 am

OKC is not trading PG13
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Post#3238 » by TGW » Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:23 pm

Would the Hawks be interested in Beal and Howard (he's cap filler--ultimately waived)?

I'd ask for Bazemore, Plumlee, #5, #9, 2020 Hawks #1 (top 5 protection).
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#3239 » by King Ken » Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:51 pm

TGW wrote:Would the Hawks be interested in Beal and Howard (he's cap filler--ultimately waived)?

I'd ask for Bazemore, Plumlee, #5, #9, 2020 Hawks #1 (top 5 protection).

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Now this is actually a trade I would do for KAT. 100% but not for **** Bradley Beal. Honestly, we aren't interested in unless it's a discount deal. Something like CLE pick, top 5 protected pick 2020 and Huerter and even then, I'll still say no but that's the value I see. Two 1sts, and a young stud for Beal is reasonable. Anything else is crazy. Not trading a lottery pick for Beal. Maybe you should offer this to the Pelicans. They would do it.

I dont see them turning down trading a lottery pick, a 2020 pick and even taken on Ian M. For Beal.
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2) 

Post#3240 » by TGW » Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:06 pm

King Ken wrote:
TGW wrote:Would the Hawks be interested in Beal and Howard (he's cap filler--ultimately waived)?

I'd ask for Bazemore, Plumlee, #5, #9, 2020 Hawks #1 (top 5 protection).

:o
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Now this is actually a trade I would do for KAT. 100% but not for **** Bradley Beal. Honestly, we aren't interested in unless it's a discount deal. Something like CLE pick, top 5 protected pick 2020 and Huerter and even then, I'll still say no but that's the value I see. Two 1sts, and a young stud for Beal is reasonable. Anything else is crazy. Not trading a lottery pick for Beal. Maybe you should offer this to the Pelicans. They would do it.

I dont see them turning down trading a lottery pick, a 2020 pick and even taken on Ian M. For Beal.


Ok thanks. And no chance on the counteroffer.
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